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29er / Re: New Lexon spirit
« on: May 11, 2023, 01:57:00 PM »
I ordered one too. I typically do the same as Mathesonmd and build a couple a year. I am going to try out the new SRAM T-type drivetrain on this one.

How do you mount the T-type derailleur, is it UDH hanger on the frame?

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29er / Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
« on: January 24, 2023, 04:44:51 AM »
Had any more experience with this frame now that you can share with us?

I see that you have painted the frame self, can you talk me thru the process? Finish good, cans or spray?
I see that every frame is black matt when we order it, do we need to specify unpainted when we order it or is this "coat" something that every frame has/need anyway?

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29er / Re: XC full suspension frame
« on: January 23, 2023, 02:12:35 AM »
IMHO even with 34T you will get quite low AS numbers, so no idea why do you want 36T or even 38T so badly with newer FS frame.
Old Scott Spark was designed with 2x in mind and has higher pivot point from what I see. New Orbea Oiz is optimized for larger front chainring AFAIK.
But I might be wrong ofc and there's always lockout possible.

Your opinion noted, but that doesn't answer the questions in topic...

Scott Spark RC from 2017 is optimized to exclusively work with 1x drivetrains, the non RC models was compatible with 2x drivetrains.

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29er / Re: XC full suspension frame
« on: January 22, 2023, 07:14:54 AM »
I couldn't imagine needing anything higher than 34/9t.. that's on par with the gearing that Nino uses (38/10t). 34/9 gets you 32.5mph at 100rpm cadence, I couldn't imagine anyone (other than Nino lol) having the power to push faster than that, and if the downhill is steep enough you just shouldn't be pedaling.

In marathon it is a lot of gravel riding in groups, maybe the courses are different in my country. The pro riders uses hybrid between gravelbikes and MTB on the fastest courses...
But anyway, I use 36T chainring and 9T cassette on my Scott RC(original) bike now, and love to have the same opportunity if I build a new bike.

Lexon have this opportunity on both Spirit and Titan, but I don't know if I dear to try the 2023 Spirit. And the Titan has to much head tube angel(69).

Is there someone that has any experience with the newest 2023 Spirit?

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Vendor Discussion & Reviews / xmcarbonspeed and Peter
« on: January 21, 2023, 04:22:52 AM »
What happened to xmcarbonspeed and Peter, is it closed?

I need spareparts for my CS-FS29 suspension and CS-197 fatbike frames, is there any other suppliers for this frames?

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29er / Re: XC full suspension frame
« on: January 21, 2023, 04:01:06 AM »
Keep in mind that the FM936 geometry is significantly different than previous gen Spark.  I do think the FM936 is the perfect marathon bike, but if you're after more traditional XC geo, then it's not it.  I've got an LCFS911 Spark copy, however it doesn't support over 34t chainring.  I'm switching to an FM936 this year though, longer and slacker without gaining any weight.  Have you considered a cassette with a 9t small cog rather than sticking with 36t chainring?

Lexon is hit or miss, but if they are a miss, you will have no support.  I got burned by them on a gravel frame that was horrible quality.  Their MTB frames do seem to get better reviews, maybe they come out of a different factory, but again if there's an issue, they will not accept responsibility and will not help.

You are right, I had not studied the geometry enough. Maybe this is more like the new Spark, that's okey also. Think the cabel routing is a bit strange, what do you think about this?
I already have cassette changed to 9T, but still need the opportunity to use 36T chainring for marathon...

Is there another distributor that sell the frames Lexon uses?

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29er / Re: XC full suspension frame
« on: January 21, 2023, 03:26:18 AM »

What makes the FM936 better than the FM909? The geometry looks very similar but the FM936 has a very long seat tube in the larger sizes. Is the suspension design for the FM936 that much better?

Probably not, but I just want the look of this suspension design ;)

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29er / Re: XC full suspension frame
« on: January 20, 2023, 08:56:23 AM »
Buy a Carbonda FM936 of FM909. Put whatever chainring on it you like. I won't tell anybody if you don't. Maybe need a chainring with a spacer to clear the chainstays. Maybe not.

FM909 is wrong design, FM936 is promising :D
"Put whatever chainring on it you like. I won't tell anybody if you don't. Maybe need a chainring with a spacer to clear the chainstays. Maybe not." doesn't make any sense to me, "won't tell anybody"? I used 36T chainring with 0mm offset on my old bike, but the chainline will not be perfect any more...

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29er / XC full suspension frame
« on: January 20, 2023, 08:11:58 AM »
Want to replace my old bike from Carbon Speed, CS-FS29. Main reason because it is not boost, and max 34T chainring, also try to build under 10kg this time(this is 10,2kg).
I'm looking for a frame for XC maraton with full suspension(light as possible) and same geometri as Scott Spark RC 2017-2021. The problem is to find a frame that can fit a 36T chainring, almost everyone have 34T max.
I'd love to build the new design for Scott Spark 2022 from Lexon, but I want to wait for next generation when all the faults are solved(or is the new 2023 version good enought?).

The onlyone I have found is the old frame from Lexon, do you have some thoughts about this? :
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004296485032.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.752e6325VDJFeI&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=37c33821-53d3-4bfb-b911-8bf4f9c62b88&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.291025.0,pvid:37c33821-53d3-4bfb-b911-8bf4f9c62b88,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238116%232002&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000028667834609%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%223339%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21NOK%2111174.31%216145.87%21%21%21%21%21%402103309d16742201601122373eaee6%2112000028667834609%21rec

I see they have name "Lexon Myst Pro" and the "Titan race edition", are they identical?

Some other choices, are there other companies with a better reputation that sell the same frame?


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29er / Re: New Lexon spirit
« on: January 16, 2023, 07:47:04 AM »

                                                                                                                                                 
  Well, for all y'all waiting for that guy to take one for the team, you're in luck, I expect mine at the end of the month.  It will be a 19" with the Deluxe Select + and that rather tasteful Spirit paint theme.  Before ordering, I searched and translated the sparse user reviews and opinions, including from this forum.  All the Scott Spark, and other Scott models employing the same shock arrangement are selling well, perhaps this is why Scott was not entertaining any requests from me to buy a Spark 910 frame only.  What follows are the reasons I decided to toss the dice:

1)  I will not be flogging the bike as hard as some.  I'm going on 68, and mostly ride loamy forest singletracks, albeit briskly for me.  Primary goal is to soften the shock loads to my feet and knees.  I'm looking for a short to mid-travel, full-sprung frame upgrade over my Scott Scale 950 XC hardtail converted ebike. 
2)  The Spirit frame is the cats meow for DIY ebike builders as the frame has an open triangle which facilitates the easy installation of larger, all-day battery packs.  This battery mounting issue is a major challenge for mid drive ebike builders, and leads to some real sh%tty looking builds with insufficient range. 
3)  The best review I found was a Brazilian YouTuber.  He takes that thing on some pretty extreme tracks, and he seems pleased with revised shock linkage parts sent to him by Lexon.  Shame on the manufacturer to release a damn useful frame but then use their customers for beta testing.  In my eyes, supplying revised parts does wash away some of their shame and may keep the project a viable business venture for them.  Or at least keep it alive to make it to the next design fiasco... or the possible patent infringement suit from Scott.  I have some ideas on how to mitigate the shocks air fill port.
4)  Thailand is on favored nation trading status with China, so low shipping and duty, I'm at USD 1,075 with shipping but before duty. 

I'll be running the Ryet UD CF asymmetric rim 29er wheels with Schwalbe 2.4" Wicked Will's, definitely recommend these bargain wheels, been flogging a set hard daily for nearly a year, popped in one new rear bearing.  $287.++ for the pair.  Bike will likely be running the lightweight CYC Photon motor eventually, but will initially be built with a Bafang BBSHD.  Wish me luck!

Got it yet?

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29er / Re: Suspension 29", which frame?
« on: July 13, 2016, 02:42:09 PM »
I bought Titan 29SL, and not the "X-model" from Carbonal, that's the XC version. I hope it will be good, 10-days to shipping :)
Anyone else who has this frame?
http://www.carbonalbike.com/super-29er-full-suspension-mtb-frame-xc-racing-mountain-bike-carbon-frame-1750g-titan-29-sl.html

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29er / Suspension 29", which frame?
« on: June 27, 2016, 04:09:46 PM »
Want a light XC frame, 036 is to heavy. Is there any other good alternative?
Have anybody tried CFM035 from carbonbikekits? http://www.carbonbikekits.com/frames/CFM035_29er_MTB_Full_Carbon_Suspension_Frame-en.html

Thomas

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