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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: April 08, 2023, 05:47:23 PM »
Anybody have a seatpost that is slightly crooked? I got off the bike and thought my saddle was bent because it had a slight right rotation, but I tried a different saddle and got the same thing. Took off the saddle and it looks like the mounting base is actually crooked and rotated clockwise if looking down on it, making the saddle nose point right. I emailed "Chris" but curious if anybody else noticed a similar flaw.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: April 04, 2023, 09:39:44 AM »
I am sure it will be lot of fun to ride! Instead of blue bar tape, how about pink accent bar tape matching your bottle cages?

Supacaz has the perfect tape that’s mostly black with pink “stars” or whatever the logo is. I just happened to have the blue tape sitting around.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: April 03, 2023, 10:16:14 AM »
Man, this is a really good looking bike।

Thanks! I still have to wrap the bars and do a brake bleed before I hit the road. But I was able to put it on the trainer for a ride and it feels good, got the shifting tuned and my fit dialed. Can’t wait to go for a real ride and see how the frame feels.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: April 03, 2023, 10:13:27 AM »
yeah, will go with the oem version of the one pro handlebars as well. did you by chance weigh the spacers that came with it?

The top transition piece (between stem and spacers) is 3.8g. The top cap is 9.3g. The compression plus is 10.8g. The 5mm spacer is 3.6h and the 10mm spacer is 7.2g.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: April 03, 2023, 05:58:30 AM »
sweet build ;) are you running the 3D-printed headset cover?

No. I went back to the one piece bar/stem and used all the parts from that. A couple reasons. The Tarmac stem I had was 110 and I want to run a 120, so it was either buy a new Tarmac stem for $90 or a one piece from Ali for roughly the same price. Plus these bars are a little more aero than what I had. And I just like the look of these. All the cables are completely hidden rather than having the shift cable exposed, so it just looks cleaner. If I had the correct Tarmac stem length though I would have just used that, but since I needed to buy a new one, I decided to go the one piece option.


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: April 02, 2023, 12:54:17 PM »





Almost finished. Still deciding on bar tape. I have some black Supacaz and some blue Lizard Skins. The blue isn't the exact shade as the frame, and I'm not sure it would be too much blue.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: March 30, 2023, 04:05:48 PM »
has anyone on here fitted a "the one pro" handlebar to their 168? is there a headset cover that fits the frame?

The One Pro fits perfectly. Just use everything that came with the bar, not the stuff that comes with the frame. So the handlebar comes with a compression wedge, top cap, and spacers; use those. They’re lighter as well.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Groupset News
« on: March 13, 2023, 12:43:42 PM »
Looks pretty sweet. But I have to agree, at that price I’m passing. I do hope the price will come down, it would be cool to have a cheap option.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: March 11, 2023, 07:21:15 PM »
*Warning, lots of pictures. If you guys want I can delete them all and link an imgur folder*

Had some "fun" today trying some things out in the name of science. I was curious whether you could use a Tarmac stem using the Allez conversion top cap. So I swung by my local shop and picked up a Tarmac/Allez compression ring for $25. Fired up the 3D printer and printed the top cap, which came out pretty nice.







This is where I started to run into problems. The top headset bearing included with the frame is ID 40mm, which is ever so slightly smaller than the Tarmac bearing, which is ID 40.5mm. You'd think that 0.5mm wouldn't make a difference, but it did. The main body of the compression ring woud snap into place, but the inner shim wouldn't fit because the compression ring was compressed.




As you can see, the slot was pinching, and the shim didn't have room to slot in. Almost just gave up, but I had a spare bearing, so I experimented...with the sander. Used a dremel and sanded the inner surface of the bearing to widen the ID. Got it to around 40.3mm before I ran out of sandpaper drums. But the good news was that it was just enough to get the compression ring and shim to fit. Woohoo!

On to the next problem. The Tarmac compression ring sits lower in the bearing, and I was running into the same issue as a lot of people here. The top cap was hitting the frame and couldn't preload the bearing.



Ended up not being a huge issue. I considered buying a thicker bearing (8mm probably would have worked), but I just made a quick change to the top cap design and reprinted. 5 hours later I had a new top cap the worked.



Routed the cables.


And mounted the stem.


And....new problems. As you can probably see, the spacers cause a tight bend in the white shift cable, enough so that I couldn't pass the cable. And after taking it off, you can see it kinked.





New plan. The Tarmac can use mechanical shifting, so I knew there was a way. In the end, I just drilled a hole for the shift cable.




Didn't look too bad, and a little better with the bat.




But the bat caused another kink in the shift cable so I left it off. A little piece of shrink wrap kept things tidy.




So, what did I learn? The Tarmac stem is possible and looks pretty good in my opinion. The Allez top cap will not work without either getting a thicker bearing or changing the design (I can post the STL of both if people want). The compression ring and bearing will have to be modified a little to get a bigger ID. Mechanical shifting will work but won't look as good as electronic.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: March 09, 2023, 04:51:18 AM »

Nice! Looking forward to seeing the build and hearing how the direct hangers works out. Do you have a link for it? Nice work on the 3D covers.

I just ordered this one, labeled H784. The first one I ordered was the 906 which is the wrong one. The 906 is too small and the outer piece is flat. The 784 has a bigger outer piece with a conical shape to where it meshes with the frame. Some pictures below.

Edit: Also, it will change the thru axle needed from a 1.5 thread pitch to a 1.0. May be a deal breaker with the smaller threads. I'd rather have 1.5 but it's fine. I'd rather have the direct mount and have an axle ready.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803598543431.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.order_detail_item.4.6504f19cFOTG0h&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US



https://www.rearmechhanger.com/product/rear-gear-mech-derailleur-hanger-cc251/

Wrong outer piece (flat)


Stock outer piece (cone)





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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: March 07, 2023, 02:57:52 PM »
Hey guys, new to the forum. Wanted to show my upcoming 168 build. I’ll link the weightweenies thread at the bottom as well for a more in-depth build process. My painted size 58 came in at 1,155g with 380g for the cut fork. Not bad with the white paint. The fork is well under a lot of what I’ve seen here and I’m wondering if it’s a different fork, or one from the 177. So a question for the group: did your fork have an integrated crown race or did you need one? I needed one (you can see from the picture below) and they supplied it thankfully, but from pictures on here it seems most other have an integrated crown race and I’m thinking I got a different fork. Other quick thoughts on the cockpit. Has anybody tried the Allez top cap with the SL7 stem. Seems like it would work pretty well. And for the hanger, I have a Cube on order that is supposed to be the direct mount hanger compatible with this frame. Plus, it has the benefit of having the threads on the outer piece, adding a safety mechanism should the small screw fall out.







https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=172167

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