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Title: Chinese forks
Post by: Icyseanfitz on January 06, 2022, 06:28:09 AM
Hey guys, I've decided to do a full Chinese build with a highball clone I got last year and haven't built up yet. Has anyone tried any 120/130mm Chinese forks (ztto, bolaney, himalo) that are anybit decent? Obviously im not expecting anything near fox or rockshox but I'm curious.

Have a set suntour raidons (€ 123,18  30%OFF | Suntour 2017 Raidon Fork 32mm 27.5 Wire-controlled 2018 RAIDON 34BOOST Fork 29 Shoulder-controlled tapered barrel shaft 15x110mm
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0mGDoY)  on Ali basket for good money which are probably the safer bet but I like trying weird parts
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: 00Garza on January 15, 2022, 09:07:27 PM
Wouldn't bother with chinese forks if I were you. There is a guy on youtube (Wolftick Videos) who does reviews on them. The Epixon/Raidons you find on Aliexpress or ebay are much safer bets.
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: FullCarbonAlchemist on January 15, 2022, 11:15:53 PM
IMO suspension is one of the areas you should be most cautious about cutting corners.

A midrange Suntour is pretty much the best value out there. I’d make sure to get one of their spring backed IFP models (like the Auron or Durolux), but pretty much anything above the XC32 level is going to hugely outperform any of those generic forks and be much more reliable/safer out on the trail.

With a lot of those other forks, if you blow them out — and it’s a distinct possibility that you will — that’s pretty much all she wrote. The vast majority of LBSes can’t or won’t work on them.
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: tripleDot on January 17, 2022, 01:47:07 PM
Of the 3 forks mentioned (Ztto, Bolany & Himalo), I've only seen Bolany locally. Lots of folks in the local scene have posted pictures & videos of Bolany breaking. Not crack or bent/dent but literally break into pieces. A couple were even on their maiden rides. And a lot of those aren't even aggressive riding.
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: Icyseanfitz on January 18, 2022, 01:00:13 PM
Pity as the Chinese have decent alternatives to just about every other component, can't fathom that they haven't cracked a half decent fork.
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: 00Garza on January 18, 2022, 01:55:19 PM
Pity as the Chinese have decent alternatives to just about every other component, can't fathom that they haven't cracked a half decent fork.

I'm still waiting for decent chinese hydro brakes and a derailleur with an actual clutch.  :-\
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: Icyseanfitz on January 18, 2022, 06:10:20 PM
I think there are a few 12sp derailleurs with clutches the last time looked, maybe the sensah stuff? I've a Chinese 12sp drivetrain (can't exactly remember what) on my hardtail for the last year and it really isn't bad.
As for brakes I'm going to try a set these ztto 4 pots to see if there any good
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrQ0r3w
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: Schumo on January 19, 2022, 03:39:50 PM
Pity as the Chinese have decent alternatives to just about every other component, can't fathom that they haven't cracked a half decent fork.

Most chinese carbon and aluminium parts are fine, but most of their mechanical stuff is lowest end big brand stuff at a lower price point at best imo. 
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: Icyseanfitz on May 14, 2022, 06:44:23 PM
After taking a chance on a bolany boost 100mm fork for an xc build (no jumps or drops) as it's weight is quite impressive (1800g or so), for just under 130euro. Most likely pure shit but it's worth a shot on a bike that will only be used for longer less demanding rides.
First thing I'll do though is dismantle it and grease the inners (I'd assume no point putting oil in the lowers as it won't hold
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: TidyDinosaur on November 10, 2022, 07:53:15 AM
After taking a chance on a bolany boost 100mm fork for an xc build (no jumps or drops) as it's weight is quite impressive (1800g or so), for just under 130euro. Most likely pure shit but it's worth a shot on a bike that will only be used for longer less demanding rides.
First thing I'll do though is dismantle it and grease the inners (I'd assume no point putting oil in the lowers as it won't hold

Any feedback?
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: cst_jpr on November 10, 2022, 03:01:07 PM
Garbage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXXWUoI7OdA
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: Icyseanfitz on November 10, 2022, 03:21:01 PM
Any feedback?

I haven't done huge milage, only around 150km, every adjustment still works and it hasn't killed me yet, it's definitely not as plush as it was day one, that's probably down to the lack of proper wiper seals. I suppose I need more time on it to really get a grasp of how reliable it is. But even if you got 1 good season out of it you could just buy another for the price of a fork service.
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: Icyseanfitz on November 10, 2022, 03:28:51 PM
Garbage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXXWUoI7OdA

Except he doesn't say it's garbage, Seth actually says he's quite impressed by it, it's only that like me he noticed a certain amount of degradation in performance after riding. I'll pull mine apart at around 500km just to take a good look at it.
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: cst_jpr on November 10, 2022, 03:41:09 PM
Except he doesn't say it's garbage, Seth actually says he's quite impressed by it, it's only that like me he noticed a certain amount of degradation in performance after riding. I'll pull mine apart at around 500km just to take a good look at it.

Don't really care, its not worth risking your life over.
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: Icyseanfitz on November 10, 2022, 04:10:37 PM
Don't really care, its not worth risking your life over.

I mean isn't that kind of the risk with just about anything we talk about on this forum
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: 00Garza on November 10, 2022, 04:26:49 PM
I mean isn't that kind of the risk with just about anything we talk about on this forum

Not necessarily. Most chinese mtb frames have come to the point where if built up competently, you can trust it won't fall apart after one hard trail ride.
Chinese forks just haven't got to that point yet. Subpar materials or craftsmanship in chinese forks means they're not ready for the abuse of real trail riding. Suntour, Xfusion, and low end Rockshox are still the best budget forks. Reliable and serviceable.
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: Icyseanfitz on November 10, 2022, 04:34:54 PM
Not necessarily. Most chinese mtb frames have come to the point where if built up competently, you can trust it won't fall apart after one hard trail ride.
Chinese forks just haven't got to that point yet. Subpar materials or craftsmanship in chinese forks means they're not ready for the abuse of real trail riding. Suntour, Xfusion, and low end Rockshox are still the best budget forks. Reliable and serviceable.

I do agree 100% with you, the fork I got cannot be compared to something like any of the rockshox or fox forks that I own, but for 130euro shipped I have a lightweight functional xc fork, will it be working in a year, nobody knows
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: michaeldepeza on February 22, 2023, 04:03:07 PM
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804776688595.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.912238da1xy98u&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

ive been riding the previous model to this Himalo for over 6mths
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: 00Garza on February 23, 2023, 10:31:22 AM
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804776688595.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.912238da1xy98u&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

ive been riding the previous model to this Himalo for over 6mths

What kind of riding do you do on it? How many miles or kms? Any issues or drop in performance?
Title: Re: Chinese forks
Post by: michaeldepeza on February 25, 2023, 11:59:46 AM
Hey, we have a variety of trails ranging from Enduro Courses to Forest Reserve switchbacks and jumps.

This month i did my very first service and its working great thus far still.