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Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
The specs say this frame uses a 165X40 mm shock at 122 mm of travel. Something is amiss here. 165X40 is about 105 mm of travel. Most of the 120 mm travel frames of this style use a 165X45 trunnion shock. I think you're getting it lost translation literally. The 122mm quoted is we assume the minimum compressed length of the shock, they call it stroke. So based on a 165 i2t this equates to a 42.5mm stroke. Ben is saying a 45mm looks feasible. So theoretically if 40mm shock strike equates to 100mm rear suspension travel then 45mm will equate to 112mm suspension travel. Tbh I was also confused by the 122mm stroke statement in the specs but Ben's explanation makes sense and I pretty sure Ican don't use professional translators, hence lost in translation 
April 22, 2021, 10:55:35 PM |
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Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
Looks great!! I'm playing around with the computer to check the geo with my changes....  Doesn't look too bad from the pictures but STA and HTA difficult to calculate properly. But think it should work nicely. April 23, 2021, 03:27:44 AM |
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Re: Stumpjumper clone
So, I finally after much back and forth bought this frame from AWST at the end of April and it arrived today in Muscat, Oman.  I got them to ship to Hong Kong (free) and from there via Aramex Shop and Ship to Oman for US$50 with no VAT or other taxes applied. RESULT Still waiting for the wheels though... Also, the service wasn't great. Even taking into account language barriers. Threats were made to recall the frame and charge double for shipping again etc. All because they failed to request an extension to the automated shipping date and a refund was processed. Ultimately, I could have gotten the frame for free as it had already shipped from Aramex by the time they raise the issue to me. They also missed their promised shipping date, 9 May, for everything by 10 days. I did pay again and the wheels are still not shipped but hey ho... So here are a couple of photos:    Overall, I'm pretty impressed with the build and the quality of the finish, with no imperfections, but, a little over run on the BB etc. It will be partially repainted to have a gloss black rear triangle and partial front triangle al a Specialized. I'm doing this locally as they wanted a small fortune for the dual colour. I'll weigh the frame and components tonight and post then. Frame is size L. Then once done I'll start assembling the bike. No rush as its 40C/104F outside now...  Cheers All Guy May 27, 2021, 03:50:40 AM |
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Re: Stumpjumper clone
So lots of people seem interested in the weight. As it stands the painted frame with everything removed (chain guide, derailleur hanger, seat post clamp, rear shock hardware etc) weighs in at 1990g for a large. Add those items back in and it reaches 2,315g. So spot on that quoted on Aliexpress. Now, I like a lighter bike but not at any cost. EG I not paying US$100s more to save 50g. However, I see 3 items where I can save some weight cheaply or for free. These is the huge headset compression 'plug' which I don't need and will replace with a star nut. I won't install the chain guide as I don't think I'll need it. And finally the seat post clamp which is huge. I recon between the 3 items I can shave off around 140g, or 6% of the frame weight. This will be offset by the down tube and chain stay protectors so pretty good. For the rest of the build I'm going largely with SRAM and RaceFace components. The major exceptions being the dropper post (eventually) which will be a 150mm job from One Components and possibly brakes which may be 2/4 pot options from Shimano. Target is weight 11.5kg and total cost including shipping of US$3,000 max. Let's see how that goes. Cheers Guy May 29, 2021, 02:50:23 AM |
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Re: Stumpjumper clone
Emu26, I paid over the odds tbh, it was AUD880 shipped to Oman without 10% GST. However MRSP in Europe is EUR549 which is approx. AUD870, however they were offering it online for AUD530 ex VAT but with a delivery date pushed from mid May to August 2021. The shop in Australia was called Cyclinic in QLD and retail price was AUD779 + GST, so AUD856.90 for local purchase. The problem is there are NO forks available here and European shops are not officially allowed to ship to Middle East directly for certain products like RockShox and Shimano, so I would have had to pay 20% VAT and shipping to get a fork here from Europe. For a similar price I could have got a RS Domain, but that weighs 2.3kg so 300g heavier. For less money a Judy 35. Fox forks are all priced at EUR900 ex VAT and I wasn't prepared to pay that. Another problem was availability as touched on above. Most shops have hardly any stock and don't honestly know when they'll get stock so for MTB parts it's a sellers market currently. Cheers Guy May 31, 2021, 11:35:29 PM |
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Re: Stumpjumper clone
So the day of reckoning has come... All the parts are here, except the wheels which should be ready to collect tomorrow. Unfortunately, here in Oman nobody wanted to touch the frame to paint it and I'm not prepared to give it a go and screw it up. So, I'm going to build it as it is and then look to getting it painted once I've moved to Germany. Here a couple of pics of the parts to hand. Will post the others once the wheels have arrived. For those interested in weight, I'll weigh all parts separately and then the whole bike once completed to give an approx measure for the the weight of incidentals like grease, tubeless liquid, tape etc.   I'll build the bike over the next week I guess as pretty busy at work and planning the move to Germany with the family. Will also be challenged as I don't have a workshop stand so could be an interesting build.... Enjoy Guy June 21, 2021, 12:23:22 AM |
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Re: Stumpjumper clone
So couple of photos of the finished build per say... Things still to be done are: 1. Cut down the front rear shock bolt. 2. Remove bushes from rear shock so flip chip fits. In both cases thanks @swuw2331 Other all good, rides well but will take some getting used to coming from a 26er... especially the slower but more nervous steering resulting from the bigger front wheel and shorter stem.   
July 15, 2021, 11:34:49 PM |
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Re: Best "Downcountry" 120ish-mm Frame for Long Climbs and Rough Downhills
Hi, Why not use the FM1001? It can be built up with 120mm rear travel and 120/130mm Fork... Slightly heavier than the FM936 but not much 200g on a medium, unless you take the 936 Super Light then it's 360g Cheers Guy April 24, 2022, 05:01:56 AM |
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Re: Stumpjumper clone
I've had the clone for a while now and ultimately felt that the 150mm travel was too much of a good thing... So after scratching the hell out of it due to my errors during transport I got it repainted and decided to go full "Down Country" on it. The forks are now 120mm SID Ultimate with a Slack R -1.5°, A SIDeluxe Ultimate damper and the Specialized ST Damper extension to allow for the 190x42.5 damper. With various other Race Face and SRAM components weight is down to a very reasonable 11kg, running Newmen Carbon rims and 2.3 tyres from Conti. Head Angle is approx 65.5°, effective seat tube angle I still need to calculate. Love the handling of the bike and the 120mm front and back is more than enough for my riding. What do you think? Sacrilege or  Cheers Guy   
June 22, 2022, 11:06:05 AM |
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