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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Yea, sort of. It's the Cube hanger. There are 2 ways to do it. The first link has 2 different hangers and you could use either with some mods. The 906 inner piece fits the frame, but the hole is too small. The 784 outer piece is the correct piece you need, and the hole is the right size, but the "neck?" is too wide and doesn't fit. So I actually bought both and modded them. So you either drill the hole slightly bigger on the 906 to fit the outer piece. Or you can trim the 784 a bit to get it to fit. I did both but ended up sticking with the 906. The 2nd link is for a different outer piece with a 1.5 thread pitch to match the stock thru axle. So if I did it again, I'd buy the 906 from the first link and the outer piece from the 2nd link, then drill out the 906. It's a very small amount and took like 2 minutes. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802098295629.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.3.5fe172b1PHWtWm&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=47710f94-708c-4dab-9512-c81083bd549b&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.291025.0%2Cpvid%3A47710f94-708c-4dab-9512-c81083bd549b%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238109%231935&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%2114.61%217.3%21%21%21%21%21%402103251316846751104572746e8fd2%2112000019912693538%21rec%21US%211815174450&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801555028997.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.33.3d7018025WYVvj&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa May 21, 2023, 08:30:47 AM |
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
I'm about to order the parts as you describe, by inner piece you mean the hanger right and by outer piece you mean the nut? The hanger is two pieces, which I describe as inner and outer. The inner piece is always the actual “hanger” piece that connects to the derailleur. The inner and outer pieces sandwich the frame if that makes sense. The stock derailleur hanger set has the threads on the inner piece with the actual hanger part. The stock outer piece is just a piece of metal that is secured to the frame with a tiny bolt. I didn’t like that because if that tiny little bolt fails (and I’ve had it happen) then the outer piece falls off, which means the frame dropout isn’t secure. The thru axle will keep the wheel in place secured to the hanger, the frame won’t have any attachment points. So the frame is really only secured with the tiny bolt. With the Cube hanger set, the threads are moved to the outer piece. So now you get the inner piece with the hanger, then the frame, then the outer piece with the threads. So now the thru axle connects to the outer piece and secures everything. Much more secure. So what I bought is the inner piece (hanger with no threads) and a separate outer piece (with threads) and combined them to get the set. Hope that makes sense. June 06, 2023, 08:37:00 AM |
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Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
Got quoted $559 for the eR9 group shipped to the US. Not terrible, but I’d probably wait still.
June 07, 2023, 06:38:49 AM |
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Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
Have they said whether the eRX has satellite ports? I’m guessing no. Maybe for the second gen. For me, that’s one of the huge benefits of electronic shifting. And a prerequisite for me to upgrade at this point.
July 19, 2023, 09:54:39 AM |
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
New groupset (Ultegra 11sp Di2). Went back to the LightBicycle AR45s with Challenge Criterium RS tires. July 26, 2023, 07:19:05 PM |
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Looks good! Really interested in your torough opinion on how the VB fares against your SL7. I am a bit hestinant as i want to build up a budget bike with a new 12spd Di2, but i sometimes hear that the 168 feels "sluggish"(?) conpared to an genuine Specialized. It's heavier by around 500-600g, but other than that I don't think I could tell the difference. It's been my race bike all season and I love it. The Tarmac is my normal everyday riding bike mainly for the setup/position. I just upgraded it to 12sp Di2 which is why the 11sp went on the 168. Basically, I went weight weenie and comfort for the SL7, while this bike is my "cheap" race bike. I wouldn't describe it as sluggish at all. For reference my FTP is around 330W with a sprint around 1,600W. It doesn't hold me back. Which cockpit/handlebar is that? The stem seems longer than 120mm? I'm interested because options like these are rare. 120mm/40cm as stated above. Kocevlo (The One Pro) in the link above. Really nice bars for the price. July 29, 2023, 09:52:53 AM |
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Thanks for the insights! Also great to hear you have some racing background to back up your opinion. It's really hard to tell without going to a wind tunnel, but I don't feel any slower on the 168. It's a really solid cheap bike that I am happy to race on. If it was a handful of watts slower I wouldn't be surprised but I don't think it's massive. August 03, 2023, 04:14:04 PM |
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Re: Recommendations for integrated handlebar?
Looking to upgrade one of my older road bikes with a integrated handlebar, mostly for the looks and feel. Bike is only used for light training on flats and indoors traning in the winter. Wanted spec: 380 wide, 90 stem and "modern/compact" with short reach to bends. The Kocevlo and Ullicyc are the same bar and they are both copies of The One Pro with a different clamp design, but the stem and bars are the same. I bought both The One Pro and Kocevlo bars and they are identical apart from the steerer clamp. The One Pro were about 25g lighter (370g vs 395g); whether that's the clamp design (likely) or a different carbon layup, I couldn't tell any difference between the two. In the end, I went with the Kocevlo due to being half the price. They've been on my bike since May (you can search my posts) and I've raced them a dozen times or so. I like them and would buy again. They're plenty stiff for me and I'm around 85kg and can put out 1600W peak in a sprint. No flex I can feel. Finish is on par for AliEx bars and I don't have any safety concerns even at my weight. I ran mech 1x and now Di2, no issues with cable routing apart from the usual annoyances of fully internal bars. Couldn't tell you if they could handle 2x mech but they look to have ample room albeit a little tight. For my main road bike, I have the Black Inc. copies. I paid around $80 and honestly, these are my favorite bars ever. They weigh 335g for 120/40 so not the lightest by any means. But they are a great bar. They have a little groove on the underside so I don't route internally but the cables remain mostly hidden. They aren't as flat on the tops but have an oval shape which I find super comfy riding on the tops and I wrap all the way to the stem. Stiff enough for my tastes as well. My only complain is the weight as I was looking to save grams, but even at that weight I haven't found a replacement that's better so they've been on for close to 2 years now. August 05, 2023, 06:28:38 AM |
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Re: Allround Performance Bike Build
Hi @all, Curious why you say specifically no Velobuild. I’m on the 168 (Tarmac SL7 copy) and it’s been great. Fully integrated cables. Nearly as light as the SL7. A couple quirks but nothing major. I’m very happy with mine and I also ride an actual Tarmac SL7. The 168 is my race bike. Did you have a bad experience with them? I would understand. I refuse to ever ride another Tan Tan after the absolutely horrible experience I had with not only the frameset (fork was misaligned, thru axles we’re too short, terrible quality all around) but more that their customer service was the worst I’ve experienced in my entire life. They even threatened to publish my home address and phone number to harass me. I wouldn’t ride their products if you paid me. So if it’s something like that I get it. Just curious why you aren’t considering them. September 07, 2023, 01:38:04 PM |
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Re: 3D Printed Saddles
I got the Power Mirror clone mounted and did a few rides. It’s not great. It looks exactly like the Power Mirror and shares the same dimensions, but they got the firmness completely wrong. The actual Power Mirror is firm in the back where the sit bones are and softer up front near “the goods.” This one is switched. The back area has the density of a used sponge and is basically useless. Meanwhile the front 3D material is rock hard and doesn’t cushion at all. So you sink in at the rear and it almost angles up to the front. Not to mention the rails are oddly placed and the entire saddle angles up towards the front pretty aggressively. It was difficult to even get a flat saddle angle. All in all it’s a for sure loser in my book. I’d avoid for sure. September 08, 2023, 11:49:37 AM |
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