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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: MattL on June 26, 2023, 04:50:18 AM
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I was roaming on Aliexpress and i've noticed this new frame, maybe it can be useful for some of you
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Sb6fea1b8d24f42008ae17aa5018deed18.jpg)
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005721753104.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.15.735c497fBQQ3Sk&algo_pvid=ba1a02e4-be99-479a-a639-39ce990f911e&aem_p4p_detail=2023062602392510997415324645750000131881&algo_exp_id=ba1a02e4-be99-479a-a639-39ce990f911e-7&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21799.53%21655.62%21%21%21%21%21%402100b20d16877723656155573d076a%2112000034117028463%21sea%21IT%210&curPageLogUid=YV8Cs7nIFm0P&search_p4p_id=2023062602392510997415324645750000131881_8 (https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005721753104.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.15.735c497fBQQ3Sk&algo_pvid=ba1a02e4-be99-479a-a639-39ce990f911e&aem_p4p_detail=2023062602392510997415324645750000131881&algo_exp_id=ba1a02e4-be99-479a-a639-39ce990f911e-7&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21799.53%21655.62%21%21%21%21%21%402100b20d16877723656155573d076a%2112000034117028463%21sea%21IT%210&curPageLogUid=YV8Cs7nIFm0P&search_p4p_id=2023062602392510997415324645750000131881_8)
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005572500764.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.9.735c497fBQQ3Sk&algo_pvid=ba1a02e4-be99-479a-a639-39ce990f911e&aem_p4p_detail=2023062602392510997415324645750000131881&algo_exp_id=ba1a02e4-be99-479a-a639-39ce990f911e-4&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21664.77%21505.22%21%21%21%21%21%402100b20d16877723656155573d076a%2112000033599959078%21sea%21IT%210&curPageLogUid=b0NfpUtjVnyj&search_p4p_id=2023062602392510997415324645750000131881_5 (https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005572500764.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.9.735c497fBQQ3Sk&algo_pvid=ba1a02e4-be99-479a-a639-39ce990f911e&aem_p4p_detail=2023062602392510997415324645750000131881&algo_exp_id=ba1a02e4-be99-479a-a639-39ce990f911e-4&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21664.77%21505.22%21%21%21%21%21%402100b20d16877723656155573d076a%2112000033599959078%21sea%21IT%210&curPageLogUid=b0NfpUtjVnyj&search_p4p_id=2023062602392510997415324645750000131881_5)
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005754150540.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.31.28a61f51A2etw1&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%20895%2C75%21%E2%82%AC%20627%2C03%21%21%21%21%21%40211b88f116877724818797477ea432%2112000034232556499%21sh%21IT%210 (https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005754150540.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.31.28a61f51A2etw1&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21%E2%82%AC%20895%2C75%21%E2%82%AC%20627%2C03%21%21%21%21%21%40211b88f116877724818797477ea432%2112000034232556499%21sh%21IT%210)
Edit: spcycle sell it too.
https://www.sp-cycle.com/spcycle-2023-new-g058-carbon-gravel-bike-frame-disc-brake-700cx50c-full-hidden-cable-carbon-gravel-bicycle-frameset-p4780294.html (https://www.sp-cycle.com/spcycle-2023-new-g058-carbon-gravel-bike-frame-disc-brake-700cx50c-full-hidden-cable-carbon-gravel-bicycle-frameset-p4780294.html)
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Nice option. Geometry seems on the performance side, besides quite tall stack.
Any experience with SP Cycle? Price seems fair with painted option.
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Any experience with SP Cycle? Price seems fair with painted option.
If the frame is in stock, they seem quite fast. My last order from them took exactly 14 days. 9 days to prep for paint and clear coat and 5 days to ship to the US. I would order from them again.
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I picked one of these up from Winspace. So far it has been mostly brilliant. I ride a 54-56cm road bike, and the 54cm medium frame fits me like a 56cm road bike does, and I think the large would have been too big for me.
I built it up with the Ltwoo 1x12 gravel groupset, and a Shimano M7100 cassette. Ltwoo takes a little getting used to, and it is pretty picky about indexing (small adjustment window for quiet running). Braking us great, and I like the hood shape. Getting wheels with microspline in a 142mm hub is not that easy, so I laced up some using some DTswiss G540 rims with a 105 front hub and an on-sale XTR rear hub. I put a Trans-X squishy seatpost and Redshift squishy stem, and I’m a big fan of those.
The good:
1. Threaded BB is plus, though I am not a fan of tightening using such a shallow lip to grab onto, but I’ll take that over press-fit anything.
2. Cable routing was pretty easy with the semi-internal setup. I have other carbon frames that had choke points inside the chainstays, and this one went pretty smoothly.
3. No issues with the fitment, it all just went together.
4. Seatpost clamp has been trouble free. I do wish it had a rubber seal over top.
The bad:
1. The half ring on the top of the headset is a stupid design. Mine kept loosening up the headset, and I didn’t like the prospect of damaging the steerer in an impact with such poor support the stock one provided. I bought a Specialized SL7 expander plug and compression ring kit for about $20, and haven’t had an issue since.
2. Some of the paint masking left the white primer showing on the edges, which bugged me a little, but is far less noticeable once built up.
3. The accessory bolts are showing some surface rust despite minimal adverse condition riding. I will be replace them soon.
4. I wish the head angle was just a little slacker. That said, with road tires I have no toe overlap which is nice as a change. With 2” tires there is some, but tolerable, so I can’t complain too much.
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Hi Moof123, can you please post some photos? I'm also considering this frame in a medium. What is your height?
I have contacted SP for some photos of a built up bike
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This frame is also sold by Tantan as the GR048 with integrated cables. I've recently built it up; here's what I wrote in another thread:
The quality of the frame seems to be good, and the headset area is uniform, comparable to what I've seen from Lightcarbon. The bearings fit securely without being difficult to press in. The frame also looked good on the inside, very smooth with no crinkles visible. Assembly went smoothly, but routing a mechanical groupset through the handlebars would've been a nightmare; even with Di2 it was tight in some spots. Pulling the shifting cable through the chainstay also took some effort.
The full build with bottle cages, computer mount and pedals is 9.1kg. With a lighter saddle and removing the many heavy accessory bolts in the frame, it should go down to around 8.9kg
I've only went on one ride, but first impressions are good. Due to the longer wheelbase, slack steering angle and low BB, it feels very planted and stable on gravel, especially on descends. On the road it almost feels too stable though, coming from a more CX based frame (GR029). Definitely less agile and slower turning. The frame itself feels stiff and efficient, and the handlebars feel much stiffer than my previous Deda Superzero stem/carbon handlebar combo. Will update once I've ridden more.
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Great stuff, thanks for the pictures. And which one of the sellers did you buy yours from?
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Great stuff, thanks for the pictures. And which one of the sellers did you buy yours from?
Directly from Tantan, they also painted the frame. I'm positively surprised by the paint job, looks very good considering it cost $90.
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More reviews about building up and riding this frameset?
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I’d love to know how this frame rides with a 40-50mm suspension fork (mainly the Fox 32 TC but also Rockshox Rudy, SR Suntour etc). There aren’t any unbranded frames out there that are specifically intended for this AFAIK, but I’d like the extra capability and high front end.
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Hi all,
I have a derailleur hanger question.
I was hoping for some help, I'm still pondering on this frame but SP Cycle aren't able to clarify my question.
I have a Merida Scultura Endurance which I converted from Shimano to Sram AXS. In doing this I found that Merida makes a derailleur hanger specifically for Sram axs that is offset inboard slighty, maybe 5mm.
My question is will this frame be compatible with both Shimano and Sram AXS derailleurs or just shimano derailleurs?
Thanks, Jordan.
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For those who have this frame, in a 1x configuration, a 36t or 38t chainring is ok or too small?
Thanks
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I could be wrong but I think your question is more of a gearing question and depends on the kind of riding that you do... small teeth number up front, slow speeds. Big teeth up front, high speeds
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I could be wrong but I think your question is more of a gearing question and depends on the kind of riding that you do... small teeth number up front, slow speeds. Big teeth up front, high speeds
what I mean is if with a small chainring, the chain could touch the frame when is on some cogs?
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what I mean is if with a small chainring, the chain could touch the frame when is on some cogs?
You should ask the seller. Alternatively, if need be, you can probably use a shim. I 3d printed a thin shim on the drive side on my gf002 to run a 50/34. The 34T was just eating the chainstay. Different chainsets have different Q factors too, so a Shimano crank may not have had this problem: it's a confusing area but shims are part of the trade.
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Hi Moof123, can you please post some photos? I'm also considering this frame in a medium. What is your height?
I have contacted SP for some photos of a built up bike
It looks like one of these bikes is built up with a traditional non-integrated handlebar & stem - does anyone know if the forks have a cable exit port on the shoulder or are they fully integrated? thanks!
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I will be glad if someone tells me the length of thru axles that is needed. I ordered from Seraph AliExpress, it turned out to be the best price for me ($499 with free shipping to Russia, complete with handlebar, matte black) but the axles are not included. The seller of Seraph on AliExpress is very unfriendly.
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I've almost finished my SPCycle GR058 build. Frame took ages to come and then I ordered the wrong type of T47 (external when I needed internal). Anyway, it's basically ready for a shakedown in time for the better weather. Playing around with fit so ignore the swan-neck stem and upturned hoods. I hate the size of the hydraulic hoods vs the old Ultegra 6800 ones I'm used to.
But the bike is fine, overall. I thought toe overlap would be a major issue, but it isn't really (might be in winter mode with full 'guards on). It came out at 8kg without pedals. I've ordered some nylon M5s as there are so many (already rusting) bolts hanging to the frame that I'll save another 50gr here. That's about 1kg less than my XC bike, I'm really interested how differently it rides on the same trails.
As others have said, paint looks good but is already flaky; facings & BB threads were clean and true, small parts of acceptable quality, semi-integrated has no sleeves but was alright to build.
If I like it enough I'll buy some Chinese carbon gravel wheels and Conti TerraSpeed tanwalls. Proper ride report incoming.
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Great! i amore waiting the same frameset in skyblue color!
How long did you wait after spcycle had shipped the frame?
Thanks
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It took two months from placing order to receipt in the UK. Still worth it in my mind, the product is good.
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I've taken the bike for a couple of shortish rides. The only issues I have with the frame are the headset coming loose, despite proper pre-loading/torquing. I am pretty sure this is down to the 'C' shaped compression ring, which is not great and I have asked SPCycle for a full 'O' replacement as my build is semi-internal. They frame itself is great!
I've changed all the bolts (already rusted) for nylon or 4x ti for the bottle cages and saved 48gr for about £3.
The clearance on the frame is enormous, my Panaracer GKSK43s look tiny, it'll fit massive mudguards easily. Currently toe overlap is zero issue, may be slightly with mudguards to boot.
Have to say, I love the bike and for £1500 all in I think it is splendid.
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Finally took my bike out of LBS. The whole assembly came out at 9.1kg, but I wasn't chasing weight reduction either. Absolutely all spare parts were purchased on AliExpress. Total cost about 1450$.
Frame with seatpost and Handlebar: Seraph (It was the cheapest option 499$)
Saddle: Ryet plastic with carbon rail
Chaining: Senicx 42t (I also took 40t just in case)
GRX 600 165mm crankset 46/30
11-46t M8000 cassette
GRX RX812 RD
Lingmai ceramic BB
Riro magnesium pedals
RX600 2x11 levers
CN701 chain
Shimano RT54 160mm rotors
Onirii aluminium wheelset 36t ratchet 28h
Continental Terra Trail 40c
Brooks bar tape
According to the mechanic, the only difficulty was laying the internal wiring. The brakes adjusted easily and the first time.
I am 168 cm tall and chose the XS size. Toe overlap is really a problem that I faced and maybe it was worth taking size S, but this is a feature of geometry and toe overlap is a feature of this geometry. This is my first bike as an adult and I'm still very happy with it. Maybe I'll just change the tires to 50c