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Vendor Discussion & Reviews / Re: SUNRIMOON Helmets
« on: March 13, 2022, 02:15:13 PM »
Frankly I'm skeptical. But I'm also willing to be persuaded that they're truly equivalent to the name-brand helmets sold in the US and elsewhere.

I wonder if some of us could buy Chinese bike helmets and have them tested at the Virginia Tech lab: https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/bicycle-helmet-ratings.html

As you can see from the ratings there, the correlation between price and protection is weak at best.

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It's very common for several Chinese vendors to have essentially the same product under slightly different names. Look at all the sellers hawking the FM831, for an example.

They could be independent distributors getting their products from the same factory. Or the design, and maybe the tooling, could have been sold to several different factories by an independent designer.

The stores I've listed in the original post are the ones I'm 95% sure are the same company.

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Vendor Discussion & Reviews / Multiple storefronts for the same vendor
« on: January 15, 2022, 06:20:27 PM »
Anyone who's been shopping for Chinese bikes and parts will start to recognize that the same companies own several storefronts under different names.
As an aid to the newcomer to Chinertown, here are a few of the ones I've noticed. Additions and corrections welcomed.

  • Airwolf Official Store (AliX)
    Airwolf Cycling Dreams Store (AliX)
    Airwolf_factory_bike (DHgate)
    Yaoflying Official Store (?) (AliX)
  • Bai xintai cycling Store (AliX)
    BXT Official Store (AliX)
    Gogoing Store (AliX)
  • ICAN BIKE EQUIPMENT CO., LTD Official Store (AliX)
    Shenzen Ican Sports Equipment Co., Ltd. (AliX)
    IMUST Official Store (AliX)
    ICAN Cycling (https://icancycling.com/)
    TRIAERO (https://triaero.com/)
  • lexon Official Store (AliX)
    Everjoy Industry Co., Ltd Store (AliX)
    JAWBONE Official Store (AliX)
    RYET Official Store (AliX)
    Shenzen BKR Bicycle Co., Ltd (http://lexonbicycles.com/)
  • Lightcarbon (https://www.lightcarbon.com/)
    Yishunbike (https://www.yishunbike.com/)
  • OG-EVKIN Official Store (AliX)
    OG-EVKIN Store (AliX)
    OG-EVKIN . Store (AliX)
  • Seraph Official Store (AliX)
    Seraph factory Store (AliX)
    Seraph Bikes (https://www.seraphbikes.com/)
    Shenzen TanTan Sports Equipment Co., Ltd. (http://www.tantancycling.com/)
    tantansports (DHgate)
  • Spcycle Store (AliX)
    Shenzen Smile Team Store (AliX)
    SPCYCLE (https://www.sp-cycle.com/)
  • Thrust Carbon Bike Store (AliX)
    Thrust Sporting Goods Store (AliX)
  • Tideace Official Store (AliX)
    Tideace Direct Store (AliX)
    Haideli Bikes (https://www.haidelibikes.com/)
  • TWITTER Bicycle flagship Store (AliX)
    TWITTER bike factorymonopoly store (AliX)
  • WINOWCYCLE Store (AliX)
    FINTOWON Official Store (AliX)
    WINOWSPORTS (http://www.winowsports.com/)

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29er / Re: SVChucko's Seraph/TanTan FM10 build
« on: January 15, 2022, 12:43:01 AM »
More progress... no pics today, sorry.

I finally got the last bit I needed to finish the build: helicopter tape (ISC Surface Guard OG-HD) for protecting the downtube, chainstay, and various other parts which could get bits of dirt, sand, and rock thrown at them.. Frankly I did a fairly ugly job of putting it on the frame, but then I was the kid who always had glue fingerprints on the models I built. Anyway, the frame is protected, and I can always redo the tape later.

Once that was done, I re-routed the shifter cable and rear brake hose in some windshield washer tubing I had laying around, to reduce cable rattles. Then I routed the cable for the OneUp dropper seatpost.

Now that all the internal cables were routed, I could install the bottom bracket. This took a few tries, as the bearings on both sides of the frame kept getting cocked. I did a little bit of sanding on the inside of the bores, on the side that was getting hung up, and eventually everything went together. Then I installed the crankset, which took a couple tries as well before I figured out which side the spacer goes on, and which spacer my setup needed. Once I got that sorted, I installed a pair of Shimano PD-ME700 pedals.

The seatpost went in, and an Ergon saddle went on top of the post. Last thing I did before calling it a day was cutting the shift cable housing to length.

There's probably a day's worth of work left before I can think about riding it. The brake hoses need to be shortened and the brakes bled; dropper post lever installed; install a chain and set up the derailleur and shifter; get the bar, saddle, and controls where I want them, and go over all the bolts with a torque wrench a couple more times. Then there will be pictures. And riding.

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29er / Re: SVChucko's Seraph/TanTan FM10 build
« on: January 09, 2022, 02:43:02 AM »
Not a lot to show, but progress has been made. The Hope hub, an SQLab 30X bar, a pair of Ergon grips, and a OneUp dropper post are now in my hands. I finished rebuilding the front wheel just a few minutes ago.

The bearings in the suspension are all standard industry sizes. The trunnion bearings, the rocker pivot, and the rocker-to-seatstay bearings (that's 6 total) are all 10mm ID x 19mm OD x 5mm wide. The industry part number is 6800-2RS. The 2 swing arm bearings are 15x28x7mm, industry #6902-2RS. (The -2RS stands for "2 rubber seals".)

The bearing locations all have room for wider bearings, but you'll probably need longer bolts. The 6800-2RS can be replaced with a 3800-2RS. This is a 10x19x7mm double row angular contact bearing which should withstand a substantial radial load. This bearing is not all that common, but it is available and not outrageously expensive. Real World Cycling (a.k.a. EnduroForkSeals dot com) has a 3800 bearing which is 8mm wide. As far as I can tell that is not a standard size - I think they advertise it as a replacement for a specific Trek model.

The first photo shows the rocker pivot bearing - note the excess threadlocker compound that flaked off.

I unscrewed several of the suspension bolts to get a better look at them. (This may have been a mistake.) The bolts are all aluminum. Given my recent experience with Chinese threads in aluminum, that makes me a little nervous. They all had threadlocker on them when I removed them.

The rocker pivot and the rocker-to-seatstay bolts are the same size. The bolts are 10mm x 1.5 pitch, with a small 14mm diameter x 2mm high shoulder under the 19mm diameter head. The length under the shoulder is 19mm, of which only the last 11 mm are threaded. The bearing rides on the unthreaded shank, and on the shoulder. The second photo shows the rocker bolt removed from the first photo.

The shock trunnion bolts are also 10mm diameter, but with the standard trunnion 1mm pitch (which is considered extra fine). The bolts also have a 19mm head and a 14x2mm shoulder, and 15mm under head length, of which the last 10mm are threaded. I cross-threaded this bolt trying to get it back in, which is why I said it may have been a mistake to take it all apart. I finally got it back in straight. I think it'll be OK. But I'm already looking for a replacement. The 3rd photo shows the trunnion bolt before I cross-threaded it.

The swing arm bearings ride on an axle which extends through the front triangle. There's a bolt on the right end of the axle, it's a serious shoulder bolt. Threads are 12mm x 1.25mm pitch, 18mm long. The shoulder on which the ID of the bearing rides is 15mm diameter by 7mm long. There's a second shoulder, looks to be 19x1mm, directly under the 28mm diameter head. See the 4th photo.

I hope to find time tomorrow to run the seatpost cable in the frame and install the post itself. Once that's in place, i can install the bottom bracket and crank, trim the cables and brake hoses, and go looking for a saddle and a chain.

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Seems like threads stripping out is a common issue with Goldix. At least you got a replacement.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« on: December 31, 2021, 11:59:43 AM »
I bought a pair of Goldix GDX 370 hubs on AliExpress. The first time I tried to mount a brake rotor on the front hub, the threads stripped out of 2 of the 6 bolt holes! I contacted the vendor, they asked for pictures, I sent them, they told me it was my fault.

Fortunately no such problem with the rear... but I'm not expecting the 36T star ratchet to last very long, after the experience with the stripped rotor holes.

DO NOT BUY FROM GOLDIX.

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Goldix store asked for photos. I sent them.

The reply was "My friend, it was you who screwed the thread."

DO NOT BUY FROM GOLDIX.

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29er / Re: Current transit times to the US?
« on: December 28, 2021, 08:29:45 PM »
To wrap this up, my frame left the vendor on Sept. 17, and was finally at my door on Dec. 21. That's 95 days in transit, give or take an International Date Line.

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I built up a wheelset from a pair of Goldix GDX 370 hubs a couple of months ago. I didn't have the bike frame to put them in, so they sat for a while.

Today I tried to install brake rotors for the first time on these hubs. I was PISSED when the very first bolt hole in the front hub stripped before I got to the spec'd 6.2 N-M torque!! I was even more pissed when a second bolt hole stripped.

I have a complaint in with the vendor. We'll see what happens. No matter what, though, I have to rebuild that wheel.

The rear rotor bolted on without incident, fortunately.

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29er / Re: SVChucko's Seraph/TanTan FM10 build
« on: December 28, 2021, 03:01:18 AM »
Lots of progress tonight. I tapped out the factory-installed upper headset race without incident, and pressed in the race that came with my ZTTO headset. I installed a Cane Creek Helm II fork, temporarily using a 70mm stem and an old Titec Pluto riser bar. The stem may stay, but I will definitely need a wider bar.

I got a set of take-off SRAM Code RSC take-offs for a good price off eBay, from a bike dealer in SoCal. I mounted the calipers, but the rear caliper bolts are too long for this frame. I need to find shorter bolts.  I already had brake rotors (203mm front, 180mm rear). When I tried to install the front rotor, 2 of the 6 bolt holes in the Goldix GDX 370 front hub stripped before I could get them up to torque! I've complained to the vendor. We'll see how that works out. The rear hub didn't have that problem, fortunately. But now I need to replace the front hub and rebuild the wheel.

I mounted the ZTTO 11-speed cassette and Sensah derailleur and shifter. Routing the shifter cable housing and the rear brake hose was a hassle, but nowhere near as bad as I'd feared. I won't cut either to length until I have a handlebar.

I took an old seatpost and measured the insertion depth. I came up with 160mm (this is the 17.5" frame). Looks like my best bet is a OneUp Dropper V2 150mm. I may not be able to use all the travel, but I can shim it down to 140mm. That's more travel than I can get with any other post in this frame.

After months of staring at a pile of parts, it's starting to look like a bike! Still a long ways to go, though. I have to buy and install some cockpit parts (bar, saddle, dropper post, pedals) and a chain, and rebuild the front wheel, before it'll be rideable.

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29er / Re: SVChucko's Seraph/TanTan FM10 build
« on: December 22, 2021, 12:22:10 AM »
I did a little test fitting of some of the parts I've acquired for this bike. The bore for the bottom bracket is undersize... yeah, it's a press-fit BB, but it's undersize enough that I'm a little nervous about pressing it in like that. I may take some sandpaper or a bottle-brush hone to it.

The bike came with the outer races for the headset bearings already pressed in. I'd bought a ZTTO headset for this bike, so I checked to see whether the bearings would fit in the races. Lower race - looks good. Upper race - the diameter is right, but the race is too shallow, and the bearing would be sticking up through the top tube. So that's one thing I'm going to have to fix. Any good tips on removing a headset race from a carbon frame?

And as luck would have it, that's the race with the minor cosmetic damage from shipping. So as I hinted in the first post, the cosmetic damage won't matter at all.

I took out the rear axle shipping brace and installed the real axle. First "oops" on this new frame: my Allen wrench wasn't fully seated when I torqued the derailleur hanger bolt, and I messed up the bolt head. Fortunately the damage is minor, and with a little care, I managed to get it up to proper torque. Also fortunately, I ordered a spare hanger some months ago!

I measured the width between the rear dropouts at about 146mm. This is a Boost frame, so that's a bit snug, but I'm sure it can be "persuaded" to fit the 148mm hub.

One more picture of the messed up bolt head, and that's it for today.

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29er / Re: SVChucko's Seraph/TanTan FM10 build
« on: December 22, 2021, 12:08:36 AM »
First order of business was taking out the shipping strut and installing a Manitou Mara shock in its place. The trunnion end fit snugly, as it should; but the rocker end was too tight to fit the mounting hardware, so I took one side of the rocker off for a look.

First good sign: all the bolts had a threadlocking compound applied, and were TIGHT.

The rocker and trunnion ride on 19 x 10 x 5mm bearings, sealed on both sides. This is the common 6800 size. Bearings are pressed into the frame and rocker such that bolt torque holds them in on one side, and a ridge in the bore holds them in on the other.

There appear to be some tooling marks on the inside of the trunnion mount, where they won't be seen once the bike is assembled.

More pics...

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29er / SVChucko's Seraph/TanTan FM10 build
« on: December 21, 2021, 11:57:21 PM »
At long last, the FM10 frame I ordered in mid-September arrived at my Silicon Valley home, just in time for the holidays! Merry Christmas to me!

The box was in pretty good shape considering it had been in transit for 3 months.

I went over the frame with a fine tooth comb once I got it unpacked. There was some minor cosmetic damage to the pre-installed upper headset bearing race - but as I will explain later, that won't matter. Some minor paint chipping around one of the rear end pivot bolts, and the rough end of the bottom bracket tube, were about the only things I could complain about.

I was disappointed that there aren't any strings strung through the cable holes. That'll make things tricky when I put it together.

Here are some pictures to get it started.

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29er / Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« on: December 19, 2021, 11:31:35 AM »
However, while tightening the hardware using a torque wrench, I stripped out the head of Torx screw for the rocker pivot.  I'm sure it was partly my technique, but perhaps the screw wasn't the highest quality.

Perhaps?! If you stripped a Torx head without overtorquing the bolt, the bolt was clearly defective, either in manufacture or (my bet) material choice. That just shouldn't happen.

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