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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: pearl on March 01, 2023, 05:43:09 PM
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Howdy friends, looking for something similar to the Enve carbon aero bar. I want a slight flare and want it to be pretty narrow up top, looking at the 37cm up top.
Any suggestions? I’ve scoured Ali express but nothing seems to fit the bill as much as I’d like.
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There's this - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003336228394.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.97.75141802Iq9g55
Which I ordered in 38 CM I haven't really rode it much as it was on one of my back-up bikes but it is stiff.
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Thank you! Any real life photos of it installed on your rig?
Can you put a standard garmin mount on the bar besides the stem, or does it need the stem one for it?
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Hey Pearl!
Unfortunately, no pictures of it as I'm currently spending the winter away from home base.
I think it would be better with a stem GPS mount but while I was using that setup I used the elastic mount on top of the stem as I didn't have a second handlebar mount by then.
If you are patient I'll be back home for the start of April and can definitely snap pics then as I will be using the handlebar on my new build!
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interesting, im torn between these and the RXL ones I found on Amazon, mostly because i can return to amazon without any drama...
https://www.amazon.com/drop-bars-road-bike-handlebar/dp/B0B254K156?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1
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I have slightly different RXL bars from Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RLMR1SK and I can confirm that those are positively shite. Super flexy and ICR is painful. The holes for ICR are tiny and unfinished. All my cables were scratched trying to put them thru. If you do go ahead with this model, let us know. I might switch to them.
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oof maybe ill stay away then...
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I was looking at these personally as they are a bit lighter then the F'enve's
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004464102843.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.6a8138dagfEsou&mp=1 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004464102843.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.6a8138dagfEsou&mp=1)
slight flare for the 38 they measure 37 H to H and 39 D to D.
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i did see those too, but it looks like the EC90 bar? i'm looking to put them on my gravel bike... so worried about destroying it!
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i did see those too, but it looks like the EC90 bar? i'm looking to put them on my gravel bike... so worried about destroying it!
Identical to the EC90 bar, which I just picked up from Aliexpress. The set I have has a crappy finish, you can see some "ridges" in the layup, but it's stiff enough and functional. The ridges would be kind of annoying if I ever rode the tops, but I don't, so f' it. Can't complain for how inexpensive they are and the less than two weeks shipping to California.
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well i pulled the trigger on two of these for both my road bikes... lets see how this goes!
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803149913642.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.97.75141802Iq9g55&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US
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Got these in this weekend and put them on, the cons I had/experienced:
The clamping area seems bigger than 31.6 compared to my Zipp stem. I went to tighten them and heard some crunching, maybe it was my fault for going to 5nm, but I seemed to have to "jam" it in.
On my Deda stem I did not have this issue.
Getting the controls onto the bars was kind of rough, I had to wiggle them to the point that there was enough heat generated on the metal clamp for my levers, if that makes sense. Again, seems like its too "thick" compared to a regular handle bar.
Once I got everything in place and torqued to 4nm on the Deda stem, they felt solid. It's my first run with carbon handlebars so seeing any sort of "flex" is kind of weird, but they felt sturdy on the quick spin I took yesterday. I plan to take my gravel bike with these bars for a true test this weekend, fingers crossed, and that will be the true test!
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Hey Pearl!
Unfortunately, no pictures of it as I'm currently spending the winter away from home base.
I think it would be better with a stem GPS mount but while I was using that setup I used the elastic mount on top of the stem as I didn't have a second handlebar mount by then.
If you are patient I'll be back home for the start of April and can definitely snap pics then as I will be using the handlebar on my new build!
Hey Pearl I’d be curious to know how these fit/feel when you start using them.
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getting used to the flare at the moment, everything feels comfortable to me at the moment! i'll get some photos of them shortly. Hardest thing right now is lining them up to be straight/even lol
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Taking the gamble on aliexpress carbon Aero Handlebars doesn't seem worth it imo, they all seem to be very prone to cracks.
You can pickup a pair of prime doyenne aluminum aero handlebars from wiggle for what, $75 aud? and carbon for $275
I have the aluminum version on two of my bikes and they look really nice especially if you reverse wrap with no tape and don't wrap the flat tops.
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You can pickup a pair of prime doyenne aluminum aero handlebars from wiggle for what, $75 aud? and carbon for $275
Was looking for these but the size I want is sold out.
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Another co-sign here for both the Prime alloy and carbon aero handlebars. I've been using both for years and are fantastic.
It's a shame Wiggle/Chain Reaction can't see to keep these bars in-stock, but I understand. They are a fantastic value.
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It seems like RXL is hit or miss, but I've been riding with these flared carbon bars for several months on two road bikes and they work great. Most of my riding is climbing and descending so I prefer the slightly wider drops. I find them adequately stiff, but they still do a decent job of absorbing road chatter.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803093583495.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803093583495.html)
They're also available on US Amazon if you're impatient:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B28NHVXS (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B28NHVXS)
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Taking the gamble on aliexpress carbon Aero Handlebars doesn't seem worth it imo, they all seem to be very prone to cracks.
You can pickup a pair of prime doyenne aluminum aero handlebars from wiggle for what, $75 aud? and carbon for $275
I have the aluminum version on two of my bikes and they look really nice especially if you reverse wrap with no tape and don't wrap the flat tops.
I like that they have a decent looking aluminum bar option at a reasonable price. The 75mm reach makes it something I'd be interested in as well. But, $275 puts the carbon option out of consideration when there would be so many other brands to look at in that price range.
I would also like to know why you think all aliexpress carbon bars are prone to cracking. I took the gamble on a set of EC90 bars and I'm pleased so far. It has cosmetic issues, but seems well built enough to not have to worry about it imploding in the middle of a hard sprint.
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I like that they have a decent looking aluminum bar option at a reasonable price. The 75mm reach makes it something I'd be interested in as well. But, $275 puts the carbon option out of consideration when there would be so many other brands to look at in that price range.
I would also like to know why you think all aliexpress carbon bars are prone to cracking. I took the gamble on a set of EC90 bars and I'm pleased so far. It has cosmetic issues, but seems well built enough to not have to worry about it imploding in the middle of a hard sprint.
I agree with you on the prime carbon are a bit pricy at $275 the aluminum is very reasonably priced however.
In terms of aliexpress carbon bars, i've watched a lot of vids involving full china builds & read a lot forum posts and overall people have a positive time when it comes to their builds, however the one component in the builds that frequently have issues is the carbon bars. They are either incredibly flexy to the point that aluminum is far better, develop cracks after a month of normal use, or have holes that are so poorly drilled they cause issues with build and require some work from the customer.
Like all cheaper carbon parts there's always a risk to gain you are willing to take, for me at least, the 200g saving isn't worth the potential broken bones from carbon handlebars snapping on me.
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if someone can suggest a bar with 38mm tops, flaring to 40 or 42mm thats aluminum, i'll buy that instead lol
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if someone can suggest a bar with 38mm tops, flaring to 40 or 42mm thats aluminum, i'll buy that instead lol
This will most likely be my next handlebar purchase. I've been eyeing getting a SEKA frameset soon, and the extra reach on these bars will be perfect. You may need to plan your stem length according however. I suspect these will be just has fantastic as Prime's alloy bars, except the claimed weight on these are lighter by 50-55 grams.
https://www.fsaproshop.com/products/trimax-aero-alloy-handlebar (https://www.fsaproshop.com/products/trimax-aero-alloy-handlebar)
FSA Trimax Aero Alloy Handlebar
• Alloy construction
• 7° Forward angle
• Cable groove compatible with new Di2 systems w/larger internal cable tunnel
• 125mm drop, 90mm reach
• 4 degree outward bend
• 310 grams (420mm)
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This will most likely be my next handlebar purchase. I've been eyeing getting a SEKA frameset soon, and the extra reach on these bars will be perfect. You may need to plan your stem length according however. I suspect these will be just has fantastic as Prime's alloy bars, except the claimed weight on these are lighter by 50-55 grams.
https://www.fsaproshop.com/products/trimax-aero-alloy-handlebar (https://www.fsaproshop.com/products/trimax-aero-alloy-handlebar)
FSA Trimax Aero Alloy Handlebar
• Alloy construction
• 7° Forward angle
• Cable groove compatible with new Di2 systems w/larger internal cable tunnel
• 125mm drop, 90mm reach
• 4 degree outward bend
• 310 grams (420mm)
Which stem would you be using? Seka uses a proprietary headset cover shape so you'd need their adapter for conventional stems (https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=167579&start=420#p1765908)
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Which stem would you be using? Seka uses a proprietary headset cover shape so you'd need their adapter for conventional stems (https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=167579&start=420#p1765908)
Thank you once again SW for chiming in. Had no idea SEKA included that adapter if requested.
I'm opting for my own stem, only in the event a 400/130 integrated cockpit isn't easily available from SEKA or their Aussie dealer. Just a standard ZIPP stem if need be.
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Has anyone tried out the stem from the ali or the same seller?
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So I have about 8 hours between the two handlebars and so far so good. 7 of those hours were road miles (on my all road bike). Minus trying to get my hoods in the exact position I want them to and getting comfortable on them, they have been good.
I rode the ones on my gravel bike on my local MTB trail today for the first time and I was nervous, but they did not let me down either. At first I was concerned but about halfway through my ride I totally forgot about it.
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They look great, thanks for the feedback!
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I’m running three different carbon bars from OG Evkin and I think these bars strike a particularly good middle ground. Not too light. Not too expensive but also not too cheap. They seem to be well made and well finished. Yes, you might get rough edges at the entry and exit holes on the bars but that doesn’t bother me. That’s a problem that can be solved in a matter of minutes with a small file.
I’ve been running one of these bars - an aero bar with internal cabling - on my steel road bike for more than three years and about 15.000km with no issues. I do actually own the Prime Primavera carbon bars, first generation. And while these are stiffer, the cheaper OG Evkin bars are much comfier to ride on. And they don’t slow me down in sprints. After riding these bars for that long, I definitely trust them. I also run a standard round carbon bar on my commuter that I even crashed on. It held up fine. No damage.
With all that said: I do agree that there’s a risk involved. But I also had FSA Wing Pro alloy bars develop cracks. Still, I’d probably never put 30USD carbon bars on an MTB and bomb down huge drops. For those kind of use cases I’d still prefer metal bars from a reputable brand.
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Did a 50 mile gravel race with these, filled with potholes and other big hits to them and they are still kicking. Big confidence booster.