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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: May 05, 2024, 04:12:10 PM »
Chinese customers don't value chinese frames much higher than we do

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: May 05, 2024, 10:29:33 AM »
Really? But the hubs and spoking looks different.
As a bonus, the price for 9Velo seems better value to me.
At least from what I can see.
My 9Velo preference is the CD2.0 in 45mm. Less than 1200gr...

Wheelsfar.com

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: May 05, 2024, 07:20:13 AM »
9velo is just off the shelf farsports parts. You can get it all directly from farsports

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Now this is gas

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: May 05, 2024, 06:02:29 AM »
Reportedly the front end is incredibly flexible

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: May 04, 2024, 07:52:03 PM »
Winspace being open mold was better hidden for a while. I would expect adapt don't sell d2c from how barebones their website and range of offerings on it is, so they've never attempted to make themselves known to the public.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: May 04, 2024, 02:16:38 PM »
Seka, bross, elilee aren't open mold though

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I remember Trace Velo had problems with his FD not working since it couldn't communicate with the RD which was most likely the main receiver for the shifters. The FD itself doesn't communicate directly. Though it'd be interesting to know if you could mix shifters across various electronic groupset. Like using the LTwoo AE MTB e-shifter mechanism (not sure what to call it) with ER9/X shifters. That would open up the possibilities for other 1x drivetrains at least.

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Ltwoo already have flatbar electronic shifters in their cazalogue, just dont seem to be selling them yet
these literally exist for this exact purpose

http://oss.ltwoo.com/pdf/V1.3_2024-L-TWOO%20-PRODUCT_CATALOG.pdf page 27

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Likely the egr mech doesnt support 2x as the rd is the only reciever in the drivetrain and needs to send  a signal to shift to the fd. The egr and new erx levers are identical

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I could swear that for a short period of time around the Anniversary sale, an Aliexpress store sold a EDS TX-RA6100 kit that had Aluminum shift levers, rather than carbon, and used cable brakes. This was the inexpensive kit I saw that could be purchased for around $400, but they were all sold out.   When I look up these listings,  it says "page can't be found"

In Japan, I see this kit for sale, but my computer wont translate the page, so I can't read the details to confirm aluminum brake levers.


Edit:  There are TX-RA6100 and TX-RA6000 kits listed I am failrly sure one kit has aluminum brake levers.

http://hodaka-bicycles.jp/wheeltop-eds-txra6100-delay/

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Aluminium rim brake does not exist (for sale) yet. Only carbon rim brake and alu disc brake

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Ltwoo already have flatbar electronic shifters in their cazalogue, just dont seem to be selling them yet

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seka Spear
« on: April 30, 2024, 06:23:45 PM »
Are you implying if someone is seeking performance and not just looks, then they will ignore Time or Look frames? As in because they don't perform well, just look pretty?  :-X That has to be one of the most ridiculous if not the most ridiculous thing this forum has produced. Sure we are on a forum named Chinertown but this is getting crazy at this point.

"Looks and that it works" so looks good and is easy to live with. With both the 785 and 795 weighting more than a lot of modern aero framesets and the 795 having no credible public aero data I don't see how they are attractive from a performance standpoint. Time also aren't that light either and have even less aerodynamics credibility.

As fo the slipping seatpost. I'd consider that a design not manufacturing error. I don't remeber hearing about poor paint, bearing seats, obvious voids, fraying carbon, failures etc. Maybe I forgot and need to take another look at the exceed thread.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seka Spear
« on: April 30, 2024, 03:50:15 PM »
From a relative value basis, in Europe, the Look 785 Huez Frameset is 2.5k EUR. w/o a seatpost (standard size, so very cheap to source on AliX), and ditto on bars (i'm running Airwold T1000 cockpit from Alix and that's c.100 EUR shipped. So, call it 2.6k EUR. 2k USD = 1.9k EUR, not sure about shipping. (The 795 BladeRS is expensive AF so not using it as a comparison).
And a Time ADHX is 3k EUR.
Bearing in mind that these are headline prices, you can find a frame for less if you hunt around, but you may not get your dream colour.
Now, if you're going to spend 2k on a chinese frame in Europe with questionable / non existent dealer support, should you spend the extra money to get a Look or a Time? I think I would. But if you can't find a deal on these French frames, then 700-1000 eur is a material difference. Is it worth it? Time frames are really supposed to be the pinnacle of composites manufacturing, i'd really love to ride one. They're made in Slovakia, which is not China, for a change. And Look also knows a thing or two about carbon bikes.
Given secondary market prices in Europe atm, idk how well these Seka frames are going to sell. There are a lot of great bikes available, with proven history, shop support, and so on.
Interesting market dynamics.

depends what you value, some punters don't care about anything but looks and that it's works. Others also value performance and won't be interested in a time or look. Seka has an exceptional track record for quality with the exceed and look has had their stinkers too. Let's not act like china can't make good products if they want to, composites engineering isn't photolithography.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seka Spear
« on: April 30, 2024, 10:18:26 AM »
The bross Zenith is not as expansive as Winspace :

https://www.uaecycle.com/products/bross-zenith-6i-105-di2-carbon-road-bike?variant=44507055194330

Although, I don't know if this site is legit.

Seka will have a hard time too in Europe to sell this frame without after sale support behind.

Uaecycle is legit, but bross will have their own distribution in a matter of weeks.

Makes perfect sense foreign markets arent a huge priority, the chinese market is booming

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