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Other Resources => After The Ride => Topic started by: Rigid_Bloke on June 20, 2014, 09:17:12 PM
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So while I love my current iPhone 4s, I'm due for an upgrade and those huge bright Android screens are calling out to me.
So, what's your preference?
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Android all the way for me, LG G2 to be exact.
About the only thing I'd consider switching too is the Nexus 5 for the bare bones Android OS, but the screen on my G2 is just absolutely ridiculous. It comes preloaded with some HD videos that literally look 3D. Everyone is always amazed when I show them those vids. Probably one of the most impressed I've been with a piece of tech gear is the G2's screen. The button on the backside I highly prefer as well.
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My 4S contract expired last November. It still works perfectly. I didn't upgrade to a snazzy new phone because the 4G network doesn't extend to our neck of the woods yet (only 3-4 miles away which is frustrating!). I'm on a rolling monthly plan and just waiting to see what the next gen iPhone looks like in September.
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Honestly you cant go wrong with either.
Once iphones come out with larger screensizes even less to worry about as any choice will be good. However there are distinctions worth knowing. iPhones are very much made to be simplistic and APP driven. Where as Android phones will do far more out of the box than an iPhone and have virtually limitless possibilities in terms of customizing.
Its honestly like asking should I get a HT or FS. Without knowing your likes , habits , and trails its hard to tell. If forced to make a comparison iPhone is getting a brand new carboned out Scott or S works bike while Android is very much like putting together a carbon custom.
Video watching , picture taking , picture and web media sharing , social networking , work needs , file management needs , other devices etc etc. Give an idea of what your current needs are and what youve heard other people do you may want to do.
Heck neither may be the right choice. If you're a shopaholic Amazons firephone may be right also.
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I've always had a good experience with my iPhones (4S, 5) and have stuck with the Apple biosphere. We have a Macbook Pro, two iPads, and one iPod (never thought I'd see dedicated MP3 players go obsolete but they pretty much are). My iPhone does everything I could want or need it to do. I like working on bikes, I don't like fiddling with my phone. My iPhone just works, never locks up, has really good battery life, nice size, good camera.
I had one Android phone before my 4S, I won't go into details but it was a less than stellar experience.
From what I've read, the iPhone 6 will have a larger, brighter screen as an option. They will have two sizes available.
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So true about the obsolete mp3 players. I literally probably have about 7 or 8 random ipods and other mp3 players just sitting around doing nada.
I vote Android. Hardware (screen size) is just so much better. Apple OS is very sleek and refined though, and there total biosphere is just as refined. Simple and beautiful to use.. But come on.. thos big screens just make the Iphone look like a toy.
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Voted Android.
Apple's software is very nice and "seamless" if that makes sense, but they are closed platform so innovation seems to take longer. I'm a pretty big tech fan. Here's Google's latest I/O conference - Watch the vid if you get a chance. Good stuff.
Funny stat from the vid:
93 million selfies are taken on Android phones daily
30 million of those are duck faces
I have never taken a selfie or a pic with a duck face. lol.
http://youtu.be/wtLJPvx7-ys
They are launching the Android One phone, a smart phone for under a hundred bucks, and they are aiming them directly at countries like India, Africa, etc. How big will the Google monster grow.
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I've watched parts of that vid already. And it is good but the whole thing is 3 hours long and full of a lot of stuff that is only interesting if you're a developer or designer.. Here's a good summary: http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/25/5842050/the-most-important-things-google-announced-at-i-o
The smart watches are getting pretty close to being wearable, maybe even there already. I'm really surprised Apple hasn't attacked the smart watch market at all. One of the things they show in the video is your smart watch will act like your micro chipped car key that unlocks your car automatically when that specific key is close by.. If you have your watch on, your phone will recognize the watch and won't require you to unlock it. Take the watch off and you will have to enter your password or pin to unlock the phone. Thought that was pretty cool.
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A huge number of young people, do not wear watches anymore. They have grown up with a phone in their pocket and feel they don't want or need to wear something on their wrist. The smart watch has already been available on and off for years, so far it has not taken off. Possibly when Apple comes out with theirs later this year, they will sell a bunch but it's an gadget that's an accessory to another gadget, just don't see it being all that popular no matter how cool it looks.
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Hello again,
My angle on the phone thing is a must see:
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Hello again,
My angle on the phone thing is a must see:
Lol. Every forum needs at least one wild card member, I suppose. Never know what you're going to post, Inertia.
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A huge number of young people, do not wear watches anymore. They have grown up with a phone in their pocket and feel they don't want or need to wear something on their wrist. The smart watch has already been available on and off for years, so far it has not taken off. Possibly when Apple comes out with theirs later this year, they will sell a bunch but it's an gadget that's an accessory to another gadget, just don't see it being all that popular no matter how cool it looks.
Hmm... I do see your points, and they are logical but I gotta disagree.. I think tons of people will buy them, and they will replace cell phones for many uses and applications.
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I have a Galaxy Gear watch and the proximity unlock is such a time and thumb saver. Google alluded to different methods like detecting your voice to know you are the one holding the phone.
As for wearables itll take time. People have been buying fitbits and Fuelbands in droves....not really using them much but still they are buying them. Apple is extremely late to the game but fortunately for them traction is non existent as the aesthetics of these watches if putrid as a whole. I love mine but its really not for everyone. The Gwatch is ugly as sin. The Gear fit is better in pictures than in person. Moto360 with the roundface will be first really "Watch" like one that may actually be stylish. Apple will surely come out with something very plain but sexy that the masses will suddenly hail as a must have. We're just currently in a feeling out period. Everyone wants a wrap around all screen watch on there wrist...we aren't there yet. Maybe apple will force everyones hand.
As for Android. Nothing really intense as far as features were shown for phones but the UI is again taking huge leaps while iOS is stagnant.
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Once again very good comments.
In retrospect I carried my basic Nokia even after
the providers nasty disconnect letter. I found
additional battery packs to keep it going then one day
an individual gave me an upgrade. The out dated flip phone
was moved sideways and without contract using my ol'number
I still had my connection. I did no texting except for unusual matters
of safety. Then a family member shared w/me the great nature of savings
but more so the state of the art device; and
although not an Android base thing It's opened up a world of connectivity
and access to pod casts etc. (big Audio user) The learning curve on my part is still
at introductory levels But the audio performance of just the ear buds equals or exceeds
some of my few better headphones. It's always exciting to rehear all matter of stuff especially
little guitar or vocal or a noise from a drumstick too. From monks chanting to Hammond B-3 riffs
to hot Les Paul runs are really unbelievably clean.
Consumers will drive these items as currently established by this survey. But at the same time science too
has ideas and I think further miniaturization is the quest. Projected to the point that as in just as few as 10-15 years
injectable data bases enabled to diagnose our internal issues in real time environment.
In closing the device in my pocket during the late 60's would fill
the fuselage of a mid sized DC 10? Going along would up on our desktops and now
reside in hand or pocket. it's amazing!
well time to 'fly off'
ovr-n-out
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(http://gjackson.us/ruminations/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Dick-Tracy-Wrist-Radio-looking-left-718949-284x300.jpg)
Just like the three wheel car, these ideas have been around a long time. I think the watches won't really take off until they can replace a phone, and they can somehow overcome the small screen.
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I'm definitely an Apple fan boy. They just had their big yearly release event, today: http://www.apple.com/live/2014-sept-event/
Iphone 6 looks awesome, but I'm not so certain about the watch. We'll see.
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I used Android for years but I wanted a way to upload files from my Garmin while bikepacking so I picked up a 3gs for £30 on ebay, I now have a 4s and the android devices are in a drawer. It's so much nicer when stuff 'just works', it also makes life so much easier given I already use OSX on the macbook and my hackintosh.
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My wife and I watched the Keynote speech last night, I will be upgrading to the iPhone 6 (not the 6 plus, it's too big) and my wife wants the Apple watch.
Until I saw the Keynote speech, I thought the watch was just another phone accessory, it's not. The Apple watch has so many more functions than what's already on the market that I now see why Apple thinks they can get $349 for it. The user interface is impressive for such a small device.
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Hmmm... for the first time ever I'm actually considering an Apple phone. Those are some seriously sexy looking gadgets, and it's about time they got some bigger screens.
I actually missed the keynote speech which I usually watch.. CD.. mind sharing what you think are some of the stand out features of the watch? They will have ZERO problems getting $349 for it, imo.
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For those in the "It just works" camp: how you used a flagship Android powered phone made in the past two years? I'm not talking a free-on-contract POS or a DROID 1 from 4 years ago, but have you used an HTC ONE, Samsung Galaxy S4/S5, Nexus 4/5, MotoX, Samsung Note 3/4 etc? These phones are all EXTREMELY functional and perform every bit as good as the comparable iPhone (and better in many respects).
I think the first two or three generations of Android devices were hit or miss and many were downright trash. But they have come a LONG way in the past 2-3 years. I think (my personal opinion) that they have come much further, much faster than their Apple counterparts. So much so that I think there is no practical gap between them. If anything, Apple is playing catch-up at this point. This become obvious as you look at the features they are adding to iOS 8 and the screen size change.
It's a bummer that the first couple of generation of Android phones where so unpolished. It turned a lot of people off to them. And now these people claim to feel too in-grained or "bought-into" the Apple ecosystem to leave. The reality is that switching is actually very easy. Most every major app is on both platforms or has a identical counterpart. Media is easily transferred. No one wants to give them a chance though. It's also strange when people do take a chance, they often flip out about little nuances that they would accept on the iPhone, but profess to be insanely annoyed about on an Android phone. It's at that stage, I realize those people just want the iPhone for the status/branding. And that's fine. But admit it. Don't make excuses for why the Android counterpart is inferior.
I think the iPhone is a super solid product. I would recommend it for my mom or others any day. It is well built and well supported. What annoys me about the thing though is the arrogance that often surrounds it. It is not magical. It is not superior. It has several faults. As do all devices.
The arrogance of Apple and the brainwashing of it's userbase/blind fanfare drive me up the wall. I've been paying with my phone for years. YEARS. Apple invented it yesterday and the media is giddy. I was teased unmercifully about the size of my phones for years even after I tried to show them the benefits to a larger screen. Those very people were discussing plans to buy the iPhone 6 Plus at dinner last night. Incredible. My boss walked over today to tell me all about the ultra secure "Secure Element" chip Apple installed for Apple Pay with the new iPhone 6. I had to bite my tongue; Secure Element is NOT an Apple invention. It has been around for years with successful implementation. These are all minor, first-world problems in the scheme of life. But they are certainly annoying. :)
I have a Nexus 5 from Google for what it's worth. It's a fine phone. I would recommend it to anyone. It cost me $350 brand new unlocked.
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I started with a 3Gs.
Then I received a Nexus Android at a Google I/O conference, an switched.
Used it for about 2 years.
Although the processor was more powerful, it was somehow lagging compared to the 3Gs.
I read since that the screen of the iPhone were reacting twice as fast to touch compared to all other android phones on the market.
This is probably why they looked so better.
Now I have an iPhone 5, and looking for good reasons to explain my wife I want the 6 :)
Then I bought recently the Moto G for the kids.
I was very surprised how good they are for the price, and the new Android OS is far better than before.
And I'm seriously thinking to buy a Moto G or Moto E, as a bike computer.
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Hmmm... for the first time ever I'm actually considering an Apple phone. Those are some seriously sexy looking gadgets, and it's about time they got some bigger screens.
I actually missed the keynote speech which I usually watch.. CD.. mind sharing what you think are some of the stand out features of the watch? They will have ZERO problems getting $349 for it, imo.
User interface, something Apple does an amazing job with, appears to be designed very well. Styling has three options for a broad appeal to nearly everyone. Not mention the amount of customization.
The number of Apps will also be huge, and probably more useful than any other smart watch on the market, the level of IC integration looks to be a first for a watch.
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There are already far more Android Wear apps for watches than there are iOS apps for watches. And there will be for at least the next 4 months...
How can you say the UI is better on the Apple Watch without A) using one or even seeing any sort of finished product and B) using any of the new Android Wear devices?
Also, you can't seriously tell me that this:
(http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/iWatch-options-980x651.jpg)
Looks better than this:
(http://cdn1.expertreviews.co.uk/sites/expertreviews/files/0/97//moto_360_optional_straps.jpg?itok=IFpvx8WH)
;D
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Although the processor was more powerful, it was somehow lagging compared to the 3Gs.
I read since that the screen of the iPhone were reacting twice as fast to touch compared to all other android phones on the market.
This is probably why they looked so better.
The response issue has been long resolved in recent revisions. Side by side, the Nexus 5 is every bit as fluid as the iP5. I would admit if there was a difference. With my previous Android phones, it was noticeable. It is now non-existent.
The MotoG is a really nice piece of kit for the price. The MotoX is far better, but you pay a bit more.
The always listening feature on my wife's MotoX is incredible. She can wake it up from across the room with her voice "Ok Google". It will not respond to my voice as it knows her voice. How neat is that? She sets alarms, appointments, reminders, responds to text messages while driving, and finds her phone when it is lost WITHOUT EVER TOUCHING THE PHONE! When we ride our bikes on the road, the phone notifies her of text messages, gives her the option to read them to her, then allows her to dictate a response, WITHOUT TOUCHING THE PHONE! It's super cool. That's the type of innovation I love so much about Android and the Android OEMs.
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There are already far more Android Wear apps for watches than there are iOS apps for watches. And there will be for at least the next 4 months...
How can you say the UI is better on the Apple Watch without A) using one or even seeing any sort of finished product and B) using any of the new Android Wear devices?
Also, you can't seriously tell me that this:
(http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/iWatch-options-980x651.jpg)
Looks better than this:
(http://cdn1.expertreviews.co.uk/sites/expertreviews/files/0/97//moto_360_optional_straps.jpg?itok=IFpvx8WH)
;D
I work for Motorola...
Despite the obvious differences, Apple will outsell any other smartwatch by a factor of 10 to 1, just by the very fact that Apple has great marketing.
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If you work for Motorola, I'm going to need some proof. Say a Moto360... Or another MotoX... Send it my way. ;D
And there is no doubt that Apple will outsell any of its competitors. They produce a decent product with good support and their distribution channels are robust. And above all else, they are phenomenal advertisers and are adept at capturing mindshare. No one can deny them that.
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Sorry, unfortunately (or fortunately) I actually work for Motorola Solutions. Some of the Mobility guys are in our building, but are now owned by Lenovo. So technically Motorola as you may know it is not Motorola anymore. They have been outsourced :( to China.
My day to day cool products I work with look more like this:
(http://www.motorolasolutions.com/web/Business/Products/Two-way%20Radios/Portable%20Radios/APX_4000_P25/_Images/_StaticFiles/APX-4000_M3_front.jpg)
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Yeah, I was bummed about the sale to Lenovo. I was unhappy with Google for that move. It looks like my company is getting sold to the Germans. I hate to see these American greats disappear. But onwards I suppose.
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I just found this picture. This looks a bit more palatable than the candy blue band... I still like the traditional round face.
(http://i.imgur.com/gYo9xKS.jpg)