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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: Manfrotto on April 20, 2024, 12:11:35 AM
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Simon from GCN was in the states at Sea Otter and did a tech video. He showed off the Sava Dream Maker. I have never heard of the brand but they now have a US distribution centre. The prices are very cheap for full bikes just need a set up when they arrive like Canyon. Does anyone have any experience with them. Are those Shimano parts genuine do you think?
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The look is just absolutely amazing, more news apreciated
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It has been on AliExpress for more than 6mths:
SAVA New Dream Maker Full Carbon Bike with SHIMAN0 Di2 8170 24S Hydraulic Disc Brakes Aerodynamic Design Race Class Road Bike
https://a.aliexpress.com/_opvDrbg
Was originally interested and I asked for the details. But one look at the geometry and I decided it wasn't for me.
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The stack is low and the reach is long and there doesn't seem to be any way to adjust it.
I think anyone who can ride in this position is sure to be aero.:)
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i hope that thing doesn't take off (metaphorically). this should remain nothing but a concept bike imo
integrated handlebars is one thing, STI is another, but a whole proprietary fork+handlebars combo? we need to go back. maybe not to downtube friction shifters but what's next? onepiece frame and seatpost? oh wait. shifters welded to handlebars from the factory, claiming a 40% stiffness improvement? this whole thing is ridiculous, convenience and fit be damned. it's probably not even faster
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They didn't review shit, just showed it off. There were supposed to be a lot of different cockpit options available to suit anybody but beats me where that is, maybe its available for china.
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They have a lot of humor: 11566.89 euros (why not three numbres after the decimal point as for the petrol) for the Ultegra Di2. Even on sale at 5783.45 euros, several options from renowned brands are available to us
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The listed prices on ali are never real, 99.95% of the time the "discounted" price is the real price
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I don't get why all the hate for the frame, it's not like they're forcing anyone to buy it. Love it or hate, it even got GCN's attention. I'd say the publicity has worked in Sava's favor.
Sava has more traditional bikes in their line-up and the builds look quite respectable in terms of components and weights.
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It's not hate it's valid criticism that it's an objectively bad design if you actually want to make money selling it. I think it's the coolest looking bike out there and I'd love to have one just for the sake of it, but I'd never spend money on it if I wanted a bike to actually use
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I don't get why all the hate for the frame, it's not like they're forcing anyone to buy it. Love it or hate, it even got GCN's attention. I'd say the publicity has worked in Sava's favor.
Sava has more traditional bikes in their line-up and the builds look quite respectable in terms of components and weights.
Awesome man, when are you taking delivery of yours? Looking forward to the review.
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They have a lot of humor: 11566.89 euros (why not three numbres after the decimal point as for the petrol) for the Ultegra Di2. Even on sale at 5783.45 euros, several options from renowned brands are available to us
Not sure what you're reading, but those are not SAVADECK-BIKE.COM prices. The most expensive SAVA bike is the Falcon 9.0 Di2 with Dura ace at $5999USD.
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Funny that because if they reviewed the bike they'd be reviewing shit, also.
OK Karen. You seem to be a troll based on your other posts.
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I don't get why all the hate for the frame, it's not like they're forcing anyone to buy it. Love it or hate, it even got GCN's attention. I'd say the publicity has worked in Sava's favor.
Sava has more traditional bikes in their line-up and the builds look quite respectable in terms of components and weights.
It appears from the nonsense in the hate there's some other brand bots. Nothing that was said had any factual basis which was what the OP was about. Have you any experience or information about them? All we got from the haters was BS.
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How is it bullshit to call the cockpit that has zero adjustability, terrible ergonomics and is clearly even more of a pain in the ass to service than even a regular fully integrated bar, bad design? Explain to me, in detail please so my simple bot intelligence doesn't make the wrong conclusions, just how this design is not objectively unappealing from a user experience standpoint.
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I'd say the publicity has worked in Sava's favor.
You got that right.
This was originally introduced as a concept bike, but even this production version seems more like a halo product for marketing purpose rather than an actual one for sale.
Just look at all the marketing info about it. No where on the sales page does it address availability of cockpit options. The only way do adjust the stack or reach would be to replace the top portion of the handlebar but nowhere is it mentioned in any listing.
Instead, so much space is wasted on extolling the virtues of the Shimano groupset.
Though there are supposed to be 4 sizes, just about every retailer that lists this only stock 2. (AliExpress, sava-deck, taobao)
The most damning evidence is that there are 0 purchases and reviews on its listing on taobao.com despite it being the largest china online market.
To me all this points to it being something just to draw attention to Sava rather than an actual product since they don't seem to have any interest in selling it.
Where are the influencer reviews?
YouTube should have been flooded with this by now considering how long it has been available on AliExpress and taobao.
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i hope that thing doesn't take off (metaphorically). this should remain nothing but a concept bike imo
integrated handlebars is one thing, STI is another, but a whole proprietary fork+handlebars combo? we need to go back. maybe not to downtube friction shifters but what's next? onepiece frame and seatpost? oh wait. shifters welded to handlebars from the factory, claiming a 40% stiffness improvement? this whole thing is ridiculous, convenience and fit be damned. it's probably not even faster
Dont panic lol. This is an outlier. You can still buy plenty of round seat tube external cable frame sets and conventional components.
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Here's the explanation for your simple mind. The questions were: (a) do you have any knowledge of the company (b) are those components genuine.
yes, ofc they are. None of that has anything to do with the design of this bike specifically
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People getting mad over a bike they would never buy or consider. ;D
If anything it will get people to look at their other framesets. They do make sub 7kg road bikes with Di2 components. Sava seems to be one those OEM companies that sell in bike shops in Asia and are trying expand their marketshare elsewhere. Polygon from Indonesia seems to be doing well with a similar approach. I tend to hear about their MTBs quite a bit.
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Not sure what you're reading, but those are not SAVADECK-BIKE.COM prices. The most expensive SAVA bike is the Falcon 9.0 Di2 with Dura ace at $5999USD.
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Its already available on taobao now
16999rmb with 105
27999rmb with ultegra
36999rmb with da
Edit:
Also on alibaba for usd2804 with 105
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What about frameset only?
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I had a quick check and couldnt find frameset only for sale