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Title: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: mrdawson on October 06, 2022, 03:06:35 PM
 Any real reviews on these? The latest versions. Not the version reviewed by tracevelo a little while back.  Interested as possible replacements for both the gravel and road bikes.  See plenty of reviews commenting on the weight / looks, not really any on actual function.
Thanks
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: 00Garza on October 06, 2022, 03:36:17 PM
Are there any differences claimed in the latest version that would make them worthwhile?
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Pedaldancer on October 06, 2022, 03:53:24 PM
Any real reviews on these? The latest versions. Not the version reviewed by tracevelo a little while back.  Interested as possible replacements for both the gravel and road bikes.  See plenty of reviews commenting on the weight / looks, not really any on actual function.
Thanks

If you tell me how ro recognize the version.. I could check which version I have. Riding since 1400km now, shifting is very fine, everything else looks as new. But I would expect that, frankly.. 1400km is not to much.

There is just one thing I didn't think about... golden cassette means cleaning every ride  ;D
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: mrdawson on October 06, 2022, 04:05:38 PM
If you tell me how ro recognize the version.. I could check which version I have. Riding since 1400km now, shifting is very fine, everything else looks as new. But I would expect that, frankly.. 1400km is not to much.

There is just one thing I didn't think about... golden cassette means cleaning every ride  ;D

the ones that look like these, with the black metal backing plate.

also, which groupset are you using with it?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003777090540.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.6ef51f66oQ37MO&algo_pvid=e543eee4-b26b-408e-b9cb-14337c4dbe49&algo_exp_id=e543eee4-b26b-408e-b9cb-14337c4dbe49-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000027129859683%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21CAD%21207.23%21145.06%21%21%21%21%21%402101d8b516650812291874681e9afb%2112000027129859683%21sea&curPageLogUid=GJuoGSZR6V3m
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Pedaldancer on October 06, 2022, 06:30:46 PM
the ones that look like these, with the black metal backing plate.

also, which groupset are you using with it?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003777090540.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.6ef51f66oQ37MO&algo_pvid=e543eee4-b26b-408e-b9cb-14337c4dbe49&algo_exp_id=e543eee4-b26b-408e-b9cb-14337c4dbe49-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000027129859683%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21CAD%21207.23%21145.06%21%21%21%21%21%402101d8b516650812291874681e9afb%2112000027129859683%21sea&curPageLogUid=GJuoGSZR6V3m
I guess it's the version you are asking for.. it's black.

€ 105,07  26%OFF | SRoad SLR2 Cassette Ultralight 11 Speed 11-25/28/32/34T CNC Bike Freewheel K7 11V Sprocket For R9100 Bicycle RAINBOW Cassette
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGPODxz

I use complete mechanic Shimano Ultegra 2x11 setup with 8020 STI, front derailleur and GS rear derailleur with 11-32 cassette. Shifting is as I said very smooth and fast. It was a bit tight to mount on my novatec freehub but I already removed it once for free hub exchange (so no issue with the fitting, just my freehub died).

And also di2 Ultegra  (but this cassette only travelled 300km so far) with 11-34 cassette. Here it is quite interesting to note, that the 11-34 sroad does not use a spacer as the Shimano 11-34 does. So it will only fit to 11s road freehubs.
I have to admit I was critical about a cassette from China. But since 11-34 is not available  almost since 2 years now... I think it's a very nice alternative. Also the colors are hot.... golden and rainbow look both very nice
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: mrdawson on October 06, 2022, 09:21:38 PM
I guess it's the version you are asking for.. it's black.

€ 105,07  26%OFF | SRoad SLR2 Cassette Ultralight 11 Speed 11-25/28/32/34T CNC Bike Freewheel K7 11V Sprocket For R9100 Bicycle RAINBOW Cassette
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGPODxz

I use complete mechanic Shimano Ultegra 2x11 setup with 8020 STI, front derailleur and GS rear derailleur with 11-32 cassette. Shifting is as I said very smooth and fast. It was a bit tight to mount on my novatec freehub but I already removed it once for free hub exchange (so no issue with the fitting, just my freehub died).

And also di2 Ultegra  (but this cassette only travelled 300km so far) with 11-34 cassette. Here it is quite interesting to note, that the 11-34 sroad does not use a spacer as the Shimano 11-34 does. So it will only fit to 11s road freehubs.
I have to admit I was critical about a cassette from China. But since 11-34 is not available  almost since 2 years now... I think it's a very nice alternative. Also the colors are hot.... golden and rainbow look both very nice

Thanks for the info.  I had tried a prior version like the one tracevelo had tried.  Similar results.  It was absolute crap.
These newer ones look much better but I've only seen very few people comment on actual use.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: 00Garza on October 06, 2022, 10:26:10 PM
I guess it's the version you are asking for.. it's black.

€ 105,07  26%OFF | SRoad SLR2 Cassette Ultralight 11 Speed 11-25/28/32/34T CNC Bike Freewheel K7 11V Sprocket For R9100 Bicycle RAINBOW Cassette
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGPODxz


The teeth profile on the small sprockets does look improved on this one. Nice to know they’re willing to improve their product.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Pedaldancer on October 07, 2022, 04:10:42 AM
Thanks for the info.  I had tried a prior version like the one tracevelo had tried.  Similar results.  It was absolute crap.
These newer ones look much better but I've only seen very few people comment on actual use.

You're welcome  :)
So with the older cassette the shifting got bad very early for you?
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: mrdawson on October 07, 2022, 09:07:16 AM
yes. they were basically unusable from new.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Pedaldancer on October 07, 2022, 09:43:22 AM
yes. they were basically unusable from new.

Oops..
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jfcb on October 08, 2022, 02:06:34 PM
the road cassettes (i.e. up to 34t) are fine and durable. With the gravel/mtb gearing-like cassettes, the small teeth break/bend very easily.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: mrdawson on October 08, 2022, 04:39:58 PM
the road cassettes (i.e. up to 34t) are fine and durable. With the gravel/mtb gearing-like cassettes, the small teeth break/bend very easily.

pictures of this?
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: OlieSimpson on October 09, 2022, 12:10:41 PM
I've got an 11-28 SROAD SLR2 cassette in black that is used with Shimano 105 mechanical derailleur and shifters. Put around 6,000km's on it so far and it's been flawless. Shifting is fantastic and it's super light. Would highly recommend them.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Sebastian on November 04, 2022, 03:01:10 AM
Can someone confirm whether or not these cassettes have a continuous/uninterrupted spline profile where they slide onto the freehub? Because that should minimize bite marks on lightweight aluminium freehubs. If yes, I'm interested.

Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Sebastian on June 09, 2023, 12:31:17 AM
Quick update for everyone eyeing these cassettes:

I've been riding two of these for the last 6 months.
I ordered an 11sp 11-32 cassette with grey finish that I used on my steel roadie with Campagnolo Chorus. It has been flawless. No issues. Being a one piece unit, it transfers more noise to deep carbon wheelsets. So your drivetrain can seem noisier at times, if that concerns you.

On my VB 218 I put on another one of these, this time a 12sp 11-32 cassette. They only had it in stock in rainbow finish. I ordered it regardless. Again, it's very well finished. BUT after just two rides it developed a creaking sound. I narrowed it down to the black aluminium spider that the steel cogs are riveted to. There is some slight play in there, so you can rock it slightly back and forth on the spider. So particularly on the big cogs of the cassette under high torque (i.e. when climbing) I got a very loud creaking. It probably doesn't affect the functionality. Time will tell how durable the thing is.
I took the cassette off, cleaned it and put some Loctite on all the riveted interface areas between the spider and the cogs. I let it dry for a night and did another ride yesterday. Now it's quiet. Let's see for how long.
You could probably also just grease it every now and then. But I'm using wax on my drivetrain and didn't want to introduce oil or grease to my drivetrain.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: hwpaints on June 10, 2023, 02:15:37 PM
i use the mtb ultra light 10/50 xd cassettes for 3 years now on 2 bikes, works very good i can 8000km with 2 chains kmc hole year wet and dirt.

only the price going sky high for this cassettes now 175€ but stil half price of sram xx1
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: dsveddy on June 14, 2023, 08:10:31 AM
I've bought 3 cassettes from SROAD, all shimano-lockring style, I believe the old design, and honestly had a fine time with them.

I run an 11s/11-32 on my road bike, 11s/10-42 on my commuter bike, and 10s/11-36 on my cross bike. I've run them with mechanical SRAM road, 1x-road/gravel, and MTB derailleurs, as well as LTWOO's R9 derailleur, and a Shimano Ultegra R8000 rear derailleur. They all do fine.

They do NOT shift as nice as Shimano. They are loud, and are more prone to rough shifts. But they have been seriously ok. No breaking of teeth. The shifts happen, and they are smooth enough for me. On my road bike I've had the occasional "slippery" shift when my rear derailleur wasn't set up right, but that's the worst of it.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Sebastian on July 26, 2023, 02:06:19 AM
Update on my creaking 12sp cassette - more than 1000km later, the creaking still hasn't returned since I put thread lock on the interface between the spider and the cogs. So fingers crossed that I fixed the issue. Still, it seems that this interface, where the cogs are riveted to the spider can be a weak spot.

As for shifting and wear - it's been good. Not in any way inferior to cassettes from Shimano/Sram/Campag that I've been using in the past. The rainbow finish still looks like new.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jonathanf2 on July 27, 2023, 10:17:08 AM
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804609644012.html? (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804609644012.html?)

I remember seeing more sizes for the SRoad MTB cassettes. Now I can only find 11-42t on AliEx. I'm thinking of increasing cassette size on my 1x road bike, but I was hoping to stay 11-40t. Now I can't seem to find those other sizes. If not, I'll probably end up sticking with a Shimano XT cassette, but the weight penalty will be another 100g.

I seriously hate AliExpress' search function. It's useless!
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jcr on July 27, 2023, 10:37:56 AM
I've picked up an 11s 11-28 cassette and had issues with it. Couldn't get it to shift cleanly and it was very noisy. Also the lightweight lockring being aluminum seem to strip like cheese when I try to torque it correctly. Went back to my 105 cassette and no issues with the shifting or lockring.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Sebastian on July 28, 2023, 04:31:55 AM
I've picked up an 11s 11-28 cassette and had issues with it. Couldn't get it to shift cleanly and it was very noisy. Also the lightweight lockring being aluminum seem to strip like cheese when I try to torque it correctly. Went back to my 105 cassette and no issues with the shifting or lockring.

What drivetrain did you pair it with? These cassettes are known to shift badly with Shimano's newer derailleurs bc these rely heavily on Shimano's own cassette/cog design with very specific ramps. Trace Velo did a video about it.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jcr on July 28, 2023, 08:23:14 AM
What drivetrain did you pair it with? These cassettes are known to shift badly with Shimano's newer derailleurs bc these rely heavily on Shimano's own cassette/cog design with very specific ramps. Trace Velo did a video about it.

Using the Sensah Empire 11 speed..... thought that is supposed to be compatible but somehow I cannot get it to play nicely.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Pedaldancer on July 28, 2023, 06:52:58 PM
What drivetrain did you pair it with? These cassettes are known to shift badly with Shimano's newer derailleurs bc these rely heavily on Shimano's own cassette/cog design with very specific ramps. Trace Velo did a video about it.

Well.... i have two rear derailleurs from the 8000 Ultegra line. One mechanic, one di2. So the newest 11 speed derailleur.
My 11-34 and 11-32 Sroad cassettes are working perfectly on both of them. Since 2500 and 3000km.
I would strongly doubt that the interpretation from trace velo is correct.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Sebastian on July 29, 2023, 12:59:30 AM
Well.... i have two rear derailleurs from the 8000 Ultegra line. One mechanic, one di2. So the newest 11 speed derailleur.
My 11-34 and 11-32 Sroad cassettes are working perfectly on both of them. Since 2500 and 3000km.
I would strongly doubt that the interpretation from trace velo is correct.

That’s good to know, indeed. Thx for sharing.
For what it’s worth: I’ve been using both the 11 and the 12sp version of these cassettes with three different Campagnolo drivetrains. They’ve been working flawless with each one of them.
The 12sp cassette however I did have to put a small spacer behind. My rear wheel uses j bend spokes in a Novatec hub. So these protrude a tiny bit further towards the DS from the hub shell. That was enough to make the cassette spider touch the spokes when I put it on the freehub without a spacer. I think on a hub with straight pull spokes, I’d have no such issue.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Pedaldancer on July 29, 2023, 01:08:45 PM
That’s good to know, indeed. Thx for sharing.
For what it’s worth: I’ve been using both the 11 and the 12sp version of these cassettes with three different Campagnolo drivetrains. They’ve been working flawless with each one of them.
The 12sp cassette however I did have to put a small spacer behind. My rear wheel uses j bend spokes in a Novatec hub. So these protrude a tiny bit further towards the DS from the hub shell. That was enough to make the cassette spider touch the spokes when I put it on the freehub without a spacer. I think on a hub with straight pull spokes, I’d have no such issue.

Oh well that sounds very likely to happen, good that i only ride straight pull..  ;D
But the shifting of the cassette is fine ?
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jonathanf2 on July 30, 2023, 11:56:33 AM
Using the Sensah Empire 11 speed..... thought that is supposed to be compatible but somehow I cannot get it to play nicely.

I find chain selection can make a difference in shift performance on these aftermarket cassettes. I've also resorted to using 12 speed chains on 11 speed drivetrains. More wiggle room between cogs and depending on the chain, smoother/quieter shifting.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Sebastian on July 31, 2023, 03:52:37 AM
Oh well that sounds very likely to happen, good that i only ride straight pull..  ;D
But the shifting of the cassette is fine ?

Shifting is fine, yes. No difference to any other cassette. I haven’t used other 12sp cassettes but I compared the 11sp cassette to others from Shimano, Campagnolo and Sunrace. No difference at all. Monobloc cassettes do however transfer more noise IME, like I wrote in an earlier post. The drivetrain definitely is louder with these cassettes, particularly when combined with very deep carbon wheels.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jonathanf2 on August 07, 2023, 01:22:20 PM
Are these SRoad cassettes worth it? I've read issues with the alloy spider by the rivets being a weak point. The Lexon store on AliEx, has them on discount, but for not much more I can just pick up an Ultegra / 105 11 speed cassette with proven durability.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: bremerradkurier on August 07, 2023, 02:22:15 PM
This steel monobloc cassette in 11 speed 11-28 Shimano HG has decent reviews on Weight Weenies-more expensive, but the freehub interface looks a lot stronger than Sroad's.

https://bdopcycling.com/product/bdop-steel-cassette-shimano-sram-11spd-11-28t/ (https://bdopcycling.com/product/bdop-steel-cassette-shimano-sram-11spd-11-28t/)
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: OlieSimpson on August 07, 2023, 02:40:41 PM
Are these SRoad cassettes worth it? I've read issues with the alloy spider by the rivets being a weak point. The Lexon store on AliEx, has them on discount, but for not much more I can just pick up an Ultegra / 105 11 speed cassette with proven durability.

I've used my black SRoad 11-28 cassette for roughly 6,500km's with zero issues and have had great shifting (paired with Shimano R7000 shifters and derailleur and Ultegra CN-HG701-11 chain). I wouldn't say durability is an issue from my experience.

I'm actually going to pick a second one up (11-32) whilst they're on offer at Lexon.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Sebastian on August 08, 2023, 02:15:00 AM
Are these SRoad cassettes worth it? I've read issues with the alloy spider by the rivets being a weak point. The Lexon store on AliEx, has them on discount, but for not much more I can just pick up an Ultegra / 105 11 speed cassette with proven durability.

As I wrote earlier, you might or might not get a unit with issues. I got an 11sp one that works flawlessly. And I'd certainly buy one again, especially for the discounted price. The 12sp one I got did creak where the aluminium spider meets the steel part of the cassette. After applying some adhesive it's been quiet for more than 2000km now. Shifting is no different from any other cassette. Wear is minimal for me. So the steel seems to be of decent enough quality. Based on my experience, I'd probably buy one again.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jonathanf2 on August 18, 2023, 11:51:58 AM
I received my SROAD rainbow 11-32 cassette from the Lexon store yesterday and I installed it this morning. The one piece design was a pain to install on my freehub even with grease. I had to bust out the rubber mallet to get it into place. If I ever take it off, it's going to be a hassle. Shifting seems to be fine, not much different than the Shimano cassette I had on previously. The most noticeable part is the noise it makes. It sounds like a rickety tin can as opposed to a precision mechanical instrument. The next cassette I get will probably be Ultegra. Even if it weighs more, there aren't any weird fitment or noise issues. S**t just works!

Honestly I'm starting to lean towards just using Shimano/SRAM groupsets, Chinese carbon frames/wheels/components and swapping out to shiny titanium screws for that extra bit of weight cutting. I'm thinking that's where the best bang-for-buck performance is when it comes to building your own bikes.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: coffeebreak on August 18, 2023, 12:32:32 PM
I had to bust out the rubber mallet to get it into place. If I ever take it off, it's going to be a hassle.

Dude why?! It IS going to be a hassle. Hope you don't love that wheelset much lol.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jonathanf2 on August 18, 2023, 01:06:43 PM
Dude why?! It IS going to be a hassle. Hope you don't love that wheelset much lol.

I wasn't pounding it, more like gentle taps! Once on the free hub I was able to slide it up and down, it's just really snug. I'm going to test it out in a bit and see how it rides.

Update: I took SRoad cassette for a 25 mile break-in ride. On the road, noise wasn't as noticeable and shifting was the about the same as my Shimano cassettes. Honestly I don't know if the reduced weight makes a big difference, but pedaling seemed responsive.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Pedaldancer on August 20, 2023, 04:29:22 AM
I received my SROAD rainbow 11-32 cassette from the Lexon store yesterday and I installed it this morning. The one piece design was a pain to install on my freehub even with grease. I had to bust out the rubber mallet to get it into place. If I ever take it off, it's going to be a hassle. Shifting seems to be fine, not much different than the Shimano cassette I had on previously. The most noticeable part is the noise it makes. It sounds like a rickety tin can as opposed to a precision mechanical instrument. The next cassette I get will probably be Ultegra. Even if it weighs more, there aren't any weird fitment or noise issues. S**t just works!

Honestly I'm starting to lean towards just using Shimano/SRAM groupsets, Chinese carbon frames/wheels/components and swapping out to shiny titanium screws for that extra bit of weight cutting. I'm thinking that's where the best bang-for-buck performance is when it comes to building your own bikes.

What kind of noise do you mean?
I heard that the lock ring can be the reason for squealing. That's why I just took my ultegra lock ring without even trying with the sroad lockring. And i had indeed noises after 100km, i disassembled the cassette then, put a lot more grease on the free hub body and since then it's absolute silent.

I have 2 sroad cassettes now, both silent with the described mounting. Maybe it can help you.

By the way.. the sroad cassettes changed their name to spedao.
Everything else looks the same. Did someone notice that? I wonder if it's really the same and only name has changed. I could need a new cassette for my daily bike and i am a bit uncertain now. Because also the price has dropped.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jonathanf2 on August 20, 2023, 11:05:44 AM
What kind of noise do you mean?
I heard that the lock ring can be the reason for squealing. That's why I just took my ultegra lock ring without even trying with the sroad lockring. And i had indeed noises after 100km, i disassembled the cassette then, put a lot more grease on the free hub body and since then it's absolute silent.

I have 2 sroad cassettes now, both silent with the described mounting. Maybe it can help you.

By the way.. the sroad cassettes changed their name to spedao.
Everything else looks the same. Did someone notice that? I wonder if it's really the same and only name has changed. I could need a new cassette for my daily bike and i am a bit uncertain now. Because also the price has dropped.

After riding it, the sound isn't as noticeable. I'll probably go back and add a lot more grease to the freehub. I guess it is called Spedao now. Oh well, SRoad sounds better! I'll probably order another one, once the "Back to School" sale starts in the next few hours.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Sebastian on August 20, 2023, 02:57:42 PM
I wasn't pounding it, more like gentle taps! Once on the free hub I was able to slide it up and down, it's just really snug. I'm going to test it out in a bit and see how it rides.

Update: I took SRoad cassette for a 25 mile break-in ride. On the road, noise wasn't as noticeable and shifting was the about the same as my Shimano cassettes. Honestly I don't know if the reduced weight makes a big difference, but pedaling seemed responsive.

The snug fit is part of why I like this cassette better than cassettes made of single cogs. The whole cassette creates one interface area with the freehub rather than each cog on its own, therefore completely eliminating cassette bite. That being said, I can take it off my freehub by hand - no problem. No need to hit it with a hammer. My lightweight Novatec alloy freehub still looks like new while a Shimano cassette would already have created bite marks no matter how hard I tighten it down.

I'm using the original lockring. No issues. It just works.
As for noise. I don't get any unusual shifting noise. The clunk when the chain jumps onto the next cog is definitely louder because the cassette - being one piece of steel - inevitably acts as a resonance body much more than individual cogs. Particularly when paired with deep section wheels. So yes, it does create more noise. But I don't mind. As long as it's not some kind of rattling or bad indexing noise.

I do now have 3000k on my 12sp cassette with minimal wear marks. I like it a lot, so far. If only they had an 11-34 for 12sp. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: coffeebreak on August 24, 2023, 11:28:39 AM
Is Sroad = Spedao (stupid name)? Was looking at ultralight road cassettes and seems like Zrace, ZTTO, Wuzei, Sunshine, Litepro, Goldix all have same cassettes with their lock rings except Spedao which is double the cost and is also lighter than the rest by 25-30 grams. They also seem like the only ones with different colors for road cassettes, others have colors but only in MTB cassettes.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jonathanf2 on August 24, 2023, 11:40:57 AM
Is Sroad = Spedao (stupid name)? Was looking at ultralight road cassettes and seems like Zrace, ZTTO, Wuzei, Sunshine, Litepro, Goldix all have same cassettes with their lock rings except Spedao which is double the cost and is also lighter than the rest by 25-30 grams. They also seem like the only ones with different colors for road cassettes, others have colors but only in MTB cassettes.

The SRoad/Spedao cogs are all-steel cassettes. The other lightweight cassettes uses steel small cogs and alloy big cogs, but they wear fast. I'd only get one of those if I lived in a primarily flat area or I was crit racing with minimal climbing.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: zxcvbnmjm on August 28, 2023, 05:19:15 AM
Has anyone seen any reviews on incolor zoney cassettes?

Im wandering how they perform compared to SROAD

Theyre available on pandapodium but not aliexpress i think?
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jonathanf2 on August 28, 2023, 09:02:19 AM
Yesterday when I was riding, I noticed the 2nd small cog skipping on the chain. I inspected the cog and couldn't see anything out of the ordinary. I tried the cassette on another bike and same issue. I tried a Shimano cassette and there wasn't any skipping on either bike. I'm wondering if there might be some spacing issues between the 11t and 12t cog causing the chain skip? All the cogs work fine and I even checked my derailleur alignment with the alignment tool to make sure it wasn't bent. Maybe I should try a different 11t cog and see if that fixes the problem?

Thankfully I can still return the cassette under Free Returns through AliEx if I can't solve the problem.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jcr on August 28, 2023, 09:06:38 AM
Yesterday when I was riding, I noticed the 2nd small cog skipping on the chain. I inspected the cog and couldn't see anything out of the ordinary. I tried the cassette on another bike and same issue. I tried a Shimano cassette and there wasn't any skipping on either bike. I'm wondering if there might be some spacing issues between the 11t and 12t cog causing the chain skip? Maybe I should try a different 11t cog and see if that fixes the problem?

Thankfully I can still return the cassette under Free Returns through AliEx if I can't solve the problem.

I think I had similar issue hence I am running my Shimano cassette right now.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: TidyDinosaur on August 28, 2023, 09:16:40 AM
Yesterday when I was riding, I noticed the 2nd small cog skipping on the chain. I inspected the cog and couldn't see anything out of the ordinary. I tried the cassette on another bike and same issue. I tried a Shimano cassette and there wasn't any skipping on either bike. I'm wondering if there might be some spacing issues between the 11t and 12t cog causing the chain skip? All the cogs work fine and I even checked my derailleur alignment with the alignment tool to make sure it wasn't bent. Maybe I should try a different 11t cog and see if that fixes the problem?

Thankfully I can still return the cassette under Free Returns through AliEx if I can't solve the problem.

Is this a riveted cassette by any chance? I had this happen on one of my cheap XD cassettes. One of the rivets had come loose and stuck out between 2 sprockets. The chains skipped on the rivet.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jonathanf2 on August 28, 2023, 09:35:29 AM
Is this a riveted cassette by any chance? I had this happen on one of my cheap XD cassettes. One of the rivets had come loose and stuck out between 2 sprockets. The chains skipped on the rivet.

It's riveted in the rear, but chain skipping is only happening between the 1st and 2nd cog. I'm going to try another 11t cog on the cassette before writing it off as a dud. I'm inspecting the SRoad 11t cog and a regular 11t and I notice there might be a small enough difference in size that might be causing chain rub.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jonathanf2 on August 28, 2023, 06:09:32 PM
I tried a different 11t small cog and it's definitely the 12t cog causing the problem. It's too much hassle to try another chain especially when it works just fine on my Shimano cassettes. I ended returning it for a refund.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: jonathanf2 on August 31, 2023, 12:59:29 PM
So I received a 2nd Spedao/SRoad cassette from the Lexon store which I purchased during the last sale, this cassette doesn't appear to be skipping. I'm wondering if the 1st cassette (which I returned) had a bad 12t cog causing it to skip? Anyways, just to verify, does everyone else's cassette make more noise in the 1st-2nd small cogs compared to a standard cassette?
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Michi on April 26, 2024, 02:43:28 PM
Update on my creaking 12sp cassette - more than 1000km later, the creaking still hasn't returned since I put thread lock on the interface between the spider and the cogs. So fingers crossed that I fixed the issue. Still, it seems that this interface, where the cogs are riveted to the spider can be a weak spot.

As for shifting and wear - it's been good. Not in any way inferior to cassettes from Shimano/Sram/Campag that I've been using in the past. The rainbow finish still looks like new.
I suppose I ran into the same problem: have a 12speed 11-50 cassette. Been running it for aprx. 1500km when a creaking started and quickly became quite loud. Dis- and reassembly (with mounting paste) stopped the noise for 100...150km. It is a once-per-rearwheel-revolution creak. Where did you apply the locktite exactly? I see the steel cogs somehow mounted to the aluminium part... but no gap where I could apply any the Loctite. Also which loctite did you use? Some gap-filler? Thanks a lot for any hint!
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: hsaus on April 27, 2024, 01:40:30 PM
So I received a 2nd Spedao/SRoad cassette from the Lexon store which I purchased during the last sale, this cassette doesn't appear to be skipping. I'm wondering if the 1st cassette (which I returned) had a bad 12t cog causing it to skip? Anyways, just to verify, does everyone else's cassette make more noise in the 1st-2nd small cogs compared to a standard cassette?

I have an 11 speed 11-32T Spedao/Sroad cassette. No skipping or unusual noise on any cogs.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Fish #6 on April 27, 2024, 05:10:22 PM
I have an 11-speed 11-32 SROAD cassette. It's been on my main bike for two years, it's just coming up on 16,000 km and I've had no issues whatsoever. It's used with 4 waxed chains in rotation and pretty well looked after.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: ausmtb8989 on April 28, 2024, 06:15:04 AM
I have a SROAD 11-42 MTB cassette and no issues so far after 3 months of riding
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: zerstorer on April 28, 2024, 06:42:55 AM
A Sroad cassette is definitely noisier than a normal steel cassette because it's hollowed out inside. Have been using one for about 5000km and it's still in good condition.
For those who was, if you experience skipping on some cogs, sometimes it can be due to wax buildup on the cassette. Just scraping it clean will solve the skipping.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Serge_K on April 28, 2024, 06:46:56 AM
I had noise on the second to last cog of a 11-32 i installed after using an 11-34 because i had to put the 11-34 on another bike for a bit. I didn't adjust the RD cage nor did i resize the chain. I suspect the reason is that: i didn't adjust the RD cage, and maybe to a lesser extent because the chain is too long. I'll update this if i can't get rid of the noise. I think that more often than not, people with noisy drive trains are due to user error rather than equipment.
I've been using those chinese alu & steel extra light cassettes.
Also, in one instance, 1 of the tiny torx screw at the back of one of them was getting loose. I think going fwd i'll loctite these before installing the cassette for peace of mind.
There are a lot of bolts on a bike that i find benefit from getting loctite.
And indeed, you have to monitor wax buildup, it happened to me once and it can build up quite fast.
Title: Re: SROAD lightweight cassettes
Post by: Michi on April 28, 2024, 08:46:52 AM
Thanks for picking up the topic again! To be more precise regarding the type of cassette: it is this one https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005001874227807.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.89.201b5c5fm3ZIaJ&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu (hope the link works... how can I create those short links?) It is a one-piece cog design machined from steel, installed on a aluminium carrier. Just the smallest cog is a separate one. From the message I commented ybove I read that there was a similar design referred to, and the fix was to apply Loctite.
Now I put some Loctite 641 to the area where the steel and the aluminium part are in contact. Not sure whether it has a chance to intrude and cure...