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Wow, seems like there actually are plenty of bars to choose from, thanks for the input. I had the idea to check Yishun where I once ordered some rims and it actually looks like they manufacture the "The One" handlebars...? I think I am going to try the HB058.

https://www.yishunbike.com/product-category/components/components-frames/components-frames-handle-bars/road-bars/

Their HB088 also looks suspiciously similar to the "The One Pro 2022" handlebar/stem combo. While not exactly the same (steerer clamping, topcap interface), there are lots of elements like the cable routing area under the stem and the chamfer along the tops that are identical.

Close but that is not the one bar :) There are a ton of bars available although not many considered very light.

The one I linked above to alibaba, that is the real manufacturer of all "the one pro bar" which is just rebranded/resells. The real manufacturer is on Alibaba.

The one you linked looks very much like the classic Alanera copy from aliexpress. Heavy and cheap. Anything over 350 gram is very heavy.

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I received such a frame from a friend of mine. One of the aluminium BB inserts de-bonded from the frame and since he wasn't too happy about the stiffness of the frame either, he decided not to use it anymore. I could do whatever I wanted with it (I build and repair carbon parts on an amateur level). So I cut it in half.

I will post some pictures later, but a few comments first:
The frame was incredibly light, 728g for a size 54 to be exact (no typo). Since I highly doubt that HM fibers are used in such a frame, I suspect that they simply reduced the amount of stiffness layers to achieve such a low weight. Or some precut pieces fell to the floor and the person laminating the frame decided not to use them anymore ;) That's also in line with the owner's feedback who said the bike felt pretty noodly.

The good: The frame is surprisingly well built, the inside in general looks very clean. No wrinkles and almost no voids.

The bad: The rear dropout for the derailleur hanger I find horrible, it is so thin. This was mentioned in this thread already. The connection where front and rear triangle is glued together is done poorly too. You'll see why on the pics. The integration of the seatpost shape in the seattube isn't a showpiece either (an OEM SL7 seatpost doesn't fit, BTW). The BB area is pretty thin compared to other frames that I cut and honestly, I'm not surprised that one insert decided to part ways.

Would I recommend buying such a frame from a manufacturing/engineering perspective? Absolutely not. I'm not squeamish when it comes to carbon parts but IMHO I'd stay clear from such a frame.

728 gram size 54? How that is that a real S-works weighs.

Mine, same size was 823 gram completely raw.

My build is taking forever to complete but it is with a painter long far away at the moment for some really nice colors. Hopefully done sometime soon! Gonna put it on my trainer to test it out

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An update on dust cap and headtube gap. Copying my response from GF002 thread -

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Also an update on C ring and dust cap fitting about 1.7mm above the top of head tube - from a machinist friend I got my dust cap/base sanded off by a 0.6-0.7mm on the inside (outer part is untouched but the part that rests on C ring is now deeper by 0.7mm) this has solved the problem of unnecessarily large gap.

The dust cap now sits just about 1mm above head tube. Since it rotates, I didn’t want go any more deeper or add spacers. There is no headset play after tightening the top cap.

Anyone having same issue - this something that I won’t recommend doing at home with Dremel (like I originally thought and quickly abandoned ship).

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This last part, thanks to Eucalyptus.

Very glad you got it sorted in the end! A friend with the right tools is always good to have, I have asked for help on many occasions from people better suited for the job  :) ;D
Thanks for the mention too, made my day!

As a matter of fact I actually just finished my headset dilemma today ! What a coincidence. I have shared it on Weightweenies with pictures of how it started and what the finished product looks like. It has been hours and hours of filing and trying to get the right fit with various parts.

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=171366

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Haha wow! I mean sure, it can easily be repaired by a CARBON WORKSHOP not a bikeshop they will tell you to scrap the frame.

But that is a horrible solution from ICAN and also horrible construction. Should be solid carbon or an alloy insert bonded in carbon, not constructed with glue... You simply dont construct critical parts with glue.

Sorry you have to go through this! Also kinda sad the frame is black, would be interesting what else is hiding behind the paint.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: November 15, 2022, 07:06:23 AM »
@Berzerko

extremely nice paintjob. Actually the exact same design I am going for on my next bike! with colors on the upper side tilting forwards like yours with the exception of leaving the bottom halv naked raw carbon. Very very nice indeed!

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The 1056 or R12 will be much better built.  But you've also chosen 3 different bikes with different geo and tube profiles so you might want to think about that.

I highly doubt the 177 layup uses any T1000.  And to call it T1000 as they do is misleading anyway, as even if it did, it'd probably be less than 10%.  Chinese outfits (typically the low quality ones) use the T1000/1100 term interchangeably with high modulus / light weight.  The 177 is relatively light weight.   I'd be skeptical that VB or similar price point frames are using genuine Toray stuff anymore anyway (that's not to say Chinese equivalents are bad), given price rises.

Can guarantee that Velobuild is not using any T1000 carbon. Their frames are amongst the heaviest ones coming out of china!

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This dude fabricated his own. Maybe ask if he can have one more done to sell?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/243368427271925/posts/625391669069597/

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He deleted your comment.

You posted to help people to be careful because he may not be legitimate.

I'm saying it would be great to know his own reasoning for deleting your comment.

Your name is Velovelo....Trace Velo... Velovelo hmm it rings a bell.

Sorry i am just adding gasoline to the fire, trace velo

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Oh dear :D okay thanks again. That section is 2.9mm thick which means the Alix ring is probably not going to help. Also measured both the bearings just in case they were of different thicknesses but they aren’t so no dice there either.

And yes the C ring is really nicely made..has a piano black finish and nice heft to it. Good machining. It came supplied with the frameset by VB.

Hmm 2.9mm is something I haven't seen before, that is very slim.

You could file it down but make sure you do it evenly. Like on a table top or if you have a grinder tool.

Before you do anything, assemble everything again, make sure the bearings are seated nicely in the frame and that the races in the frames is clean, Chinese frames have tendency to look kinda messy. Then put on your C ring, headset cap, stem and top and put preload on everything which will push/pull it all together. If you tighten it down and still have a noticeable gap then go ahead and file it down :)

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Haha no worries, you tried  ;D You measured everything but the important part haha

Try this  :) Both like the way you did it and then also by putting the compression ring on the bearing then you can measure from the bearing shield to the top. See if you get the same measurements by doing both methods.

Apart from that, that compression ring looks really nice to be honest. Is it an upgraded version by Velobuild? It looks nice because the sleeve goes through the bearing meaning it gives more contact area on the steerer tube! Really nice. As you said, the one I linked is very thin but should do the work. Okay maybe not SUPER nice because it is very open in the front.. But I like the thickness

There is also this ring, it wont fit your headset spacer but it is a really nice ring as it gives maximum support on the steerer. Although this one is thicker, 8mm in total and 4.5mm above the bearing (the other one was much slimmer at 3.55mm).
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002628785249.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.2cf21802GaXbPi

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There is one available on Aliexpress
if I measured correctly it should be 3.55mm thick meaning 3.55mm of material above the bearing.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004250632544.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.69031802v6R3BF

You could measure yours, how much it sticks up above the bearing.


I would not really recommend sanding down either the ring or the headset cap. Although if you have a drill press you could! My headset cap only had a 2mm deep cut from the beginning, I also had a compression ring slightly too thick so I used my drill press to evenly remove 1mm of material just like a CNC machine

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This frame is the exact same geometry and frame as the TFSA JH33 (aka. SL7 copy) but with 10mm longer reach and more aero profile.

I received some more info from the seller concerning weight.

Raw naked frame w/o hardware = 963g (size 54)
Fork = 374g
Seatpost = 177g

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: November 02, 2022, 02:29:02 AM »
I placed my order for my 168 on 10/13/22 with custom paint of blue/purple chameleon blue.  To my surprise, I just received the frame 10/31/22.   On the front fork, I noticed the hole for the front brake line is on the right hand side of the steerer tube. I expected the hole to be in the middle of the steerer tube.  Will this be a problem running the brake line from the right side of the steerer tube to the left fork for the disc brake?

Hole placement looks absolutely fine! It is done so for smoother movement between hose/fork/frame to reduce twisting.

Remember to tape the hose, every S-works SL7 I have seen built, the mechanics tape the hose just above the steerer hole to keep the hose in place. Any slack should be inside the frame.

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