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Re: Need advice before purchasing so they are full fledged mountain bikes.  so i am going on 8 years on various carbon frames and i have had zero issues.  the biggest things that will destroy them is using them outside their intended application.  so if the stuff you do in the city resembles the landings and impacts that one would see on a mountain bike trail then yes they will be fine.   if you are trying to be in the next CKY video, then you will probably brake it.  carbon does not take frame impacts well.  not to say they are fragile but if you land hard on the frame tube directly you will probably break them.  always remember wheels hit the ground first.  the wheels would probably be the first thing to fail though if you are riding in a city aggressively.  all the Youtube videos of ally cat racing and bike messenger stuff can all easily be done on a Chinese frame.  especially if you go mountain bike frame.  i have a rigid SS bike that has taken years of abuse with no issues.     
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