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Other Resources => Component Deals & Selection => Topic started by: Eddy_Twerckx on March 21, 2023, 11:10:46 AM
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Has anybody tried any of the AliE 3D printed saddles? A little expensive to buy on a whim to try, especially the one below that's around $170. But still way cheaper than Specialized or Fizik offerings. Curious how they feel.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251801838650371.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.2.764dd1d1E0mN72&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=173b63c5-2e3e-496b-a218-9846da688e91&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.291025.0%2Cpvid%3A173b63c5-2e3e-496b-a218-9846da688e91%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238110%231995&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000031142544848%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%223339%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%21331.37%21155.74%21%21%21%21%21%40210312f816794148360546279e6755%2112000031142544848%21rec%21US%211815174450&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US
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I personally don't like riding on a plastic surface. There are several under 200 gram carbon saddles that have some small padding and real leather on top.
I would only want to ride on a saddle like this in good weather. If there is any road grit or mud around it will fill up all those tine holes. Yuck!
My 2 cents worth...
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If there is any road grit or mud around it will fill up all those tine holes. Yuck!
My 2 cents worth...
Thats actually a very good point that I didn't realize earlier.
Also for a full carbon the weight seems a lot? I bought one of those carbon+cushion saddles that weighs about 127 grams. It is rather comfortable and does not feel like its superlight carbon saddle while riding. My experience is of course anecdotal, but it really turned out to be one of those excellent Aliexpress finds. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804373322850.html
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got this Ryet Aircode 3D (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004854849804.html) for 1wk, it's too soon to say anything but initial impressions are good. The brand got me wishing to risk it, because other 3d saddles offering in Aliexpress don't look that trustworthy, this at least got 1yr warranty (at least it says it does...)
I was using a Mixed 5D (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004591371306.html) for bit over 1yr and was really good for a long time, until it wasn't anymore (last 2 months or so), think the padding lost resistance overtime
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From a ventilation standpoint these 3D printed matrixes make a lot of sense. From a cushioning / load bearing standpoint I think they make very little - the kind of foam being used on SQ Labs' new 'Infinergy' models is going to be way better at cushioning and load spreading than any of these 3D prints ever will be. Modern gels likewise. But if you get soreness due to a soaked chammy then they could be what you're looking for.
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Has anybody tried any of the AliE 3D printed saddles? A little expensive to buy on a whim to try, especially the one below that's around $170. But still way cheaper than Specialized or Fizik offerings. Curious how they feel.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251801838650371.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.2.764dd1d1E0mN72&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=173b63c5-2e3e-496b-a218-9846da688e91&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.291025.0%2Cpvid%3A173b63c5-2e3e-496b-a218-9846da688e91%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238110%231995&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000031142544848%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%223339%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%21331.37%21155.74%21%21%21%21%21%40210312f816794148360546279e6755%2112000031142544848%21rec%21US%211815174450&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US
So I tried the saddle from WestBiking and just didn’t get along with it. The fat part sits a little more rearward than my Power saddles, so I couldn’t get it in the right spot. It was too far back. And my VB 168 frame doesn’t have a zero setback option. I also tried a Romin Mirror and had the same issue with positioning. So it’s now sitting in the garage if anybody wants to buy it at a super discount. Tempted by the Ryet but 150 might be too wide.
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Saddles seem more like a personal thing. Some shapes and materials work for some, but might not work for others. For the price though, I think the Lexon/Ryet 3D saddles are a good price to try them out. At least from a build POV, the carbon shell and rails are a step up from some of the cheaper carbon saddles. Also bike geometry does affect the fit from my experience using the same saddle, but different bike. If you don't like it, sell it or gift it to someone!
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The Ryet has worked well for me so far approx 200km. Doing a 12hr ride soon so will see how it holds up.
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Saddles seem more like a personal thing. Some shapes and materials work for some, but might not work for others. For the price though, I think the Lexon/Ryet 3D saddles are a good price to try them out. At least from a build POV, the carbon shell and rails are a step up from some of the cheaper carbon saddles. Also bike geometry does affect the fit from my experience using the same saddle, but different bike. If you don't like it, sell it or gift it to someone!
Oh for sure. The Power Mirror is my all time favorite saddle. But it’s pricey. So I was hoping to finding a cheaper replacement. But the issues with both the WestBiking and Romin Mirror make me think it’s the shape (they’re similar) rather than anything else. There is a Power Mirror copy on AliEx that looks promising. I may just give it a try.
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So I tried the saddle from WestBiking and just didn’t get along with it. The fat part sits a little more rearward than my Power saddles, so I couldn’t get it in the right spot. It was too far back. And my VB 168 frame doesn’t have a zero setback option. I also tried a Romin Mirror and had the same issue with positioning. So it’s now sitting in the garage if anybody wants to buy it at a super discount. Tempted by the Ryet but 150 might be too wide.
I'm having the same problem. I have to put my saddle all the way forward on my bikes if there is no 0-setback seatpost option. And the carbon saddle all have very short rails that makes it impossible to slide them forward enough...
I have been thinking about using autocad and side view pictures to compare saddles to the one I have that does work :D
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There's a 3d printed carbon saddle on AliX trending at 50USD shipped to Europe. The metal one is 30-40 from memory.
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got this Ryet Aircode 3D (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004854849804.html) for 1wk, it's too soon to say anything but initial impressions are good. The brand got me wishing to risk it, because other 3d saddles offering in Aliexpress don't look that trustworthy, this at least got 1yr warranty (at least it says it does...)
I was using a Mixed 5D (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004591371306.html) for bit over 1yr and was really good for a long time, until it wasn't anymore (last 2 months or so), think the padding lost resistance overtime
That Ryet Aircode is really good. Did 100km on my very stiff hardtail mtb with it last sunday and it was way more comfortable than the Fizik Antares R1 Versus Evo it replaced. It builds quite far forward though, I'm running it pushed all the way back on it's rails.
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I rode my two bikes this week, one with a Ryet 3D printed carbon saddle and the other with a regular carbon padded saddle. It's been about 95 degrees (35 celsius) where I live so it's been quite hot. The regular carbon saddle in the beginning is more comfortable to sit on, but after an hour into the ride it gets less comfortable, you notice more friction as you move on the saddle and the padded material heats up from the sun making it quite hot. The 3D saddle feels less comfortable in the beginning, but the longer you ride the more your sit bone begins to adapt. Also the sun doesn't heat up the saddle as you're sitting, keeping your posterior quite cool.
I think I'm beginning to lean towards 3D printed saddles as the go-to saddle. Besides the slight weight penalty, at least for the conditions I ride in, the benefits outweigh the cons.
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Anyone tried this one? I like the dimensions and that is is fairly flat, I don't like saddles like specislized power as they push me too much of the saddle to thw front. Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! 280,70zł 51%OFF | RYET Carbon 3D Printed Saddle Ultralight Bicycle Seating Cushion For Men Women Saddles Road MTB Mountain Gravel Cycling Parts
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EvT0UFh
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Anyone tried this one? I like the dimensions and that is is fairly flat, I don't like saddles like specislized power as they push me too much of the saddle to thw front. Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! 280,70zł 51%OFF | RYET Carbon 3D Printed Saddle Ultralight Bicycle Seating Cushion For Men Women Saddles Road MTB Mountain Gravel Cycling Parts
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EvT0UFh
I have that one on order. I'll report back once I receive and install it.
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I just received this newer 3D printed saddle from the Lexon store. First impressions is that it's a slightly more refined version of the original Ryet/Lexon 3D saddle they first had on sale. Edges are more round, saddle length is a bit longer, the 3D mesh material is both softer and has more coverage around the the carbon fiber shell. The rails and saddle shell are sturdy. I've opted to put this saddle on my gravel bike. I'll report back on comfort once I've had a chance to do a ride.
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S60977c4c3913495898432d7667667033O.jpg)
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Some photos of this particular 150g Ryet / Carbon Works saddle.
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It seems like there are 3 new Ryet saddles in total: T50 that is seen in the photos above, X6 and X7p. Not a fan of how X7p looks like, starts out nice and narrow, but then goes full triangle mode and gets real wide real fast. T50 looks nice and solid all around, although the pressure relief channel is bit narrow. X6 has similar shape to T50, but has wider relief channel and different looking mesh (not sure how it affects comfort). I kinda want to buy X6, but gotta see how comfortable is that different looking mesh. One interesting point across all three saddles is that they are advertising 1cm extra rail length.
T50: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005843482948.html
X6: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005871294163.html
X7p: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005871242590.html
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Anyone tried this one? I like the dimensions and that is is fairly flat, I don't like saddles like specislized power as they push me too much of the saddle to thw front. Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! 280,70zł 51%OFF | RYET Carbon 3D Printed Saddle Ultralight Bicycle Seating Cushion For Men Women Saddles Road MTB Mountain Gravel Cycling Parts
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EvT0UFh
I have this saddle. I just wanted to try out the 3D printed saddle game and ordered this one as it looked cool, it's very lightweight and the price is good. It weighs 147g on my scale. Very nice build quality and it looks like it cost much more than $50. They definitely feel different, it takes some getting used to and I still feel myself readjusting a lot during the ride. Only a couple rides so far (~40 miles) but I think my ass likes my Velobuild SMP copy better. Time will tell, I'll keep riding it for a bit for sure.
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This week where I live, we were hitting 37-38c temps (100 degrees) and the benefits of 3D saddles in the heat makes a huge difference. I can't go back to a standard saddle now, because you can literally feel your ass heat up, as if it were an egg on a pan. 3D printed saddles in direct heat have a big advantage in that they just stay cool. If I lived anywhere near the 36th parallel, I would highly recommend going with 3D printed saddles, especially with the prices and options available through AliEx.
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I'll report back on comfort once I've had a chance to do a ride.
How is the saddle doing mate?
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How is the saddle doing mate?
Today I did about 33 miles /53 km on my gravel bike w/the T50 saddle on mixed surface conditions. I like it better than the original Ryet 3D mesh saddle they first had on sale. It's still a bit stiff as far as carbon saddles go, but it wasn't uncomfortable. The rounder profile, slightly wider mesh coverage and softer cushioning were all noticeable on the ride. I also like the slightly narrower and longer shape.
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Just got my RYET "Aircode" (who tf named this thing?) in the mail.
The level of comfort was almost a religious experience.
That being said the only saddle I've ridden on before was a raw carbon non-padded one
Somehow i've managed to complete gran fondos before on it just fine, but never occurred to me that I probably shouldn't have felt every hairline crack on the road through my spine hahaha.
So take my review with a grain of salt :D
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Do these let water through and avoid the misery of riding with a wet saddle?
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I got the Power Mirror clone mounted and did a few rides. It’s not great. It looks exactly like the Power Mirror and shares the same dimensions, but they got the firmness completely wrong. The actual Power Mirror is firm in the back where the sit bones are and softer up front near “the goods.” This one is switched. The back area has the density of a used sponge and is basically useless. Meanwhile the front 3D material is rock hard and doesn’t cushion at all. So you sink in at the rear and it almost angles up to the front. Not to mention the rails are oddly placed and the entire saddle angles up towards the front pretty aggressively. It was difficult to even get a flat saddle angle. All in all it’s a for sure loser in my book.
I’d avoid for sure.
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Do these let water through and avoid the misery of riding with a wet saddle?
I don't ride in the rain, but I was able to use a blower and vacuum to get random stuff that got stuck in the mesh. Though I don't think it'd be a good idea to cake it with mud, lay it in dog poop or stick a piece of used gum in there!
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It seems like there are 3 new Ryet saddles in total: T50 that is seen in the photos above, X6 and X7p. Not a fan of how X7p looks like, starts out nice and narrow, but then goes full triangle mode and gets real wide real fast. T50 looks nice and solid all around, although the pressure relief channel is bit narrow. X6 has similar shape to T50, but has wider relief channel and different looking mesh (not sure how it affects comfort). I kinda want to buy X6, but gotta see how comfortable is that different looking mesh. One interesting point across all three saddles is that they are advertising 1cm extra rail length.
T50: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005843482948.html
X6: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005871294163.html
X7p: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005871242590.html
I just received the X6 saddle and WOW. That's the best saddle I've ever used. It is super comfortable, it is almost flat and the length is great sitting in between short 24cm and long 28cm saddles. Just perfect for me.
I don't know what is the exact difference between the T50 but from what I assume the X6 has to be more comfortable with thicker padding. Because it weight 20g more and the only thing that is different is the 3d mesh. The base is the same.
Also when You look to the description it say road/mtb in the usage section, opposed to only road in the T50.
Based on this I think X6 is more comfortable. Tbh when I ordered I did not even notice that those 2 differ. I am using X6 for my road bike, but I think I will order one for my gravel bike asweel. I am a little tempted to try the T50, but on the other hand why choose other one if this one is so good. Especially that I have a collection of saddles I don't use in my closet and don't need more. And those aliexpress saddles are rather hard to sell, like ie the ryet premium superlight saddle which was just to hard for me.
Edit: after few longer rides I gotta change my opinion on the saddle. The padding on longer rides starts to hurt and rubs te contact points which causes pain :/
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Got the 155 Specialized Power Pro Mirror clone off Ali for $90 shipped.
Looks very similar, difference is carbon rails on the Ali one vs Ti from Spesh. Ali version is lighter.
Need to install it and get feedback from wife…
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Edit: after few longer rides I gotta change my opinion on the saddle. The padding on longer rides starts to hurt and rubs te contact points which causes pain :/
That's what I found with the ryet aircode as well.
Now I'm looking for something more like the Specialized Romin Mirror in 140mm-143mm width.
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That's what I found with the ryet aircode as well.
Now I'm looking for something more like the Specialized Romin Mirror in 140mm-143mm width.
I think the only legit Chinese 3d printed saddles are the ones from West Biking. But they're not cheap.
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Edited to say the saddle has been sold.
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I’ll delete this if it’s not allowed, but I have a West Biking one that I’ll sell for like $50 if anybody is interested. I can only ship within the US though. Nothing wrong with it but I just couldn’t get the positioning to work with my seatpost setback. I’d need a zero offset post to get my position and the Velobuild 168 frame doesn’t have the option. The actual 3D material feels very similar to the Mirror saddles. Wish it could have worked but the wide part where my sit bones would be is just too rearward and I couldn’t push it forward enough.
(https://i.imgur.com/hsAnxMeh.jpg)
You can see I tried slamming it all the way forward but it was still too far back for my taste.
(https://i.imgur.com/LUnnkfvh.jpg)
I have sent you a PM about the saddle. I've been in the market for a couple of parts I am building a super highend Trek Domane SLR and I think that one of these saddles would bring the build together nicely.
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Bringing this one back.
What is the current thoughts from folks who have had a few of the Ali 3D printed saddles on their bikes for a bit? I see West Biking and they look nice, but too close to the 'brandname' models in pricing if you ask me.
What about the Ryet? Which one do folks like? I want a more narrow saddle (140-143) and Ryet seems to fit the bill there. Is it actually more comfortable than some of the 'better' cheap Ali carbon models (that just have EVA foam)?
What about any of the other sub $100 models?
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I’ve seen a few YouTube videos about the Power Mirror copy but I would avoid it. It looks pretty similar to the Power Mirror but is super low quality in my experience. The padding density is all backwards and the nose of the saddle is hard as a rock. The rear density is super soft and you sink in to the carbon plate. The rails are also at a really weird angle and very hard to setup on a two bolt top clamping system. I lasted about ten minutes on it before giving up.
The Ryet seems to get good reviews on here. Though I have not tried it myself.
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What about the Ryet? Which one do folks like? I want a more narrow saddle (140-143) and Ryet seems to fit the bill there. Is it actually more comfortable than some of the 'better' cheap Ali carbon models (that just have EVA foam)?
I bought 3 of the Ryet ones a couple days ago, hoping they work out! The reviews were outstanding...
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This RIRO 3d printed saddle has recently caught my attention. The honeycomb structure looks to be more robust than the Ryet/Lexon saddles available. I'd give it a try, but I already have too many saddles laying around.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806112680792.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806112680792.html)
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S910addbe6e0f4441902c19e5be5c8ab76.jpg)
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Anybody know if the firmness levels in the Aliexpress saddles are the same. I love the shape/look of my Ryet, but starting to desire something more firm.
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Anybody know if the firmness levels in the Aliexpress saddles are the same. I love the shape/look of my Ryet, but starting to desire something more firm.
That one is firm enough, i'd say. Which means nothing ofc, other than i dont wish it were firmer. It's a racework and says T150 on the rear edge.
W shipping to the EU, i've ended up paying 60$ for it. I bought 2, so i have one for sale if someone's interested, i like it, but i'm not blown away.
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This RIRO 3d printed saddle has recently caught my attention. The honeycomb structure looks to be more robust than the Ryet/Lexon saddles available. I'd give it a try, but I already have too many saddles laying around.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806112680792.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806112680792.html)
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S910addbe6e0f4441902c19e5be5c8ab76.jpg)
Got this one and it’s firm in the back, softer in the front in summary.
For my liking, it’s still a bit hard in the back, but that might be due to my weight 68kg
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I've had the RYET Air Code with the carbon base for 8 months now, for me it's the most comfortable saddle I've ever had. I love it. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805023659024.html after 8 months it is a bit dusty inside the holes, I need to give it a spray or something.
I thought since I loved their Air Code so much that I'd try their other 3D saddle https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805830654849.html I don't like this one, doesn't fit me at all.
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I've had the RYET Air Code with the carbon base for 8 months now, for me it's the most comfortable saddle I've ever had. I love it. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805023659024.html after 8 months it is a bit dusty inside the holes, I need to give it a spray or something.
I thought since I loved their Air Code so much that I'd try their other 3D saddle https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805830654849.html I don't like this one, doesn't fit me at all.
what is the width between your sit bones? the one you have is 150mm wide and the one you don't like is 140 wide. Most likely its to narrow for your particular Anatomy
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I‘ve got a ryet: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EvGWV3X
Going to sell it again as it‘s killing my bib shorts :(
Its super comfy but I need something narrow or closed cells on the edges.
Damage was done after 1 ride, 100km on my gravel bike.
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I‘ve got a ryet: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EvGWV3X
Going to sell it again as it‘s killing my bib shorts :(
Its spurt comfy but I need something narrow or closed cells on the edges.
Yikes, I was worried that would be the case. I’m waiting for mine
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Im afraid I can report the same issue but nowhere as problematic as shown above
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interesting, i have a RYET one (not the one picture) and i haven't noticed any issues with wear.
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hmm
I have two Ryet 3D saddles, an Aircode (pro stealth) with 11mo and >6.000km on my road bike
and the same model you linked, on my mtb with ~30hrs on it
I've not experienced this kind of wear on the bib fabric, even riding long hours and moving/changing position when riding, especially on the mtb
so I'd suggest to look at stuff other than the saddle itself
maybe bikefit adjustment? too much movement on the saddle is usually some positioning adjustment, for example you start sliding down and have to constantly move your butt back
or the bib is a bit older and the fabric is not that much resistant anymore
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I think it’s more about Q factor and how your leg movement is spaced. When my legs go straight down, they ever so slightly touch the saddle nose where the bib wear appears. The riyet 3d saddles are wider than many non 3d saddles at the nose, that’s a fact. Whether it’s an issue or not could depend on your frame essentially and Q factor I guess
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Its the first time happening to me.
The bib is quite expensive, as its a 7mesh. They are aware of the problem and suggest a short on top. Luckily they replace it, at least once.
Tomorrow I go for another spin and try some different position on the bike.
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I noticed the front being slightly more wide, this seams to be the case with most short nose saddles. Did two indoor zwift trainings on mine no miracle saddle but atleast it’s a better than my previous saddle so that’s some progress
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The wear is also visible on other bib pants but not as bad as on the 7mesh.
Got a replacement one from them, and changed the saddle to another ryet with a lot more smooth surface structure.
Should do the job
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I just received my Ryet saddle. It just came wrapped in a plastic bag without any further instructions.
What is the recommended torque for the seatpost clamps?