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Other Resources => Component Deals & Selection => Topic started by: RDY on September 21, 2023, 07:23:26 AM
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Saw this posted at WWs - https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&p=1829140#p1829140
https://www.lewisbike.com/product/disc-brakes.html
Anyone got any intel? Was inevitable that some Chinese clones appeared. Given the selling price, they're hopefully decent quality.
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They look really good for sure!
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the weight they listed doesn't include brake hoses which are about 70g
still a super light brake
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They look really nice but i keep hearing that they are rebadged clones of brakes that have been out for awhile. Some say they are indeed different.. Regardless the silver option looks really great
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They look really nice but i keep hearing that they are rebadged clones of brakes that have been out for awhile. Some say they are indeed different.. Regardless the silver option looks really great
I hadn't seen any relatively legit looking TS clones before. Which ones are you referring to?
I do vaguely remember seeing some really bad knockoffs (including TS branding) a couple of years ago, but I think they disappeared.
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I will order some tonight and see what they're like and report back on their weight and performance. The hose looks like a shimano BH90 so easily replaceable if a problem occurs and there are some lighter options on the market too (provided they use this hose).
I shall be going for 2-piston in silver. Thought I'd add that since they look sexy.
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I'm very interested in these. I sent a message asking if they had carbon levers available or in development.
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I will order some tonight and see what they're like and report back on their weight and performance.
I'm kind of excited to hear. Pls share your experience on the ordering process as well (If you know: Can you only order via their website? Additional shipping cost? Do the offer a shipping method with included no-hassle customs handling? Stuff like that ...)
Also, just in case, do you have experience with the actual Piccola brake to compare with?
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I'm kind of excited to hear. Pls share your experience on the ordering process as well (If you know: Can you only order via their website? Additional shipping cost? Do the offer a shipping method with included no-hassle customs handling? Stuff like that ...)
Also, just in case, do you have experience with the actual Piccola brake to compare with?
I run a bike shop and have bled multiple trickstuff brakes and ridden bikes with them. Never owned a set because their price tag is very high but i do like their look and feel, braking on the Piccola is brutal on the 4-pot calliper but I want to get the 2-pot Lewis Brake so expect a drop in performance. For my needs, 2 pot is perfectly adequate and 4-pot would be overkill.
I've sent two emails to Lewis Bike and not heard anything so my plan of ordering did not go ahead. Their website is very basic and i think the website form doesn't send them a message. I have emailed them direct too but still nothing.
I want to find out if they have carbon levers too, what pads they actually use so I can get more locally and what the brake hose is so I can possibly change it. Right now, no more progress on these :(
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They did just reply after a quick follow up and said:
Thanks for your message. We have a distritutor in UK now and could you contact them about the brakes?
Submission Cycles
36 Victoria Street Grimsby DN31 1DG United Kingdom
Email:
submissioncycles@gmail.com
Tel:
+44 01472 472246
Website:
www.submissioncycles.com
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Looks really professional. A website that does not work and a gmail account... :-\
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I received this reply:
Hi,
We are very sorry for the late reply to you.
Our brakes are CNC machined from aluminum.There are currently no carbon brake levers.
The quality of our brakes is very good, you can buy a set of samples for testing first.
If you are interested, please feel free to contact us.
We look forward to your reply.
Lewis Bike
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I asked about pad style/material and shipping cost for a set of LV2 in silver to the US. Let's see what happens. I hate to be the guinea pig on this one, but perhaps I'll bit the bullet for you guys. ;D
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They responded to say that the pads are metallic and this is the shape (see attached image). I don't know off hand what style pad that is.
The price is $265 shipped to me in the US. They wanted to know if I wanted to be a vendor for them (not at this time).
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I asked to order a set but I don't think they'll be able to until that UK distributor is up and running. Maybe they can...lets see.
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They responded to say that the pads are metallic and this is the shape (see attached image). I don't know off hand what style pad that is.
The price is $265 shipped to me in the US. They wanted to know if I wanted to be a vendor for them (not at this time).
At that price I would have to have a real hard think about these. Shimano brakes work so well and while these are light they are not so much lighter than say an xt brake.
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At that price I would have to have a real hard think about these. Shimano brakes work so well and while these are light they are not so much lighter than say an xt brake.
XT F&R set is 574g at ~$225-250
LV2 F&R set is 413g at $265
So ~30% lighter at 10% higher cost. Seems promising if they can actually perform. And XT/XTR is a high bar to reach in terms of braking performance and, more importantly, reliability.
I have XT on all my bikes and love them. But I was recently toying with the idea of XTR or maybe even TS Piccolas (for no logical reason other than I want light and high performance) so these were compelling.
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XT F&R set is 574g at ~$225-250
LV2 F&R set is 413g at $265
So ~30% lighter at 10% higher cost. Seems promising if they can actually perform. And XT/XTR is a high bar to reach in terms of braking performance and, more importantly, reliability.
I have XT on all my bikes and love them. But I was recently toying with the idea of XTR or maybe even TS Piccolas (for no logical reason other than I want light and high performance) so these were compelling.
Agree with everything. It is just hard to put down that much on untested equipment. I had m9100's but switched back to 8100's due to the small pad on the 9100's. There is a definite loss of performance going to the smaller pad on the 9100's. I like that the LV2's seem to use a bigger more XT like pad.
Does anyone know if there is a US supplier or will they ship direct? I messaged them but no response yet.
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I did not know about the smaller pad on the XTRs. I rip through the XT pads faster than I would like (though not terrible); I would not like any faster than that.
It doesn't sound like they have a US distributor yet. And I agree, I don't like the idea of putting $265 down on untested equipment.
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My brakes are ready to ship…
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If you end up liking yours, I will order a set of the XC brakes.
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My brakes are ready to ship…
Any word? Did you get them?
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Hello there, this is literally my first post on this forum, but I'vei was a long time lurker; D. So... I actually own a pair of Lewis LV4 4 pistons (Piccola HD copy):D.
I actually got them from Taobao through SuberBuy (Taobao agent) to get them in France (yeah I'm French).
The whole thing took 16 days, 3 days from the seller (the Lewis company I believe) to SuberBuy's Guangdong warehouse and 13 days from them to my mailbox.
So the set costed me 256€ and Superbuy 36€ so less than 300€ in total ;D.
Now the brakes:
(https://i.postimg.cc/VN9dztZX/IMG-20231109-175457.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZ2m0zRH/IMG-20231109-175600.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1yXsBwr/IMG-20231109-181343.jpg)
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own a pair of Lewis LV4 4 pistons (piccolo HD copy)
They certainly look nice. Could you put the full set on a scale? According to Lewis' claims, they would be roughly 100 g heavier than a current set of PCA HDs (which seems an awful lot).
Did you have to take care of customs stuff or did the brakes arrive just like that?
Sidenote: When I asked Lewis for a quote some days ago, either the prices had gone up quite a bit or they just tell different people different prices willy-nilly (I was given a price (for buying directly from them) that they also list now as RRP on their website).
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Could you put the full set on a scale?
Did you have to take care of customs stuff or did the brakes arrive just like that?
My work place got a scale so I'll weight them there tomorrow ;D.
Did you have to take care of customs stuff or did the brakes arrive just like that?
Superbuy got a tax free shipping option so I didn't have to pay any tax (declared value of the package was $21). You can pay them to choose the right shipping line and options depending on what you want them to ship.
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I'm dying to know how these perform. I will order a set if you can confirm they're not complete junk from a performance standpoint.
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The more pics i see of these the more tempted I become but also want to know what they're like in the real world. You're pictures really make the all-silver set looks pretty tasty. Keep us posted and weights and performance!
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Could you put the full set on a scale? According to Lewis' claims, they would be roughly 100 g heavier than a current set of PCA HDs (which seems an awful lot).
I don't trust this scale, but the results are 251g for the rear and 234g for the front.
The brakes were shipped with a bleed block on each caliper, next time I'll weight them with the stock pads + screws.
The hose length is 90cm front and 165cm rear :).
(https://i.postimg.cc/vZMKnfYP/IMG-20231110-120419.jpg)
R2-bike's result for comparison:
(https://r2-bike.com/media/image/product/180683/lg/trickstuff-scheibenbremse-piccola-hd-carbon-post-mount-set~17.jpg)
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I'm dying to know how these perform.
The more pics i see of these the more tempted I become but also want to know what they're like in the real world. You're pictures really make the all-silver set looks pretty tasty. Keep us posted and weights and performance!
The levers feel amazing... My BL-M8100 levers still works perfectly, but now they feel like garbage in comparison :'(; D. No play in the lever blades either.
Only tried the front brake, but they're very direct, little to no progression.
With an allen key, you can also get the pads closer or further to the disk with the barrel adjuster inside the reach adjuster, and that's the main difference with the Piccola or any other brakes as far as i know.
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Didn't see it earlier but looks like now they also road calipers in standard flat mount format.
https://www.lewisbike.com/554.html
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I've been trying to buy a set of the road calipers since early October when i first saw photos of the samples.
The only thing to add is that their road calipers are shimano pad compatible. I should have more details when / if I am able to complete the purchase.
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I sent an enquiry regarding what barbs olives hoses these use, the reply
"the caliper doesn't include the hose, which can be used with our other brake hose. Outside Diameter 5mm, Bore 2.2mm.
The barbs and olives are our own specification, attached in package.
Yes, it can work with Shimano shifters."
I'm guessing they mean the newer generation of Shimano shifters with BH90 barbs.
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I see they are also promoting a pre-order Titanium 4-pot set: https://submissioncycles.com/products/titanium-4-pot-horizontal-lh4?pr_prod_strat=use_description&pr_rec_id=7d100eb58&pr_rec_pid=8757830484243&pr_ref_pid=8729863815443&pr_seq=uniform
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The levers feel amazing... My BL-M8100 levers still works perfectly, but now they feel like garbage in comparison :'(; D. No play in the lever blades either.
Only tried the front brake, but they're very direct, little to no progression.
With an allen key, you can also get the pads closer or further to the disk with the barrel adjuster inside the reach adjuster, and that's the main difference with the Piccola or any other brakes as far as i know.
Any further review on the set? I'm this | - | close to ordering the LV2.
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Any further review on the set? I'm this | - | close to ordering the LV2.
They are currently on my commuter bike and have been flawless so far. My only complain is that Lewis (and Trickstuff) doesn't make any I-Spec EV adapter (only Matchmaker) for the levers at the moment :'(...
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What brake pads do the LV2 (and LT4) use? I couldn't see it on the website.
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What brake pads do the LV2 (and LT4) use? I couldn't see it on the website.
They use SRAM's Level dual pistons caliper style of pads for the LV2, Hope's E4 pads style for the LH4 and the LV4 and Hope's V4 pads style for the LHT Ultimate.
On another note, my bike got stolen last weekend so i won't be able to give more updates to you guys about the LV4... I'm sorry :-\.
They were flawless last time i was able to used them, that's all i can say :'(.
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They use SRAM's Level dual pistons caliper style of pads for the LV2, Hope's E4 pads style for the LH4 and the LV4 and Hope's V4 pads style for the LHT Ultimate.
On another note, my bike got stolen last weekend so i won't be able to give more updates to you guys about the LV4... I'm sorry :-\.
They were flawless last time i was able to used them, that's all i can say :'(.
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Where are you guys buying these and are you in the US? I found a few UK stores but the prices seem to be much higher than what is listed on the Lewis website. I found an e-bike store selling them for $359, is that the going rate now? TYIA
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Where are you guys buying these and are you in the US? I found a few UK stores but the prices seem to be much higher than what is listed on the Lewis website. I found an e-bike store selling them for $359, is that the going rate now? TYIA
Inevitably the price will go up if you can't buy direct. Try giving them an email sales@lewisbike.com and see what they can do. When these first surfaced I was given a price to order them direct but now there is a UK distributor (Submission Cycles) but that doens't help you since you're in the US. :)