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Re: Epic Evo Clone I still didn’t like the original color of the frames and decided to remove the paint from it.
October 12, 2023, 12:45:49 PM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
How much does it weigh when assembled with all the parts?
the weight of the frame assembled with shock absorber is 1920 grams.Complete bicycle 9465 grams

October 15, 2023, 02:26:18 AM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
Wow great weight of your frame with shock.
Do you finish the build?
Is the frame from Airwolf?
frame is from airwolf, builld finished with pedals and cages 8.98kg
I might send a picture later.

November 07, 2023, 11:17:53 AM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
maybe I missed it. How much lighter is the frame after removing the paint?
For 120 grams.

November 09, 2023, 12:23:32 PM
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Re: Spcycle 2023 New Travel 120mm Super Light 29er full suspension frame
See some people have ordered, but nobody is reporting... Does anyone actually have one yet?

Arrived this afternoon

November 28, 2023, 12:03:12 AM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone The adventure has begun.

I contacted Airwolf asking which mounting kit I should order for the shock I'll use (Rockshox Select+), and they assured me all the proper parts were included. But it turns out they aren't fitting so I went to a shop to find an appropriate kit.

While I was there they pointed out a few quality control issues with my frame that have me a bit concerned, and I wonder what others might think.

- The rear dropout holes aren't perfectly round, looks like someone went to town with a router a little too outside the line.

- The headtube where the headset cups go in is a bit off, not as exactly even as it probably should be. Looks like a sketchy layup.

- The bottom bracket threads are rough and should probably be finished again before inserting the bottom bracket.

I will follow up with photos later if there's any interest, but for now, I wonder how much further I should go with this build. My mechanic who spotted all this is solid and not just trying to steer me to another frame. I'm not completely against keeping it and moving ahead if I can get over these issues on my own, but it's discouraging after waiting so long and finally having the frame in my hands. Otherwise, the frame seems perfectly legit and if these issues weren't present I'd feel confident bombing down all my normal hills on it (I'm old and skinny, don't go hard, I'll never break a typical XC frame).

I'm pretty suspect at this point.

December 08, 2023, 12:00:15 PM
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Re: Spcycle 2023 New Travel 120mm Super Light 29er full suspension frame
what weight?

1640gr

December 11, 2023, 03:58:15 AM
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Re: Yishunbike R1058-D I haven't weight the individual components as for me with 94kg it's not really relevant. ;)
I ordered the normal version; but as my final build with a mix of Sram RED, Force components is at 7,8kg I would guess it's close to what's mentioned on their website.

February 29, 2024, 03:51:34 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) Am I right, that you didn't consider the mandatory spacer? It's like the difference between specialized's SL6 and SL7/8. On paper the frames are more aggressive. But if you take the mandatory spacer into account, they are the same. So you have to add so m up the stack füre these frames!
March 05, 2024, 06:00:39 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
It just so happens that the Taipei Bike Show is happening this weekend, and I will go check it out.  I know Longteng has a booth, and likely other Chinese OEMs as well.  I'll report back on anything interesting.  (Let me know if anyone has any specific requests or questions in my DMs ... but I won't take requests for Hambini hairdresser pics, sorry....)

Just got back from the Taipei Bike Show – today was B2B and not open to the public, sh*t!.  I was dying to get in, so I ran down the street to the 7/11 and printed out a bogus business card and got in lol…

Of the Chinese open mold manufacturers, I only saw LightCarbon and Longteng.  Velobuild didn’t attend.  (And I didn’t see a presence from other Chinertown favorites like Elitewheels, Ltwoo, Winspace, Magene, etc.)  But I did get to see the LC017 and the LT266 in person, and got some intel on a new LT301 that will be released in a few months:

LC017: yes the downtube is quite boxy, but in person it looks/feels a bit more rounded than what’s on their website.  And the seat tube is rounded, not at all like the seat tube shown on their website.  Here is a video that I took: https://imgur.com/a/PNHdhI5.  It’s a niiiiice looking frame.

Interestingly, I saw several high-end bikes at the show with similarly boxy down tubes with sharp edges, including the Giant TCR, a Bianchi, a Bianchi Raparto Corse, and a Java Volata that won a gold award at the show: https://imgur.com/a/NEb8cpZ.  I talked to one of the bike designers and asked them about the design choice, and he said that they use less materials to keep the bike light weight, and squares are stronger than curved shapes.  In other words, for an all-arounder, they sacrificed certain aero gains in favor of weight savings.  I’m not engineer so I have no idea if this is true, I’m just relaying what one of the bike designers at the show said to me.

LT266: from my amateur eyes, this looks like a really well-made frame.  Alisa from Longteng was at the show, and she told me that it’s made from a one piece monocoque mold, so they can achieve a higher degree of uniformity and quality control.  The tubes are more rounded than the LC017.  Interestingly, she told me that they are testing an unannounced frame, the LT301, I’m posting the geometry and a short video here: https://imgur.com/a/XvH327j.  It looks to have a more aero profile than the LT266 and LC017 but still weighs under 1000g.  Alisa said they just finished testing the 54cm frame, and are going through tests for the other sizes – it will be a few months before they start selling it, although if anyone wants a 54, it’s available if you contact Alisa directly.  (OT: I asked which brands Longteng acts as OEM for, the only thing I could get out of Alisa was that they make a few frames for Argon.)

Does this help with my bike choice?  I probably will go with one of these and not the Velobuild frames, since I’ve seen and touched them in person.  Between the LC017 and LT266?  I have no idea….

That’s all I have, cheers.

March 07, 2024, 01:25:48 AM
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