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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: 1Sigma on May 15, 2021, 03:05:45 PM
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Hi all,
Any recommendations for a decent, lightweight, chiner saddle?
Seems like a lot of hit and miss on these, and hard to discern if it boils down to QC issues or, you know, because carbon saddles can be more prone to failure.
Currently checking this one out on Ali:
C$ 23.66 6％ Off | superlogic 3K Full Carbon Fiber Bicycle Saddle Road MTB Bike Carbon Saddle Seat Matte bike cushion 275*143mm cycling parts
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKjZyHX
Super light (115g) generally favourable reviews (for me, meaning the poor reviews do not revolve around quality), low incidence or reported failure (?)
Thanks!
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i have the selle italia slr tekno flo knockoff and i have just bought another selle italia knockoff, both 140-160g. the slr tekno flo is 147mm wide and is meant for a moderate to large flexibility. you cant lack the flexibility because the thing curves down pretty severely so youd be uncomfortable if you're a bigger guy.
whats weird about it is that its the same discomfort from minute 1 thru hour 4, its uncomfortable but not painful, ive been into cycling for 4 months so it can just be im not used to a saddle but the pain is consistent, there isnt a drop off of comfort at some point
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Thanks Nickk2000!
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I have this one on my road, gravel and MTB :
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0bVL65
It is 83g, solid and surprisingly comfy.
Well... if you ride regularly and with bibs.
Not a big investment to try in any case.
And... I buy them second hand if you're not happy ;D
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I have this one on my road, gravel and MTB :
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0bVL65
It is 83g, solid and surprisingly comfy.
Well... if you ride regularly and with bibs.
Not a big investment to try in any case.
And... I buy them second hand if you're not happy ;D
i saw that saddle. i found that hump to look really uncomfortable. what does it feel like for you?
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i saw that saddle. i found that hump to look really uncomfortable. what does it feel like for you?
After a bike fit, I learned my thighs are too big for my hips.
So not much space for a saddle, and I scouted Ali to find a narrow saddle.
Found the one above, and these:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_msnEIdB (crap, broke instantly).
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNNVQNf(ok, but wider than advertised)
The GUB 1156 was my previous saddle for years.
It looks like a Selle SMP, so it gets knocked off Ali regularly, probably for some copyright hunters.
But if you find a seller that sells GUB saddles(light and strong), and ask for a 1156, they have it.
eg: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPRTmPb
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I have this one on my road, gravel and MTB :
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0bVL65
It is 83g, solid and surprisingly comfy.
Well... if you ride regularly and with bibs.
Not a big investment to try in any case.
And... I buy them second hand if you're not happy ;D
Great recommendation
Added to my wishlist. I saw it before - don't know why I took a pass on it.
I'll compare the dimensions against my current saddle.
Anyone have experience with the Superlogic saddles?
Seem to be pretty well reviewed, except by those who found it hard (duh), used it without a chamois, didn't realize it had oval rails
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOXCY8d
Edit: after measuring my sit bones and my current saddle, the EC90 one looks to be the way to go.
Thanks for the suggestion, Carbonazza
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Great recommendation
Added to my wishlist. I saw it before - don't know why I took a pass on it.
I'll compare the dimensions against my current saddle.
Anyone have experience with the Superlogic saddles?
Seem to be pretty well reviewed, except by those who found it hard (duh), used it without a chamois, didn't realize it had oval rails
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOXCY8d
Edit: after measuring my sit bones and my current saddle, the EC90 one looks to be the way to go.
Thanks for the suggestion, Carbonazza
Just came in. Gonna be honest, this one has the most questionable build quality of all the part purchased so far.
The hope is that it is function over form, and I don't end up picking carbon out of my butt
On the plus side, it came in at a lean 80g
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Hi,
I just bought this one since it is very similar to my SMP Dynamic but 10 times cheaper !
I am still waiting for it . I just hope it is as good as the SMP since the SMP Dynamic is the only saddle
my butt can handle !!!
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005002499553105.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.619d6c37G80ylO
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I own the black version of this guy. You have a choice of yellow (tdf) red and black. Figured not to be a fanboy and went with black. I own one and i hve two more in the mail. Overall, comfortable, i was worried about the lack of padding on the pure carbon ones. Says sele italia and le tour de france on the side. $25, worth a shot. 147-150mm i think, so a little wider than some others, and right around 150g. Impressed with the quality too, no creaking, cracking, etc. Overall, very happy because im not looking for saddles anymore after this.
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Picked up an EC90 carbon saddle for $26 Canadian.
Lightweight at 80g
Finish could be nicer, and carbon around the area where the rails mate with the seat looks sloppy.
Surprisingly comfortable when wearing a chamois.
However, 50km in it developed a crack. Looks repairable at the moment, and still rideable.
I weigh 85kg, which was probably a factor
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Picked up an EC90 carbon saddle for $26 Canadian.
Lightweight at 80g
Finish could be nicer, and carbon around the area where the rails mate with the seat looks sloppy.
Surprisingly comfortable when wearing a chamois.
However, 50km in it developed a crack. Looks repairable at the moment, and still rideable.
I weigh 85kg, which was probably a factor
I ordered one of these based on the previous recommendations. Waiting for it to arrive any day now. I’m closer to 89 Kg or so, so we’ll see how long it lasts! Would be a huge weight savings compared to my Specialized Power Comp.
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I ordered one of these based on the previous recommendations. Waiting for it to arrive any day now. I’m closer to 89 Kg or so, so we’ll see how long it lasts! Would be a huge weight savings compared to my Specialized Power Comp.
If it helps, I think I know when it happened.
I was sitting a bit forward in the saddle at around 35kph, and encountered an unexpected bump in the road.
This made my bottom slam into the saddle, as I was didn’t anticipate the bump. This resulted in a large dynamic load placed on the nose of the saddle, and I heard a crack at the time.
Stopped to inspect, but didn’t notice anything until I got home.
Looks small enough to patch though
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...Looks small enough to patch though
I would throw it out, it will crack more at the next bump.
Not that is dangerous, but it may leave you without saddle in the middle of a long ride.
I was learning to nose-pivot with my MTB.
And once felt hard with all my weight(well...67kg) on the saddle.
Both rails cracked, absorbing most of the shock instead of my butt.
The saddle stayed in place, not rigid nor rideable anymore, but not a carbon explosion either.
I contacted EC90 by aliexpress, and they did send me one free + a small shipping.
Now I stocked 2 of them in case I break one again.
We could ask to make the rails with a kevlar blend like on some expensive models.
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I ordered one of these based on the previous recommendations. Waiting for it to arrive any day now. I’m closer to 89 Kg or so, so we’ll see how long it lasts! Would be a huge weight savings compared to my Specialized Power Comp.
Update on my EC90 saddle, it cracked :-[
Rails seem to be ok but as picture, the left side next to the cut out cracked. It must have splintered a few rides ago as I started to notice by bibs were catching on something but it wasn't obvious. Then on my last ride this weekend the sharp pieces of carbon tore a bunch of holes in one of my nicest bibs and it became clear...
I've contacted the seller a couple of days ago (EC90 Official Store) and so far they have have read the messages but not responded. I was very close to buying another of these saddles for my gravel bike as I have been super happy with it up until the crack on the while riding it on the road bike. Not sure if what I got was a dud or I should expect this to happen again. I'm 90Kg and the saddle says it can support max 100Kg.
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I ordered the Elita One in the small 143mm size and will report back. Looks like a specialized knock off.
Seems rather comfortable at only 122g!
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32808616991.html?spm=a2g0o.9042311.0.0.27424c4dIuSNxM
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I've put 5,000km on this one and it's been great! Very comfortable (even on 3 hour+ rides) and has shown no signs of wear. Would highly recommend it!
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001009080376.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001009080376.html)
I've paired it with an OG-Evkin seatpost which has also been fantastic. Never slipped or creaked and is pretty light.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33000810443.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33000810443.html)
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Shame more brands don't offer 128mm saddles...
Having gone from using 143mm width short-nose saddles, to a 138 traditional saddle, it turns out a 128 width carbon rail saddle from Prime Bike Components is the most comfortable for me.
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I Have two San Marco (on the roadie and MTB) like this 130mm (114g) https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005001649437595.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1d86671fDKUVFL&algo_pvid=f3c9cf2f-8ba9-427c-94b0-492632ee2319&algo_exp_id=f3c9cf2f-8ba9-427c-94b0-492632ee2319-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000016979640386%22%7D&pdp_pi=-1%3B16.94%3B-1%3BEUR+2.45%40salePrice%3BEUR%3Bsearch-mainSearch (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005001649437595.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1d86671fDKUVFL&algo_pvid=f3c9cf2f-8ba9-427c-94b0-492632ee2319&algo_exp_id=f3c9cf2f-8ba9-427c-94b0-492632ee2319-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000016979640386%22%7D&pdp_pi=-1%3B16.94%3B-1%3BEUR+2.45%40salePrice%3BEUR%3Bsearch-mainSearch)...Didn't adapt to the one on the Road due to the more aero position and sticked with my Old Selle SMP Evo. Other than that its great even with all the bumps on the MTB.
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Update on my EC90 saddle, it cracked :-[
Rails seem to be ok but as picture, the left side next to the cut out cracked. It must have splintered a few rides ago as I started to notice by bibs were catching on something but it wasn't obvious. Then on my last ride this weekend the sharp pieces of carbon tore a bunch of holes in one of my nicest bibs and it became clear...
I've contacted the seller a couple of days ago (EC90 Official Store) and so far they have have read the messages but not responded. I was very close to buying another of these saddles for my gravel bike as I have been super happy with it up until the crack on the while riding it on the road bike. Not sure if what I got was a dud or I should expect this to happen again. I'm 90Kg and the saddle says it can support max 100Kg.
Not sure as the picture is a bit blurred, but it looks like an impact.
I hit one like this one day, putting the bike against a pole to park it, and the saddle hit the pole too hard, and cracked, not that much, but enough to catch my bib too.
At that price, I see them as another disposable part of the bike, and have always one home as a backup.
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Not sure as the picture is a bit blurred, but it looks like an impact.
I hit one like this one day, putting the bike against a pole to park it, and the saddle hit the pole too hard, and cracked, not that much, but enough to catch my bib too.
At that price, I see them as another disposable part of the bike, and have always one home as a backup.
Here is another photo. I hadn't thought about this being an impact related issue and I can't think of a time the saddle hit something but may it was more subtle and didn't take much.
Finally after getting Aliexpress to send the seller a "reminder" about the issues they responded and offered a replacement. Will see how the next one works out. Hopefully all goes well and I'll replace the saddle on my other bike with one of these as well!
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Update on my EC90 saddle, it cracked :-[
Rails seem to be ok but as picture, the left side next to the cut out cracked. It must have splintered a few rides ago as I started to notice by bibs were catching on something but it wasn't obvious. Then on my last ride this weekend the sharp pieces of carbon tore a bunch of holes in one of my nicest bibs and it became clear...
I've contacted the seller a couple of days ago (EC90 Official Store) and so far they have have read the messages but not responded. I was very close to buying another of these saddles for my gravel bike as I have been super happy with it up until the crack on the while riding it on the road bike. Not sure if what I got was a dud or I should expect this to happen again. I'm 90Kg and the saddle says it can support max 100Kg.
I doubt that they will remedy it. I suspect they fall into the "you get what you pay for" vendors or AliX. I almost feel like the 100kg claim is more of a 100% chance of failure rating.
My crack hasn't gotten any worse, but then it's been on the indoor trainer since December. Also, I've dropped 8kg, which probably helps.
I will probably patch mine with a little carbon fiber and call it a day.
Let us know if they get back to you, and if you buy a replacement or get a different saddle!
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I doubt that they will remedy it. I suspect they fall into the "you get what you pay for" vendors or AliX. I almost feel like the 100kg claim is more of a 100% chance of failure rating.
My crack hasn't gotten any worse, but then it's been on the indoor trainer since December. Also, I've dropped 8kg, which probably helps.
I will probably patch mine with a little carbon fiber and call it a day.
Let us know if they get back to you, and if you buy a replacement or get a different saddle!
Hey! Looks like you didn't see my last post, they are sending a replacement. Interested to see how this one works out. Tempted to fix the current one with some gorilla tape if I can get away with it ;D and use it on the gravel bike
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Hey! Looks like you didn't see my last post, they are sending a replacement. Interested to see how this one works out. Tempted to fix the current one with some gorilla tape if I can get away with it ;D and use it on the gravel bike
Nice! If you already shredded a pair of bib tights, I'd probably steer clear of the gorilla tape lol
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Nice! If you already shredded a pair of bib tights, I'd probably steer clear of the gorilla tape lol
Good point, may still risk it if it seems stable lol - interested in your carbon repair though. How involved is it for someone that has never done something like that?
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I recommend the Huooge X6S saddle. It’s a Power replica in terms of shape and has carbon rails and shell unlike lower end offerings such as the EC90.
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I doubt that they will remedy it. I suspect they fall into the "you get what you pay for" vendors or AliX. I almost feel like the 100kg claim is more of a 100% chance of failure rating.
My crack hasn't gotten any worse, but then it's been on the indoor trainer since December. Also, I've dropped 8kg, which probably helps.
I will probably patch mine with a little carbon fiber and call it a day.
Let us know if they get back to you, and if you buy a replacement or get a different saddle!
I think There is a big misconception of vendors on Ali express and people don't even contact the vendors they just assume wont get an answer or the problem solved.... Up to this day everything i had problems with was replaced by the vendor at no cost for me .....A friend of mine broke a carbon rim due to a big impact on a rock (Clearly out of Warranty). After sending them photos (the goal was to have a discounted replacement) they replied saying they would replace the rim. Another had a cracked integrated handlebar (replaced at no cost), broken Seatpost - Replaced, Cassete problem - Replaced.....list goes on... I guess it depends on the vendor reputation, but the majority nowadays dont want to risk bad reviews.
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I think There is a big misconception of vendors on Ali express and people don't even contact the vendors they just assume wont get an answer or the problem solved.... Up to this day everything i had problems with was replaced by the vendor at no cost for me .....A friend of mine broke a carbon rim due to a big impact on a rock (Clearly out of Warranty). After sending them photos (the goal was to have a discounted replacement) they replied saying they would replace the rim. Another had a cracked integrated handlebar (replaced at no cost), broken Seatpost - Replaced, Cassete problem - Replaced.....list goes on... I guess it depends on the vendor reputation, but the majority nowadays dont want to risk bad reviews.
Good point, you need to try at least.
Also if you're not getting an answer I found a pretty hard to find option where Aliexpress with "remind" (their words) the seller that something needs attention and once I did that I got a response whereas I hadn't before.
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When i bought my Frame, i've contacted the seller with a question.....and shared photos of the DYI painted bike i did, with him. He asked me to put the photos in the review and he would send me a gift.....the gift was a 85€ 800mm integrated carbon handlebar (Ryet). Im not using it as i already have one, but it is there in the shelf waiting for a shot :). Tell me which named brand would do that 8)
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Update on my cracked EC90. The seller sent me a replacement and so far so good! Not sure I've had it for as long as the first one so we shall see what happens over time. I'm also going to be more careful to avoid any impacts when leaning it against a wall or poll as @carbonazza suggested. For that price and weight, I can also see it being becoming a "disposable" part although I don't like the idea of that.
I'm still using the cracked one with gorilla tape on it to avoid cutting bibs on the gravel bike and also so far so good. Maybe I'll look into a carbon DIY repair some day.
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Found this new company called Cosy Saddle (https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/3d-printed-saddle-hollow-CR-MO_1600465494053.html)
They're making this 3D printed saddle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HA3WFH_gY0
Looks much better executed than the ZTTO. According to this video (https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1KS4y1U73w), they're also developing carbon and short nose versions.
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Found this new company called Cosy Saddle (https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/3d-printed-saddle-hollow-CR-MO_1600465494053.html)
They're making this 3D printed saddle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HA3WFH_gY0
Looks much better executed than the ZTTO. According to this video (https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1KS4y1U73w), they're also developing carbon and short nose versions.
That's one slick marketing video.
I currently do not have high hopes for the EC90 and my bum this season. So far I've mostly used it indoors. We'll see how it goes. If it doesn't work out, I'd be game to try this one.
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Is the weight of the 3D Cosy listed somewhere? Hard to beat the ~85g EC90 but the extra comfort and cool design is tempting. Wonder if they'll start selling on Aliexpress soon.
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Is the weight of the 3D Cosy listed somewhere? Hard to beat the ~85g EC90 but the extra comfort and cool design is tempting. Wonder if they'll start selling on Aliexpress soon.
255g! Yikes!
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255g! Yikes!
The estimated weight for the carbon version will be around 200g (long nose?), so a couple grams heavier than the Power Mirror at 193g. Hopefully the carbon short nose will be a bit lighter in the mid 19Xg range, but I don't see them being anywhere near the Romin Mirror at 185g. These 3D printed saddles definitely aren't meant for weightweenies.
Bigrock is also developing their own while Balugoe (related to the EC90 factory apparently?) recently brought theirs to market. The latter however isn't what I'd consider a 'legit' operation though.
(https://i.imgur.com/Z99PvQq.jpg)
It's definitely exciting days. Like carbon spoked wheels, these 3D printed saddles are shaking up the cycling industry because it's a completely different way of producing an existing product. Major players might not be willing to adopt these new technologies because it may entail jeopardising established supplier relations (e.g. saddle foam and Sapim spokes). I see it like how I see EV versus ICE cars, Chinese domestic brands have the opportunity to leapfrog technologies instead of perpetually playing catchup.
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255g! Yikes!
Yikes is right! Not sure I'd switch from my EC90 for that or 200g, unless it cracks on me again or I start to find it uncomfortable
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I recommend the Huooge X6S saddle. It’s a Power replica in terms of shape and has carbon rails and shell unlike lower end offerings such as the EC90.
I found a similar saddle called the GUB 1188
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Good point, may still risk it if it seems stable lol - interested in your carbon repair though. How involved is it for someone that has never done something like that?
Looks like I never responded to this. Replacing some parts for spring. Taking off the seat reminded me that I forgot.
I used Maybe $0.50 of carbon fibre and dollar store 2-part epoxy.
Looks sturdy enough, and held up on the turbo trainer, but it is UUUUGGGLLY!!!
Someone with more prowess could have done a better job I am sure
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Masking or painters tape, Wax paper, shrink wrap tape, and heat gun. Then you'll have smooth layers.
Mask off where you don't want resin. I use wax paper cause my shrink tape sticks too well. Heat gun to remove air bubbles from resin and shrink tape to tighten fiber and squeeze excess resin out.
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Masking or painters tape, Wax paper, shrink wrap tape, and heat gun. Then you'll have smooth layers.
Mask off where you don't want resin. I use wax paper cause my shrink tape sticks too well. Heat gun to remove air bubbles from resin and shrink tape to tighten fiber and squeeze excess resin out.
One part is me wants another crack to develop so I can try it again.
One part of would be happy to never have to use these tips in the future.
Thanks for the advice!
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Here's a chainstay I repaired.
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Found this new company called Cosy Saddle (https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/3d-printed-saddle-hollow-CR-MO_1600465494053.html)
They're making this 3D printed saddle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HA3WFH_gY0
Looks much better executed than the ZTTO. According to this video (https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1KS4y1U73w), they're also developing carbon and short nose versions.
Just ordered one piece out of curiosity. The weight doesn't bother me much if there is comfort to be found! They also told me that the carbon rail version will be ready for sale by the end of this month. If I like the current one enough I'll probably order the carbon rail version as well.
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Just ordered one piece out of curiosity. The weight doesn't bother me much if there is comfort to be found! They also told me that the carbon rail version will be ready for sale by the end of this month. If I like the current one enough I'll probably order the carbon rail version as well.
Where did you buy it and for how much?
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Where did you buy it and for how much?
I got it from the Alibaba link that StiffWeenies shared.
US$61.50 for the saddle, with US$23.80 EMS to South East Asia. I didn't have a forwarding agent, so that shipping quote was from them.
Not the cheapest saddle I've bought from China, but very curious to see how it stands up on long rides.
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Just received the saddle today via FedEx. Sticker price is ¥699 (~US$105) without shipping and handling, so maybe expect it to retail at that price.
Measurements on the tag were accurate (275mm x 145mm), with the sticker on the packaging stating a 275x150.
Weighs slightly less on my kitchen scale than the 270g advertised.
Looks like they will be coming out with carbon and titanium rail versions.
Smacking this on today and testing it out.
*EDIT*
Post-ride
Did a couple of two hour rides in two different bibs (Rapha and Monton).
I have only tested the Specialized Romin Evo at a shop for 15 mins so I cannot make any direct comparisons.
I can however compare to my previous Chiner Selle Italia saddle that I've ridden for ~2000km.
Pros:
I realise that comfort is supposed to come from the bib padding and not saddle padding but I really did feel a difference in both comfort and support.
I was adjusting my position less and didn't get any numbness in my ass. I felt planted, and even in different positions, my sit bones were well supported.
Cons:
Mud and gunk got trapped in the holes and required some slightly higher pressure washing.
Weight can definitely be a turn off, but I should be the one shedding weight :(
Mind you, I'm an unfit 91kg rider mostly cycling on a smart trainer, but I'm a convert. Will definitely be ordering the titanium rail version in the future for my brother as a christmas gift (and maybe one for myself).
It's a fifth of the price of a branded 3d saddle for my region, and gives a much better value for my money.
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Going to replace my EC90 saddle with this one I found on AliX.
While I got used to the EC90 saddle, which accommodates my fairly narrow q-factor, the rise in the back makes me shift around too much.
So I picked a flatter saddle of similar width and weight.
Gonna add some automotive vinyl to it, just because
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Going to replace my EC90 saddle with this one I found on AliX.
While I got used to the EC90 saddle, which accommodates my fairly narrow q-factor, the rise in the back makes me shift around too much.
So I picked a flatter saddle of similar width and weight.
Gonna add some automotive vinyl to it, just because
Looks interesting, what’s the weight?
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Looks interesting, what’s the weight?
Close to advertised. 88g
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Going to replace my EC90 saddle with this one I found on AliX.
While I got used to the EC90 saddle, which accommodates my fairly narrow q-factor, the rise in the back makes me shift around too much.
So I picked a flatter saddle of similar width and weight.
Gonna add some automotive vinyl to it, just because
Link to seller?
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Link to seller?
ASISU Carbon cycling store
ASISU carbon cycling Store
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqXeNZM (https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqXeNZM)
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An almost perfect vinyl wrap job…
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Nice! Looks great.
Looking forward to hearing how it compares to the EC90. Using that saddle on both my road and gravel (eek!) bikes at the moment.
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Nice! Looks great.
Looking forward to hearing how it compares to the EC90. Using that saddle on both my road and gravel (eek!) bikes at the moment.
So far, so good.
I very much prefer the flat back on this as opposed to the raised back on the EC90. On the EC90, no matter how I adjusted the saddle, the slope tries to push me towards the nose of the saddle.
It is noticeably wider at 140mm (by 12mm). This ought to be ok for me, as the rule of thumb is +2cm to sit bone width (120mm for me) for a roughly 45° riding position.
Still feels wide though. Not uncomfortable, but noticeable. I can feel the flare against the back of my thigh on the downstroke. I wonder if it’ll wear on my shorts over time.
Still can’t tell if it is too wide, or because I’ve just gotten used to the narrower EC90
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Just picked this up, 110,1 gram "slightly" padded.
Looks like an exact copy, maybe less quality leather but very robust construction like the real deal. A friend rides the real one for 300 euro and looks very nice.
I am not gonna test it in a long time though as I have a 73g Bontrager XXX :P
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001358329326.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.5bf71802DydbTr
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have two of those.....great.
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Cosy carbon saddle (https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1mF411K7w3) is here!
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Cosy carbon saddle (https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1mF411K7w3) is here!
Thanks SW!
I have one of the original versions of this branded "west biking" interested to try the newer version. Still trying to get the tilt/fore/aft just right but so far its pretty comfortable. I do get a bit of sliding around occasionally and it looks like this next version may fix that.
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Update on my EC90 saddle. 3rd ride, hit a pot hole at 50 km/h and the saddle cracked.
(https://i.ibb.co/D7RMZP2/20220806-151336.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RCD6qGw)
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Update on my EC90 saddle. 3rd ride, hit a pot hole at 50 km/h and the saddle cracked.
(https://i.ibb.co/D7RMZP2/20220806-151336.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RCD6qGw)
I thought that was a picture of mine.
Cracked in the exact same place under similar conditions.
Seems to be a weak spot for that saddle
My EC90 is relegated to the smart trainer now.
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I thought that was a picture of mine.
Cracked in the exact same place under similar conditions.
Seems to be a weak spot for that saddle
My EC90 is relegated to the smart trainer now.
Did you manage to get a new one from the seller?
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Did you manage to get a new one from the seller?
I’ve seen forum users have success getting a replacement.
I did not - AliExpress lesson learned on not buying from a third party vendor instead of an official storefront
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Just purchased this one. Hopefully it does not crack immediately.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2251832565564924.html
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Update on my EC90 saddle. 3rd ride, hit a pot hole at 50 km/h and the saddle cracked.
(https://i.ibb.co/D7RMZP2/20220806-151336.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RCD6qGw)
Wow! You must have some sharp seat bones ;)
And how are your wheels?
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Wow! You must have some sharp seat bones ;)
And how are your wheels?
I'll admit it was quite a hard hit. I'm happy to report that my Drive 50D survived and are well and true :D
Btw, here is the answer from the seller on ali
"I'm sorry, my friend, your purchase time is too long and has exceeded the protection period."
It ordered it on the 21 June....
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Update on my EC90 saddle. 3rd ride, hit a pot hole at 50 km/h and the saddle cracked.
(https://i.ibb.co/D7RMZP2/20220806-151336.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RCD6qGw)
My first EC90 also cracked in the same area. Was able to get a replacement from BALUGOE Bicycle Store after a lot of poking and going through AliX's vendor is not responding process https://www.aliexpress.com/store/2805087?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.21ef1802ZFOp3A Replacement saddle has been holding up, although I feel like I'm starting to see what could be the beginning of another crack in the same area again....
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Was somewhat skeptical at first but the carbon saddle from VB that I bought with the bike is the most comfortable I owned so far. Even compared too much more expensive saddles I bought in the past. Weight is just under 140 grams. Hope it will stay safe :D
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Was somewhat skeptical at first but the carbon saddle from VB that I bought with the bike is the most comfortable I owned so far. Even compared too much more expensive saddles I bought in the past. Weight is just under 140 grams. Hope it will stay safe :D
+1 for this being the most comfortable saddle. I had it and digges it as well. I really do think the build quality left to be a bit desired on mine and when I broke I opted for their other model that looks like a Selle SMP. Very good for mr as well
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Just ordered two Gub 1166:
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/2251832703854541.html?spm=a2g0n.order_detail.0.0.c7bff19c3ffyG5
Anyone else have success with this saddle?
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Update on my EC90 saddle. 3rd ride, hit a pot hole at 50 km/h and the saddle cracked.
(https://i.ibb.co/D7RMZP2/20220806-151336.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RCD6qGw)
The same just happened to me at even lower speed. I weight 71kg so it’s really sensitive.
While I’m sure I will get my cash back via the dispute function, no one is going to compensate me for the holes in my new bibs >:( >:( . I guess that’s the risk with these products, really annoying with the bibs.
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And just like that my replacement saddle has cracked in the same spot as the original one. Asking if I can get a replacement from a different batch, not sure if this will make a difference or not.
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And just like that my replacement saddle has cracked in the same spot as the original one. Asking if I can get a replacement from a different batch, not sure if this will make a difference or not.
I’m convinced it is a flaw in the design.
It feels like a case of: lightweight, cheap, durable. Pick two
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I’m convinced it is a flaw in the design.
It feels like a case of: lightweight, cheap, durable. Pick two
Or maybe the usual: happy ones do not complain.
I have them for years, multiple thousands km.
Broke the rails of one when learning nose pivot turns.
And another by hitting it with a sharp edge.
But it never failed like the two here.
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So after the above discussed ultralight saddle broke down, I got my money back and did what you shouldn’t do: buy an even lighter saddle:
CHF 18.85 30％ Off | Super-light Full Carbon Mountain Bicycle Saddle Road Bike saddle MTB Carbon Saddles Seat Racing cushion Matt 76g+/-5g
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPIsI84
Basically it’s 75g with perforations. You can get it without decal when asking for it via chat, which is what I got. I only got a few km on it. Let’s see when I hit the first pot hole.. or maybe before? Let’s gamble :P
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... I only got a few km on it. Let’s see when I hit the first pot hole.. or maybe before? Let’s gamble :P
It looks like the EC90 one with another cut out and sone holes.
You gave the saddle weight, but to gamble on it we need your weight too ;D
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Basically it’s 75g with perforations.
wow! Looking forward to hearing your feedback and wether the back cut out becomes uncomfortable somehow.
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It looks like the EC90 one with another cut out and sone holes.
You gave the saddle weight, but to gamble on it we need your weight too ;D
Thinking the exact same thing. To me it looks identical aside from the cut out in the back and perforations
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71kg ;D
The cut outs aren’t uncomfortable so far, but I’ll report back once I get some km on it.
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Dropped 143g by switching out the Selle Italia. $.31 per gram.
Will ride. Will crack. Bought two.
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What do you guys think about this saddle ?
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What do you guys think about this saddle ?
Nice! What are their width?
Any 120-130mm wide available?
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Nice! What are their width?
Any 120-130mm wide available?
Sorry only size 255x145mm available, they weigh around 130-135g, full carbon material wrapped inside
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+1 for this being the most comfortable saddle. I had it and digges it as well. I really do think the build quality left to be a bit desired on mine and when I broke I opted for their other model that looks like a Selle SMP. Very good for mr as well
Mine is similar to this one, without padding and 104gr.
I am riding currently on smart-trainer. I used to had problems with my other saddles after 40min on steady trainer sessions but with this one I had no problems after 80min.
But unfortunately could not test it outside yet. I hope it won't break while riding outside.. ;D
AliExpress link : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32751879676.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.409b1802hL1wn7 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32751879676.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.409b1802hL1wn7)
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Anyone have any info on this ThinkRider honeycomb saddle ~122g?
Seems pretty light considering the amount of padding. Also not completely sold on the 3D saddles I have another much heavier aliexpress one and the comfort is negligible however they do look pretty cool.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804395353052.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.67bd3a477ydUwQ&algo_pvid=c40ae2dd-9da1-49bd-b6b2-53d816afdce4&algo_exp_id=c40ae2dd-9da1-49bd-b6b2-53d816afdce4-35&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029727455836%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21250.28%21125.14%21%21%21%21%21%402132a26616643796559756824e88e6%2112000029727455836%21sea&curPageLogUid=HQgLxnQkpCBp
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I’ve never gone the bare carbon route with saddles. Prefer the ones with minimal padding though.
US $17.72 64％ Off | Carbon Fiber Road Mtb Saddle Use 3k T700 Carbon Material Pads Super Light Leather Cushions Ride Bicycles Seat
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMFQ0OU
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Anyone have any info on this ThinkRider honeycomb saddle ~122g?
This is light for the apparent volume.
At 163€ a pop, that's in branded saddles territory
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I just received a saddle from the MIXED store on AliX
Carbon with dense padding, 135g, really nice build quality and finish.
It's a 155mm for my wife, so I can't comment on ride quality....
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjDF4gEsHmY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= (https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjDF4gEsHmY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
Here is the store. Looks like they jumped on the 3D printed bandwagon too ($200CAD, ouch...)
mixed Cycling Official Store
https://m.aliexpress.com/store/v3/home.html?shopId=912654594&sellerId=2651162254&pagePath=index.htm&sellerAdminSeq=2651162254&srcSns=sns_Copy (http://Here is the store. Looks like they jumped on the 3D printed bandwagon too ($200CAD, ouch...)
mixed Cycling Official Store
https://m.aliexpress.com/store/v3/home.html?shopId=912654594&sellerId=2651162254&pagePath=index.htm&sellerAdminSeq=2651162254&srcSns=sns_Copy)
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I just received a saddle from the MIXED store on AliX
Carbon with dense padding, 135g, really nice build quality and finish.
These mixed saddles look promising, gonna pick up the 7D version. Thanks Sigma!
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Anyone have any info on this ThinkRider honeycomb saddle ~122g?
Seems pretty light considering the amount of padding. Also not completely sold on the 3D saddles I have another much heavier aliexpress one and the comfort is negligible however they do look pretty cool.
I think the money could be spent elsewhere for better weight saving. Sure it looks cool. But you are just paying for like what 20g over the standard "Padded" ones.
140g for $15 https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804534437825.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804534437825.html)
And the ultra light one is $33. Saved you $100 to spend on an upgraded cassette and crankset if you haven't bought them. WHich would save you a lot more weight. Or you could buy a number of saddles to try and find the one that works best for you. Anyways as a 3d printing Nerd. I wouldnt waste my money this is just a gimmick. I wonder is some one has made a saddle or the padding for us to print out?
I am sure I can design one. But I having tried to print tpu for the flex. here is an example. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5002056 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5002056)
I take it back its not a gimmick. Their is some losses. but I feel its not worth for the price. Maybe if you have deep pockets. and maybe if you were racing and maybe if you have done every thing else.
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I think the money could be spent elsewhere for better weight saving. Sure it looks cool. But you are just paying for like what 20g over the standard "Padded" ones.
140g for $15 https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804534437825.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804534437825.html)
I am sure I can design one. But I having tried to print tpu for the flex. here is an example. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5002056 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5002056)
Ended up ordering that Mixed saddle that Sigma posted. I agree that for the price the ThinkRider Honeycomb is probably not worth getting. Cool to see that people are 3D printing their own saddles!
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Ended up ordering that Mixed saddle that Sigma posted. I agree that for the price the ThinkRider Honeycomb is probably not worth getting. Cool to see that people are 3D printing their own saddles!
Its really cool. and if you get really into it you could custom make a saddle to fit you. Experiment. See what fits you best.
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Anyone else having issues with bibs getting scuffed with the bare carbon models with cut outs? My EC90s both seem have scuffed a few of my bibs (this is prior to them both cracking and tearing up bibs of course!). Looking for a replacement in the <100g range
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Anyone else having issues with bibs getting scuffed with the bare carbon models with cut outs? My EC90s both seem have scuffed a few of my bibs (this is prior to them both cracking and tearing up bibs of course!). Looking for a replacement in the <100g range
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPxQcO8 (https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPxQcO8)
So far so good with this one. Sub-90g. No sharp edges. no cracks.
I wish it were a bit narrower, but it doesn’t bother me now.
About 1,500km on it so far
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any recommendations for extremely narrow saddles? I have a selle italia BOOST SLR , 143mm width, but it catches my thigh on the downstroke.
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any recommendations for extremely narrow saddles? I have a selle italia BOOST SLR , 143mm width, but it catches my thigh on the downstroke.
I own two carbon narrow saddles myself:
Dengfu S001 (full carbon, no padding) 128mm - 102g
https://www.dengfubike.com/collections/carbon-saddle/products/sd001
(https://www.dengfubike.com/collections/carbon-saddle/products/sd001)
Prime Primavera (padding, oversized carbon rails) 128mm - 140g
https://www.wiggle.com/prime-primavera-carbon-saddle (https://www.wiggle.com/prime-primavera-carbon-saddle)
I originally paid $50 for the Dengfu saddle when I bought my R12 frameset last year. Price has gone up to $75 now and I'm sure you could negotiate. Yes the Prime saddle is reaching name-brand pricing but I have yet to find the AliEx equivalent online, and some folks prefer a more durable saddle over a full carbon variant.
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https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255801015979296.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255801015979296.html)
I just received this saddle from AliExpress. About $22 USD with free shipping. Other sellers have the same saddle, but this seller shipped quickly (arrived in about a week). I was originally planning to use this for my recent build, but it arrived late. This particular saddle is a tad short, but the sides curve down gently which seems more forgiving for those cyclists with thicc thighs or big a$$. Also the rear slants up allowing you to push your butt against it when going aero. The shorter saddle also has more space to maneuver if you like going super aero tuck. There's a slight texture to the finish and the quality is okay, but not worth showing off.
I'll report back when I get more ride time with it.
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https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255801015979296.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255801015979296.html)
I just received this saddle from AliExpress. About $22 USD with free shipping. Other sellers have the same saddle, but this seller shipped quickly (arrived in about a week). I was originally planning to use this for my recent build, but it arrived late. This particular saddle is a tad short, but the sides curve down gently which seems more forgiving for those cyclists with thicc thighs or big a$$. Also the rear slants up allowing you to push your butt against it when going aero. The shorter saddle also has more space to maneuver if you like going super aero tuck. There's a slight texture to the finish and the quality is okay, but not worth showing off.
I'll report back when I get more ride time with it.
As a cyclist with those thickkkkk thighs, I appreciate the review.
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As a cyclist with those thickkkkk thighs, I appreciate the review.
What do you think for some of us with junk in the trunk. I Wish I had more.
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Anyone use a power saddle replica from AliExpress? I have 3 drop bar bikes and I think it’s time to break up with my Fizik Airone saddles.
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Anyone use a power saddle replica from AliExpress? I have 3 drop bar bikes and I think it’s time to break up with my Fizik Airone saddles.
Patrick Lino did some reviews regarding that one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiTe1iVBjTw
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This is promising, I think I want to get 3 of these:
Bicycle Saddle Ultralight Carbon Fiber Hollow Comfortable Breathable MTB Gravel Road bike Cycling Seat Parts
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMzpfBa
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Best $69 I’ve spent from Ali Express.
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Best $69 I’ve spent from Ali Express.
Just wanted to say you are KILLING it with the reviews! Nero show constantly mentions you!
Have you ever had to use the returns at all? 15 day free return, but I imagine you pay for shipping back?
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Just wanted to say you are KILLING it with the reviews! Nero show constantly mentions you!
Have you ever had to use the returns at all? 15 day free return, but I imagine you pay for shipping back?
Thank you! - I havent used AliX returns before. Everything I purchase from there is cheap enough that I'm okay risking a full loss if something goes wrong. Same reason I don't insure any of my bikes. :-X
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Have you ever had to use the returns at all? 15 day free return, but I imagine you pay for shipping back?
As an EU customer I used it two times. No problems. It takes a bit, and sellers will try to find a way that you cancel the process. But if you stick to the prices it will work at the end.
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As an EU customer I used it two times. No problems. It takes a bit, and sellers will try to find a way that you cancel the process. But if you stick to the prices it will work at the end.
Thanks Easyfunk; but shipping is on you correct?
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I've completely switched to 3D printed mesh saddles. I shift my saddle position based on either climbing or sprinting and the minimal friction from the mesh design helps. Also living in year-round riding weather, the saddles don't absorb heat staying cool even on the hottest of days.
I've been able to return items that have 15 day free returns. In the US, items get shipped back to a domestic warehouse. AliExpress then refunded my money once delivery was confirmed. For US customers, double check the return label though. The online system will say USPS, but the label will be UPS! I accidentally dropped my return to USPS. The item sat for 4 days, but luckily I was able to retrieve my package because my local PO was just holding it and I asked for my package back so I could drop it off at the UPS Store.
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Thanks Easyfunk; but shipping is on you correct?
Not really, no. If it comes with a free-return option, here (EU, Germany) it really means just that - free as in no cost, return shipping is covered.
I've used it, too. You start the return/refund process and get a free return slip just seconds or minutes later, print, stick it to the return parcel and off you go to whichever shipping vendor is on the label. After that, it's just waiting. Ali will somewhat monitor tracking info and inform you when the thing is back at the warehouse. In my case, after the return shipment arrived, I was told Ali stepped in and issued a refund (I don't know if it really means what it suggests (that the seller didn't accept it and had to be forced)) or if that is just the same message you always get at that point regardless. Still got my money back, which is what matters.
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Thanks Easyfunk; but shipping is on you correct?
No, it was free in both cases.
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There is a new model of the 80-90g full carbon saddle.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003923285995.html
The previous available came with a 1.45mm carbon sheet, while this new one is 1.75mm
Probably less prone to cracking than the previous one.
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in your opinion which saddle will you recommend the ryet 3d or the bucklos 3d
Ryet
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005006280185395.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.71d82fcfclTTmb&algo_pvid=962e4bc4-237f-4956-bca5-597c980849e7&algo_exp_id=962e4bc4-237f-4956-bca5-597c980849e7-1&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2193.88%2139.43%21%21%21101.59%21%21%402103896117039629353905090e6987%2112000036591699010%21sea%21FR%21777550326%21&curPageLogUid=qFlV3hDT5QRK (https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005006280185395.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.71d82fcfclTTmb&algo_pvid=962e4bc4-237f-4956-bca5-597c980849e7&algo_exp_id=962e4bc4-237f-4956-bca5-597c980849e7-1&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2193.88%2139.43%21%21%21101.59%21%21%402103896117039629353905090e6987%2112000036591699010%21sea%21FR%21777550326%21&curPageLogUid=qFlV3hDT5QRK)
Bucklos
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005697983203.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_topSellerIng.8148356.35.37553f20vrKxKG&gatewayAdapt=glo2esp4itemAdapt&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.slider_2007109271794.1 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005697983203.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_topSellerIng.8148356.35.37553f20vrKxKG&gatewayAdapt=glo2esp4itemAdapt&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.slider_2007109271794.1)
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I'm running three of those RYET Air code saddles. Super comfy, and no sign of cracking or any type of failure. I have d two carbon based saddles and one plastic base. All good, although I wish they were a bit more narrow. I believe RYET does a narrower version.
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Anyone find a knockout of Power Arc saddle?
I know there is thousand of Power version on Ali but I struggle to find the Arc model
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I have this one with the carbon base, I got it when it was pretty new and paid more for it than it sells for now. It's honestly the most comfortable saddle I've ever had.
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dlkone5
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Out of curiosity I just and 3d printed saddles are now available on Amazon. A bit more expensive than Ali of course, but I can have it in 3 days and easily return if necessary.
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I have this one with the carbon base, I got it when it was pretty new and paid more for it than it sells for now. It's honestly the most comfortable saddle I've ever had.
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dlkone5
I have that one but I find the nose too wide for me. It is causing chafing and wearing of my shorts. Other than that I do like it tho.
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Thanks Easyfunk; but shipping is on you correct?
I returned two faulty products and return label was provided free to me by the customer care. It was however a return to a USA address and not China.
Out of curiosity I just and 3d printed saddles are now available on Amazon. A bit more expensive than Ali of course, but I can have it in 3 days and easily return if necessary.
I am noticing there's a bunch of products now on Amazon (at double the cost) that were only available on Aliex earlier. However some of those are same price or even cheaper than on Aliex e.g. you can regularly find RXL handlebars and OSPWs on the cheap on Amazon with free returns and 3 day shipping. Same for Superteam wheels too.
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I believe RYET does a narrower version.
I could find one with 135mm width, but not even on the Lexon Store:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGk12oF
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I could find one with 135mm width, but not even on the Lexon Store:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGk12oF
Did you order it ?
It is confusing if it is 135 or 140mm.
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There is a new model of the 80-90g full carbon saddle.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003923285995.html
The previous available came with a 1.45mm carbon sheet, while this new one is 1.75mm
Probably less prone to cracking than the previous one.
This saddle is painful. Look at those hard edges. They need to rethink the shape. I have an old one collecting dust in a drawer.
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Did you order it ?
It is confusing if it is 135 or 140mm.
I have this saddle and can confirm that it is 135mm at the widest point. I find the saddle comfortable despite the padding being on the thin side especially on the nose. Much more comfortable then my SelleItalia SLR Kit Carbonio. Tested it for around 1000 km with the longest ride being 150 km and 2500m climbing and no issues. No numbing no digging in of the saddle in the soft parts as the Selle did. Very happy with it.