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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 22, 2022, 06:49:58 AM »
That is wild!

And I feel sketchy about my fork 2mm too wide  ???

That fork is a death trap!!! How on earth could someone thread in that axle, wrap and pack it in a box and be like "yup yup looks fine to me"


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Here are some sneak peaks of what is going on at the moment.

I rebuilt the entire headset. The SL7 is supposed to have the baseplate + a top cover which builds a lot of stack, around 15mm?

I removed the top covered and added support to the baseplate to increase strength as the support for the steerer tube is SO SMALL/THIN!! Looks insane how thin and poor support it initially is, you can wiggle the entire thing around the steerer. Now it is a much closer fit and increased area supporting the steerer. I cut out my new custom top cover from 3mm carbon by hand using a dremel with 22m diamond discs. Took around 4 hours maybe as it was a lot going back and forth manually with files to get a perfect fit and finish.


At the moment I am rebuilding the entire seatpost. I cut off the top part and used a dremel to remove waste material and now in the progress to rebuild it using regular hardware. Original weight was 193g, I am aiming for maybe 150g :) Which would be really great for a proprietary seatpost.

Should be mentioned, I cut the fork steerer closer to where I think it will be finished. Surprise surprise, it is soooooo uneven wall thickness. UNCUT it looks alright, cut part is terrible. This is definitely alarming, if I am gonna die, I do not know. Is it a death trap? Seller says it is fine and only delaminated forks are replaced.





UNCUT


CUT

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There is some work in progress! Things are moving slowly as there is A LOOOOT of work to do.

I received the frame back 2 weeks ago from my carbon builder in Sweden. He did 4 areas of work on the frame, he fixed the uneven area around the BSA BB. My new BBinifnite BB only touched half the frame once fully tighten. Now after I got it fixed it touches at least 90-95% which is a big improvement.

He also removed the front derailleur and covered up all the holes with UD carbon. He did the same thing with the front right axle mount, so not the axle mount is not visible looking at the fork, it is entirely covered up.

He then improved and increased the strength of the frame where the rear derailleur hanger is mounted. He added a few thin layers of carbon weave to make it like 0.5mm thicker. Not much, but it is an improvement over the thin piece that came from the factory.


Some final words, he said the frame was very well-made and did not see any major death traps. How close he looked, I do not know.

I bought new FSA SL MR128R bearings which are a lot lighter than original, the fit is quite poor so adding a layer of tin foil around the bearings is kinda sorting this problem. I also bought new J&L Thru axles, original is 120xm1.0 + 160m1.0. Front axle is definitely too short, the new J&L is 121 and 163mm, so I will have to file down the rear axle a tiny bit.


Pictures will come as everything is done and I have had the time to make a build projekt thread :)

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 17, 2022, 02:38:08 AM »
Sounds like the geometry of the 168 isn't for everyone. And that's okay. However, you should probably consider yourself lucky...

I have the opposite problem in that most frames simply aren't long and low enough for me without requiring some extreme length stem.

Not sure which is more extreme: Needing to push the saddle far forward to reduce reach over the bottom bracket, or using a 140mm+ stem to accommodate reach while keeping the stack low.

Just watched almost your entire 168 video on YT this morning while having breakfast.

I mean besides the room for improvements and such. You are such a great guy in front of the camera. And with all this "room for improvements" it also have its own charm, you are just starting up and being new with the entire YT influencer thing it is also understandable everything is not perfect.

What I wanna say is, you have  an incredible future ahead of you if you continue doing what you do. With frequent uploads, more content and some improvements you could easily be +100K subs by the end of 2023.

Just keep doing what you do man! More ride videos and more tech savvy stuff :D You are awesome

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 10, 2022, 01:19:24 AM »
I bought mine awhile back, but the brake mounting points were definitely not faced. And it’s been a bit of a pain. Brake calipers are a nightmare to align and even when you get it, it won’t last long.
The tool to face them is crazy expensive, so I plan to just spend the cash and take it to a local shop and pay them to do it. Don’t really have another option haha

My caliper mounts are not faced either.... Nightmare!

There is NOT ONE single shop in Sweden that carries these tools required. 2 shops have the Park tool DT 5.2 but they are missing the crucial part, the diamond cutter accessory, meaning they can only face alloy and steel frames and NOT carbon.

I mean sure it is expensive, but for a shop buying at much lower prices and not a single shop carrying these precious items... Real bummer! Will have to use a file and do it manually.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 06, 2022, 09:27:22 AM »
@Patliean1

Weight? And/or part list with specified weights? :)

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 01, 2022, 01:59:58 AM »
Did that FSA ACR top cap come with the frame?

Otherwise, the problem is that the top cap/compression ring you have is made for recessed bearing frames.

Same issue with my frame as the bearing sits too close to the top. I am not sure which frames are using the recessed method but as FSA is pushing hard and is so popular I will assume there are lots of frames :D

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Bot !reminde me in 365 days

I have no comment about your steerer tube, I just wanna check in next year to see if you are still alive.

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I had the same problem with my VB-099.

Unless we both ordered the wrong FSA headset, then the bottom bearing / bearing seat is slightly oversized for VB 099 / 168.  The FSA bottom bearing won't work.  Way too loose.  Top is fine.  Also the FSA c-clip is too thin ... there's play on my 099.  Going to have to re-do with the fatter new VB one.

Loose, play, you mean between bearing and frame? That could be sorted with tinfoil or something.

I would believe the VB bottom bearing is 8mm and 52mm diameter. The FSA is most likely 7mm and 51.8mm which is very common. Those 0.2mm actually makes a difference but could be fixed with something thin between frame and bearing.

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Be aware that you will find these bearings with different hight, e.g.

I finally went for the stainless steel 7mm version to avoid immediate rust and to extend the maintanence period of a fully integrated headset. These bearings are sitting snug but less recessed compared to yours.

Mine (almost the same frame) came with a 7 upper and 8mm lower bearing.

I replaced both with lightweight FSA MR128R (same as Cane creek AER) 7mm bearings. I do not see any reason to have an 8mm bottom, only increases the gap between frame and fork.

Also, saved like a total of 15 grams with premium lightweight bearings

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VB took it out of the program because it was criticized for being too soft. But that's not the case for me. You go through the thread.

Is yours with RED AXS 7496 gram ready to go? Sorry, checked your posts and last weight I found was from january.

Very intrigued what the weight is with such nice parts :)

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Elilee carbon crankset has passed SGS certification, product launch next week



Where would one even try to find this as a European citizen?

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Of course you should use Loctite on that screw! Blue 243 should do the job

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Sorry, off topic but id like to know what are your thought on the bars? Ive been considering the one pro bars for a while too. And the manufacturer direct price makes them even more tempting.. have you weighed them yet? Also, do they come with two sets of headset covers or something? In this screenshot from the alibaba page, they list type one and type two

Hey thats alright :) There is ZERO information about this bar on the internet so I understand your curiosity! I was gonna save it to later as I am gonna do a huge build thread once I got all pieces together.

But here you go :) This one, I bought directly from the manufacturer on Alibaba it cost me $112 USD on Alibaba + $27 in taxes charged by Alibaba. I then got taxed again but only $11 on Swedish customs borders (main cost is a fee). Seller put value declaration of $11. After some hassle with Alibaba support and tax return request, I then got the $27 back as I was charged twice :)

Weight is pretty decent for a 400x100mm bar. I was first gonna buy the Roval Alpinist as it is only 233 gram for same size, but this one is hundred times more AERO + it got a small degree of flare which is exactly what I was looking for + fully integrated wiring.

I was sceptical at first, cheap bar, no information etc. But WOW!! Not ridden it yet, but my god it feels sturdy in hand. Doesn't matter how much pressure of force I use try to twist it. It is rock solid super stiff.

Finish is TOP NOTCH! I have two 3T aeroghiaia bars which retail €349 euro a piece at 240 gram, they are way more flexy than this one. But they have the same high quality finish. Carbon inside looks very decent and the matte paint is very good. If you put this next to anything else I couldn't tell it was only a hundred bucks.

My intention is to remove the paint and just run naked raw carbon with clearcoat.

350 grams including stem screws and mount (it uses two M6 hex screws and a pushplate against the steerer).

The internal nut fasterners for computer mount works fine too, the classic matte 3K carbon computer mount from Aliexpress works perfect for this application.


The handlebar comes with a few spacers inluding both of the two headset pieces you pictured above. BUT!!!! bear in mind, please go back to my other pictures and you will see that the included compression ring ONLY works with frames with a recessed headset bearing. My bearing is leveled with the frame, hence it will not work as the compression ring is way too thick, therefore I will/have come up with a custom solution that I will try later on.

There are, as discussed earlier in the thread, custom pieces you can buy from one seller on AliE for different frame models. But they charge $63 USD for a Tarmac SL7 adapter which is ridiculous for a plastic piece considering the entire bar is just twice the price.

Again, it is incredible stiff by my judgement. There is just no way I can put any flex in it by twisting the bar ends.


!!! AND a very important thing to notice!! I bought the 400mm wide version, but they measure C-C bar ends. So the real measurement is 385mm C-C hood to hood. Which is perfect for me as I like it narrow, but maybe not for all.

So if you are using a 400 bar and want 400mm hood to hood, go up one size :)

Here is the link to the manufacturer, the ones on Aliexpress are just re-sellers with branding. There is also a gravel version of the same bar with wider bar ends. As Alibaba is usually, mainly B2B, I chose the "samle version" to only buy one handlebar.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/T1000-Carbon-Bike-Handlebar-Fully-Internal_1600457733782.html?spm=a2756.order-detail-ta-bn-b.0.0.3acc2fc2w9Nt1I




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