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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) I've just finished the bike and don't want to withhold the first pictures from you.  :D

If you like, I'll be happy to create a separate thread for the build, with decent pictures and what the riding impression is like.

As it's a pretty wet winter here at the moment and I'm working until dark, I won't be able to start the first test drive until next weekend at the earliest  :'(

January 06, 2024, 03:02:41 PM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Great build!

I saw that your frame is size 54. May I ask you how tall you are and whats your inseam (I’m trying to figure out which size to order)? Also, did you have the chance to test ride your rig and can comment on how aggressive it feels in terms of the size? Last question: What stemlength are you riding?

Thanks in advance and best regards

I am 1.83 m tall and have an inside leg length of 83 cm.

The frame size 54 fits well and is rather larger than expected. I had doubts at first that it might be too small. But that is not the case.

I didn't get a monocockpit as it wouldn't have been available in my size. With a 38 mm width, the stem was far too short.
And I didn't want to ride a truck steering wheel either...
so I opted for a separate stem and handlebars.
11 cm stem and 38 mm handlebars.

February 08, 2024, 04:48:05 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) At first I had the feeling that I was sitting too stretched out and I moved the saddle completely forward.
Somehow everything seemed longer than I thought...
In the meantime I have moved the saddle back a bit and feel very comfortable in my current position.

I was initially thinking about ordering a 10 cm stem - but I have now discarded that idea.

The bike is really fun, especially on undulating / hilly or mountainous courses.

February 27, 2024, 06:51:07 AM
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Re: Name brand di2 complete or Chiner build? I feel like I'm fairly well-placed to answer this - having gone through basically the same process last year deciding between a Chinese bike, a Merida Scultura 6000 and a Polygon Helios with 105 Di2 (I'm also Australian-based, so these are basically the cheapest electronic options).

TL;DR: I went with the Merida and upgraded. Full story below.

The goal was:

- Under $5k AUD ($3250 USD)
- Decent frame (was willing to consider Chinese - bought a Velobuild 8 years ago and it was pretty good)
- Under 8kg with pedals
- Dual-sided or spider-based power
- Wheels at least 50mm deep and at least 23mm wide, prefereably with name brand hubs and spokes, preferably under 1400g
- Electronic shifting, preferably 12 speed
- Hydraulic brakes
- Good quality tubeless tyres at least 30mm wide
- No totally proprietary stem/bar setups - not too difficult to find one-piece bar/stem combo
- Easy to find a zero offset or short offset seatpost (my position requires a zero offset post on most medium size bikes)
- 38cm c-t-c bars

The Merida provided an extremely cheap starting point at $2750 AUD with 105 Di2. 99 Bikes were selling them at 25% off RRP, but for an extra discount, their gift cards were available at 15% off. Worth keeping an eye out for these deals for any Australians looking for one of these.

The stock build for the Merida is not great, but I was willing to forgive that for the price. The issues are:
- stock wheels are crap - 17mm internal, heavy, not tubeless ready.
- tyres are some low-end Contis, not bad, but not tubeless and only 28mm. You expect that on most OEM bikes though
- handlebar is much too wide, the 42cm bar measured at 43cm and the bar tape is cheap
- stock saddle is heavy, but again, you expect that

In favour, the factors were:
- price gave me a lot of room for upgrades within budget
- nothing unusual about the frame - BB86 bottom bracket, FSA headset, round 27.2mm seatpost(!!), fairly standard race geometry
- world-tour tested (means little, really, but it's nice)
- media reviews tended to be favourable, particularly for the frame
- pearlescent white paintjob is nice

In the end, I bought that and it's now been upgraded with:

Kocevlo one-piece bar and stem, 38x100
Elita One 27.2 zero offset seatpost
Elita One carbon railed, carbon base saddle
Farsports Hyper wheels with DT Swiss 350 hubs and Sapim CX-Ray spokes
Pirelli P-Zero Race TLR (Italy version) 700*30
Magene PES power meter

Final weight: 7.95kg
Final spend: $4,970



I'm super happy with it - it's a nice upgrade from my previous (lighter) rim brake bike, a Focus Izalco Max. It's significantly more comfortable - the 30mm tyres play a big part. The only thing I'm having issues with is the headset with the Kocevlo spacers - it's been a pain finding a balance between having the headset tight enough to remove knocking and stop the split spacers from coming apart, but not having it so tight that it binds the headset. Other than that very minor issue, it's been amazing. The FarSports wheels in particular are excellent - I ordered them without spoke holes for easy tubeless setup, and the Pirelli tyres were quite easy to get on and sealed straight away with a track pump - that impressed me a lot!

I skipped the Polygon Helios because:
- stock wheels are relatively heavy and only 19mm internal.  Cam Nicholls also wasn't a fan of them (see his ride review on YouTube).
- stock handlebars are much too wide for me (42cm) so the integrated bar/stem would need to be replaced anyway

Apart from those two things, it ticks most of the boxes.

I skipped the Chinese frames because:
- groupsets are too expensive to get in Australia on their own compared to a full bike, unless you get lucky on a second-hand set
- the price of framesets from the more reliable brands (LightCarbon, Carbonda, etc.) is starting to get to a point where it becomes better to buy a lower tier frame from a major manufacturer.
- I'd have to pay extra for custom paint, I've had a matte black bike for the last 3 years so I wanted a change. Some are not willing to do custom paint without an MOQ.

March 02, 2024, 11:14:18 PM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) Hello everyone,

a short update on my experiences with the LCR017-D in combination with the Elite Edge 45 mm.

I have just returned from my 1-week training camp in Mallorca and after almost 1,000 km and thousands of meters of altitude, I am more than happy to have built this bike.
It just feels right and is a true all-rounder.
At the front in the wind in the group on the flat - up the mountains - down the mountains. There is nothing to complain about.

Here are a few pictures from Mallorca.

March 21, 2024, 02:58:18 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) A couple of hiccups but Wendy from LC was able to remedy the issues.
April 07, 2024, 10:44:54 PM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Great looking Bike!

How do you like it thus far? I see, that you got the C67DB (?) wheelset. The pattern looks very subtle, I like it. The hicups were nothing major I suppose?

Best regards

The major issue is that they primed the whole frame in a white base coat that should've only been applied below the purple.  So any chips or scratches are immediately more visible now plus the fact there's no clear coat doesn't help.  It couldve been closer to perfect if they hadnt fkd up the paint and cheaped out on not clear coating it.

April 08, 2024, 07:26:54 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Nice build, thanks for posting!
Other than the paint, anything to report on? Holes that aren't round, tolerances that are off, brake mount surfaces that aren't flat, inside of the frame that looks crap, any of that at all?
Very helpful video btw. How boxy is that downtube in real life? depending on the video, it can look like the least aero shape one could come up with, but other times, it's not even noticeable.

The front and rear caliper mounts could've been faced to help with alignment.  The rear cutout for the derailleur hanger was a bit wonky and needed a little persuading to help it align to prevent it from binding up the axle when the set screw was tightened.  I choose black to specifically camouflage the overly boxy down tube.  Other than that the bikes been a dream to ride the first 400 miles thus far.


April 08, 2024, 08:23:39 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Are you sure your frame isnt clear coated? From the video and photos it looks proper glossy (like a clear coated frame). But than again, this could be due to the sunlight.

Definitely not clear coated....only buffed to the point where it's been rubbed through to the white base coat in areas .   You figure the amount of time that they could have saved buffing it out by clear coating it instead would have been more cost effective in the end

April 24, 2024, 06:23:08 PM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) Here, teaser pic...
April 27, 2024, 01:26:32 AM
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