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Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset I got the 50mm version recently, ran about 350km on it until now. So far they are doing just fine. They came true and stayed so after some running, actually including some light gravel use with 30mm tyres.

My only issue was, they came without preinstalled tape and the tape in the box wasn't enough for both wheels. That wasn't great, but no showstopper obviously.

Delivery to Germany was fast and smooth to my door. After ordering they asked me if I wanted DPD shipping toll included, it would be 37$ additional cost. I accepted and they send a link for another ali-payment from which I had to order a quantity of 38. Seems strange, but worked.

I asked them to send the wheels without any branding and stickers and they did. I like the matte black look. The spokes don't look as good as Sapim CX-Ray though, they seem rougher.

So all in all I'm satisfied and would recommend them at this price point. I'm coming from MTB, so I cannot really compare them to other road sets, how they feel, how fast they are.
September 18, 2023, 02:10:36 PM 		1
Re: Hanger alignment tools - any recommendations? I bought this Ztto from "Global Outdoor Sporting Store" and it worked fine:

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005988666317.html
October 27, 2023, 11:46:33 AM 		1
Re: Consensus on replica frames ?? From what I can tell the quality of my VBR 218 is no worse than a usual beginner to middle-class carbon frame from a western brand. As we know a lot of western brands just sell chinese frames with their branding and why should a replica frame be worse than other open molds? The replica has the advantage of compatiblity with a lot of accessories or spare parts from the original though. Geometry and aero will often be better too.

So it depends: If you want a superbike, you'll have to pay for the original and there is a bigger difference. But if you just want some easy middle-class well performing bike, the replica can do that just fine.

I wouldn't put stickers on it too, for sure.
December 31, 2023, 09:23:25 AM 		3
Re: Consensus on replica frames ??
Quote from: carbonazza on January 01, 2024, 04:13:38 AM
Did you watch the video from 24:17 ?
Most replica look the same as the real thing, but just from afar, at best they are QA rejected B or C quality bikes, or at worst just gross copies.
People selling them do not put their skin in the game like the brands that try to build their reputation and trust.

Yes I did and what Joe said was remarkebly vague and generic. As others said already, bad things can happen with other frames and sources too, it depends from whom you buy and not at least the quality control you have to do for yourself. And I can tell from experience that my VBR-218 is fine. The crank doesn't spin any worse than on an original Dogma and it does 80km/h descents just fine. Just the rear brake mount is not perfect, but workable. Everything, including the appearance of the inside of the tubes, very much in line of what I have seen with regular middle-class CF frames from western brands.   

I like Joe from PandaPodium and what he is doing. But he has way too much personal interest in this matter to be your only advisor. Here in Germany buying a replica product is legal for private use. But if you sell something like that, it's a crime. So if Joe would sell replicas, he might get into bigger trouble when returning to Europe. I wouldn't take that risk if I were him. His business is instead making Chinese originals accessible to us, which is great. But for sure he wants us to buy Chinese originals from him and not some replica he can't sell.
January 01, 2024, 07:53:32 AM 		4
Re: Patty's Long Rant and Guide To Affordable Frames
Quote from: Takiyaki on January 31, 2024, 09:49:19 AM
This is unfair and kind of wrong IMO.

Regarding Pat it's probably a little unfair. But carbonazza has a point: The more companies like winspace see how they are seen as reputable brands delivering higher quality, the higher their prices will rise. Even more so, if they pay something for the marketing and being named and shown by "influencers". And the whole point of buying those Chinese frames is to spare all the cost for marketing-bullshit. Not buying a name, but just the frame for just riding. I would prefer to keep it that way.
January 31, 2024, 10:38:09 AM 		6
Re: Patty's Long Rant and Guide To Affordable Frames My argument wasn't that sending influencers frames would increase the cost, which is given back to us by increasing prices. That is indeed marginal. But prices aren't made from costs, but from what you can actually ask for, what the customer is willing to pay.

Btw, I'm not criticizising anyone here, neither the influencers nor the companies looking for effective marketing. Doing that thing is probably in the best interest of both. It's just not in my best interest (probably true for a lot of people here in this forum) and I learned to speak out for that.
February 01, 2024, 01:01:39 PM 		1
Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
Quote from: jardo0o on February 12, 2024, 08:47:18 AM
Hi guys, here is my build.

Nice Colour!
February 12, 2024, 09:15:57 AM 		1
Re: TPU vs Latex innertube I'm using Newboler 28g TPU

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005428747176.html

So far all of them worked flawless. Only puncture I got was from a big piece of debris which killed the whole tyre. No tube would have survived this.

I don't know if they are identical to RideNow, I guess so.
March 15, 2024, 05:15:49 AM 		1
Re: Velobuild VB-R-218 I didn't try yet how low I could go. I just assembled it and holds since.

Look, no need to panic. It's a 550 € china frame. It's about fun. And velobuild respect their warranty actually. Do some measures, stay easy with the torque and chances are good you'll be fine.
April 08, 2024, 02:39:49 PM 		1