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As long as we're plugging frames that we like, here's what I ride and can recommend: https://www.ornanbike.com/r908-d-gravel_c62
Here's what I also considered and tbh I still kinda want one, just not crazy about the internal routing on gravel: https://www.yishunbike.com/product/g085-dadventure-gravel/
A value option that's ready to go: https://www.poseidonbike.com/products/dropbar-x?variant=43191079633124
I'm not crazy about the quick release situation on the Poseidon, but having owned two of them they just work. Very solid bikes. I converted one of them to thru axle with carbon wheels and full hydraulic 2x groupset and it was pretty awesome.
I'd recommend looking for a used one, they come up all the time for much cheaper.
1000km Update!
Still in love with this frame. Stiff, rides like a dream and it fits my body type very well (loong arms) . Brake misalignment issue is still only 99% fixed, as I still have some disc rubbing when I go out of the saddle. Still hoping this will eventually fade when the brake pads bed in more, but I might have to do some more effort into re-centering again.
However, I don't have any issues with the frame. No cracks, no creaking, no rattling. Nothing!
Please use Jagwire foam over the cables...I cannot stress this enough.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C32KBG9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Both Sebastian & I have the same frame & there is a rattle in the front on mine & it can get really annoying, so be liberal with the foam & you can always trim it later
Still looking forward to a community inspired bike frame, i.e. "ChinerTown" (...to agree on a suitable name) official frame with UCI certification, on which all our needs are met
I've seen a few frighteningly cheap 3d printed saddles. They don't look great, and they're listed by stores that have been opened in the last few months. Not confidence inspiring.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805676326754.html
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805589725092.html
If you have a long torso you would want a longer reach with a high stack generally which would mean you would be getting further forward than most people(?). If you have a lot of spacers under your stem i'd advise the longer expander plug.
I have a 50mm expander on my forks, the only downside from my understanding is slight weight increase.
Yes, no, I mean, that part I understood. I should have added that I was referring to your second sentence (about the non-expanding bottom portion being able to provide structure - this would depend on the fit of that portion in the steerer).
This should only work if the non-expanded portion would fit very snugly into the steerer tube; meaning the plug would have to be made for one specific inner dia and to really close tolerances (as far as "tolerances" go on the non-controlled surface of a cf part, at least). Text says something about SL7 forks ...
(In which case one could ask if an expander was needed at all. But that's probably another topic.)
I mean I have experience with the Deemount and it's good. I can't comment on the second one but it certainly looks interesting, may be a bit too long even. The black extension below the actual expander plug - I'm not clear on what purpose it serves.
