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Title: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: velofranner on June 17, 2015, 06:01:08 AM
Hi Everyone

I know that quite many on this site uses Strava. So I thought if we should have a Strava Chinertown club. It would be fun to check each others rides out. So what do you guys think about the idea?

/Velofranner
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: carbonazza on June 18, 2015, 03:43:34 PM
What ? You want us all to come naked, while now we are comfortably leaving behind our anonymous nick names... :)
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: MTNRCKT on June 18, 2015, 03:59:34 PM
I like the idea but I'm a newb to Strava and I guess I didn't realize you couldn't do it anonymously?
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: outriding9800 on June 18, 2015, 10:33:49 PM
What ? You want us all to come naked, while now we are comfortably leaving behind our anonymous nick names... :)

Hold it. Theres naked chicks in here sign me up
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: velofranner on June 19, 2015, 02:33:37 AM
What ? You want us all to come naked, while now we are comfortably leaving behind our anonymous nick names... :)

Haha it was just an idea :D And I got nothing to hide :D
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: cmh on August 03, 2015, 07:49:04 PM
Haha it was just an idea :D And I got nothing to hide :D

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IR__vtexldM/VcAL4nX9OCI/AAAAAAAAhOo/V1aKu-8U53o/s421-Ic42/Screen%252520Shot%2525202015-08-03%252520at%2525208.47.44%252520PM.png)

Well, then. :D
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: MTB2223 on August 04, 2015, 07:19:34 AM
Created one.
https://www.strava.com/clubs/chinertown
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: bdub on August 04, 2015, 11:26:51 AM
Joined
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: Carbon_Dude on August 05, 2015, 09:39:45 PM
Not a Strava member, at least net yet anyway.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: Jerryno on August 06, 2015, 03:26:50 AM
I would join, but I gave up on GPS tracking some time ago. My phone always loses GPS signal in a forest and catches it back only when I stop. It's assisted GPS (most phones have this).

What do you use to track yourselves? A phone works for you or do you have Garmin's or other GPS cyclo computers?
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: MTB2223 on August 06, 2015, 03:37:18 AM
First I used a Garmin Edge 810, now I'm using the Garmin Edge 1000.
The 810 sometimes loses the GPS in the forest. The 1000 doesn't.

Couple of years ago, when starting with mountain biking, I used my phone. But it drained the battery, it was not accurate and I wanted to plan my rides, so I needed navigation.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: Joelk on August 06, 2015, 07:28:40 AM
Joined.

I just use my phone, Samsung S5, which works well and has good battery life.  My old S3 would lose gps and run down the battery.  I tried a Garmin 200 but it cut off too many corners in twisty singletrack riding.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: carbonazza on August 06, 2015, 07:41:24 AM
I joined too, and use an iPhone 6.

Getting the 20% battery warning after about 4:30h
But only with 4G off. Wifi off. And all useless apps off too.
For longer rides, I use a Verbatim Power Pack 3500mAh that gives a 175% charge.

To just record a ride, I use Strava's app.

And if I need navigation: ViewRanger.com that has offline maps.
It records the ride too, as a GPX file, you can then import in Strava.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: bdub on August 06, 2015, 10:55:13 AM
I just use my Nexus 6. So far it seems accurate. I just barely started tracking every detail of my ride on Strava so we will see how it works.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: trekcarbonboy on August 06, 2015, 12:10:35 PM
Garmin Forerunner 305. When I forget it I use my S4.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: outriding9800 on August 06, 2015, 03:35:04 PM
Joined!
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: velofranner on August 11, 2015, 05:17:40 AM
Wow I haven't checked this thread for a while!

Created one.
https://www.strava.com/clubs/chinertown

Joined!
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: cmh on August 11, 2015, 09:54:53 AM
Sweet, I joined up as well, thanks!
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: Zipper on August 30, 2015, 12:55:46 AM
Joined!
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: bxcc on September 24, 2015, 07:17:46 PM
Joined. Cool idea
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: seahog32 on November 22, 2015, 06:04:10 PM
May I join even if I don't own a "chiner"?

After some soul searching I decided to go with an alloy frame early this year. It might have been partially that I am not quite comfortable with this disposable first world culture. Although, shamefully, my choice was hardly any more ecological going for a relatively expensive titanium. Moreover, I did not even build it from scratch. Canadian import regulations simply favour complete bikes (as long as they are "made in the US") - sigh.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: cmh on November 23, 2015, 02:58:49 PM
May I join even if I don't own a "chiner"?

After some soul searching I decided to go with an alloy frame early this year. It might have been partially that I am not quite comfortable with this disposable first world culture. Although, shamefully, my choice was hardly any more ecological going for a relatively expensive titanium. Moreover, I did not even build it from scratch. Canadian import regulations simply favour complete bikes (as long as they are "made in the US") - sigh.

I sure hope you can join, despite several near purchases of Chiners, I am still in the non-owners' club, and I'm in the Strava group. :)
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: Vipassana on December 10, 2015, 10:30:25 AM
Ah, I've been forgetting to join this group.  And use Strava.  But I joined now.  And started using the app.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: xcbarny on December 22, 2015, 05:37:03 PM
Joined - though I haven't got my Chiner sorted yet
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: SportingGoods on August 04, 2016, 03:32:05 AM
Just joined! I use Mapmyride but thought it could be cool to join your group. I had a Strava account to test it, logged 2 rides in 2013 :)
I won't log much this month, or use it at all, as I'll be off for 3 weeks with the family and won't be riding bike much.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: Midwest-MTBer on August 04, 2016, 08:13:40 AM
I just joined yesterday as well. Not riding much until I'm done with my 036 build. I haven't used Strava before, but it looks like some of you guys put on some serious miles!!
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: SportingGoods on August 04, 2016, 10:37:39 AM
I noticed that too... the top 3 puts me to a shame :(

They log as much in a week as I do in a month
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: bxcc on August 04, 2016, 02:15:29 PM
I just joined yesterday as well. Not riding much until I'm done with my 036 build. I haven't used Strava before, but it looks like some of you guys put on some serious miles!!

Haha, I was thinking the same thing. It is cool to see where everyone else rides though.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: carbonazza on August 05, 2016, 11:01:08 AM
Before the roadies invaded the group getting a top position was doable, not anymore :)
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: Carbon_Dude on August 05, 2016, 01:34:57 PM
I need an eBike so I can beat all of you all.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: SportingGoods on September 26, 2016, 08:32:05 AM
I've switched to Strava now, completely. There are many things I prefer over MapMyRide:
- screen saver. Screen gets dark but not locked! With MMR, it was either full ON or full OFF but no screen saver.
- Community. I knew no-one on MMR.
- Comparison. This is the only way to track progress, and Strava makes it convenient to compare your performance/regularity to yourself/others.

What I prefer on MMR:
- creating a new route on my laptop is easier with MMR.
- The free app/account offers flexibility in the app display (can show instant speed). Strava app only shows average speed if you get a free account.
- Premium account was 30USD on MMR, almost twice as much for Strava... but I'll probably pick it to enable Hear Rate monitoring and instant speed.

Anyone gets a Strava coupon?
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: carbonazza on September 26, 2016, 09:16:11 AM
I decided to become a paying customer of Strava recently, after 2 years as a freeloader.
I can't say it is worth the upgrade(I do not measure cardio or power), but I have now the impression I pay my dues to a service that I use a lot.
Using it to know my mileage to swap chains.
And as a motivational tool to ride. By kicking some local bikers out of their KOM :)

Does a coupon come by some sort of invitation I could trigger?

For the mapping I use viewranger.com (http://viewranger.com), they were recently featured at the Apple keynote for their watch app.

It has a decent(not great) map planning tool on the desktop. A better one on the mobile.
And I use the viewranger app to navigate instead of Strava, as it has offline maps and can stand 4-5 hours of navigation.
Uploading a gpx to Strava when back home.

And finally I use Adze( on mac ), to edit longer tracks before riding.
It has some quirky shortcuts, but once you get used to them you become very fast at assembling tracks from various sources.

Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: SportingGoods on September 26, 2016, 10:27:46 AM
No, I don't think coupon can be send out. There is no invite that grants a discount. But sometimes there are special offers. I get my Premium account at MapMyRide till the end of the year. I'll watch offers till then.

I don't want to use multiple apps, I really want to keep it simple, within one app. So I'll probably need the premium account.

And lucky you to be able to be KOM :), the place I live and ride is so full of strong riders that I'll probably never get one! And I'm 40, with a family, which doesn't help either to spend my life on a bike :)
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: carbonazza on September 27, 2016, 07:38:01 AM
At the beginning I was thinking it was impossible too, but little by little, knowing the segment, I get some.
I'm 48 with family too, but with a rather flexible job...
Unfortunately for you, bike greats probably love to train in the Alps, putting the bar probably higher :)

One example of my recent Strava fights:
Someone makes a new segment on my routine-before-work track(~20km I do twice a week).
I'm 10th with something like 2:00 or so.

At my next morning ride I push more and win the KOM.
The same evening the guy get it back, putting me 24" behind...

A couple of days later, I take it back, not far from throwing out my lungs at the end.

The same evening! Damn commuters... :) he put me 6" behind.
I gave up for now, rain left the track quite bad and impossible to compete.

It is definitely like a video game.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: SportingGoods on September 27, 2016, 08:23:11 AM
Well, this tells everything: some of the segments around here are own by Pro riders. No less then Romain Bardet, probably the best road French cyclist of the moment. I'm now a follower, very interesting to see his Stava log!
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: SportingGoods on October 03, 2016, 03:13:21 AM
I've just ordered some stuff from Quadlock (I mount my phone on my bike, car, etc...). Good news is that they offer 1 month of Strava Premium for free. So I've just upgraded.

The trick is that you have to set your payment so that if you don't cancel within the next 30 days you automatically start to pay. Now I've got a month to decide if Premium is worth €55/year.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: carbonazza on October 03, 2016, 09:19:13 AM
Do you have a power meter? Or just cardio measures?
In any case I'm interested if it is worth the upgrade from your side.

I've drawn a holder with Sketchup and 3D printed it.
(http://i.imgur.com/CDBfRum.png)
It costs 24€ shipping included through shapeways.com (http://shapeways.com)

I'll get a new phone and do another one.
But this time I won't do the Garmin 1/4 turn thing.
Just 4 pins to put two elastic bands on the stem.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: SportingGoods on October 04, 2016, 02:24:59 AM
I really love Quadlock products. They are very expensive, but my phone is held strong during mountain biking and the "Poncho" is a perfect protection from water, dust and mud.

Regarding sensors I already use a Heart Rate Monitor. This is what got me to pay the Premium account at MapMyRide (they call it MVP). It is the same with Strava, no premium no HR! I don't have a power meter and don't plan on it, too expensive, but Strava emulates power, which is a good starting point. But you need accurate speed for that. GPS speed is far from accurate, so I will buy very soon a couple of Smart BT sensors: cadence and speed (http://www.alltricks.fr/F-41479-accessoires-electronique/P-204655-pack_capteur_vitesse___cadence_rpm_wahoo_fitness).
Riding on the road in the last few weeks I realized that there is one specific cadence where I'm strong, I want to analyze that.

So the Strava Premium account will enable me to access the analysis of HR, Speed and Cadence. Correlated with Strava's power emulation I should be able to get some nice information on riding efficiently.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: carbonazza on October 04, 2016, 04:28:27 AM
...I realized that there is one specific cadence where I'm strong...
Interesting, what does it mean? You could go on forever at that cadence? Or it feels just right?

I tried a few times to ride with a metronome set at around 90 on my phone, and stick to the rhythm as much as possible, my average speed for a usual ride increased dramatically.
But I didn't find a sweet spot cadence.
Title: Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
Post by: SportingGoods on October 04, 2016, 08:05:20 AM
It's hard to describe but there is a cadence where I get the feeling that I push strong on the legs (a lot of power) but I don't burn out (could go for an hour max, not forever). The odd thing is that if I spin the legs slower, keeping the same gear, it is more difficult, feels like I need to put more power (even though I go slower). And if I go faster then I run out of breeze and legs quickly.

It feels like my brain switches off at this cadence (probably in the 90). For the legs, it feels like I get a spring between the legs and I hit the resonant frequency of that spring.

I'd like to analyze if that cadence varies with anything: bike, slope, form of the day...

EDIT: now I think about it, I remember that in several occasions I was struggling uphill, low gear ratio, going slowly. Then I moved 1 or 2 sprockets down (harder) and simultaneously increased cadence (to that sweet spot) and I got into a nice momentum that got me up the hill more easily, even though it would still drain energy.