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Wing & Carbonda Taking the plunge into the world of Chinese carbon was interesting, to say the least. After much due diligence, I settled on the L FM936 & M FM1001 from Carbonda. I submitted my inquiry and Wing was quick to respond with pricing & general information as to how to conduct the transaction. Communication was superb throughout - including some potential "I might add 3rd, and 4th frame to the order" conversations - and I generally had a reply within 48-72 hours, if not sooner.

Frames arrived well packed, and without any issues, shipping holds, etc. Upon inspecting the frames I found the FM1001 was a L, not the M that was ordered - an easy enough mix-up when pulling orders from the inventory, so I'm not pointing blame/fault at anyone, these things happen.

I contacted Wing, who requested a few photos of the serial number and the small info tag on the inside of the headtube and corrected the mix-up almost immediately. A new M frame is being shipped out, and the L I currently have is repacked, and awaiting shipping tags. Wing said they would send me the tags, to ship to another US-based customer, as soon as they were ready.

As someone who's worked in the cycling industry, in several different roles, for nearly 30 years, I have to say that this is an outstanding example of customer service! As my current role dictates, I have various bikes built up to showcase a range of products, but I try to use bikes that aren't from the "Big-3" or other high visibility brands. Thanks to my experience with Wing & Carbonda, I will definitely be using their frames for my future "showcase" builds!

March 25, 2022, 01:06:35 PM
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Re: Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707 That is a nice colour!
July 04, 2022, 08:23:06 AM
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Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056 Finally got mine built. Going for a shortish ride tomorrow to sort out some adjustments
July 26, 2022, 09:05:13 PM
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Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056 Hi all,

I'm new here. I have been reading this thread over the past few weeks.

I'm in the process of placing an order for a 1056 frameset , pearl copper colour. I plan to build it with a GRX groupset that I am taking off another bike.

I just want to say thanks to all the contributors for a really great information resource.

November 02, 2022, 04:16:32 AM
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Re: Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707
This is the thing, this is my third ride. I haven't ridden the bike much at all due to work, weather, and other responsibilities. I've probably put less than 150kms on this frameset.

TBH the bike looks great, and rides really well, but the build experience has been sub-optimal. The rear shifting is poor as I had to run a fully covered cable to the rear which has made the shifting very inaccurate (sometimes you have to shift down two gears then back up one to shift down, and vice versa).

I also have a CFR1056 and struggle with keeping the headset tight.

In fairness I also have a Yeoleo R12 which I'm building and the experience there has also been unsatisfactory.


My shifting wasn't great at first, and I have a fully covered cable as well. It got a lot better after I replaced the derailleur hanger. Seems like the derailleur hangers are a bit soft and prone to bending.


May 01, 2023, 04:49:51 PM
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Re: Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707
...The rear shifting is poor as I had to run a fully covered cable to the rear which has made the shifting very inaccurate (sometimes you have to shift down two gears then back up one to shift down, and vice versa).
I also have a CFR1056 and struggle with keeping the headset tight.

In fairness I also have a Yeoleo R12 which I'm building and the experience there has also been unsatisfactory.

Your issues look solvable.

The poor rear shifting probably comes from the hose being chewed somewhere(if both cable and hose are new).

The headset not being tight, comes from either a nut not compressing the tube enough, or a star-nut not placed adequately and move when tightening.
Or there is not enough room for the steerer tube to go up when you tighten the top cap.

From the two above I bet your Yoeleo issues can be fixed too  8)

May 02, 2023, 04:23:49 AM
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Re: Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707 Yes you can use a zero-offset post, nothing wrong with that.  I will also add onto 2old2mould's reply that full suspension bikes sag more in the rear when you're going uphill, since the weight balance shifts rearward.  MTB seat tube angles are getting very steep because the terrain is often steep, which geometrically rotates the bike back and puts the saddle more rearward, and the additional rear suspension sag causes the saddle to shift rearward as well.  So it's not that 78deg STA is typically a good pedaling position, it's that 78deg STA ends up being more like 74, 75, 76deg when climbing. 

I'll add my experience, that I also like the steep STA of my FM936.  I also have a CFR707, and run the saddle in the middle of the offset post.  It's STA is still steeper than a traditional road bike, but not near MTB steepness.  But for me, it works very well.  Seatposts are cheap though, nothing wrong with trying out both kinds.  You can also just slam the saddle all the way forward on the offset post, and even though it's not safe to run on rough stuff, it'll give you an idea of what a zero-offset post would feel like.

March 02, 2024, 08:14:22 AM
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Re: Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707
In case anyone is wondering about current prices...

CFR707 w/ Bar - $650
headset - $15
axles - $26
spacers $5
hangar - $8
shipping to US $190
paint $95

+ transaction fees on payment are approx 5%

All-in will be over $1k. Not bad but definitely more than I was expecting for an off-brand china frameset.
For reference, my 696 was $480 and extra hangers were $5 and I'm pretty sure they use the same hanger. Headset was $12, I think it's also the same. Axles were $26 but I decided not to get them after reading they were flexy
Paint obviously varies, mine was almost $200 and shipping was 195 to europe
I don't know if it's inflation or a 707 upcharge but $650 with bars isn't shocking to me. I'd happily order a 707 maybe minus the bars if they are overpriced

March 22, 2024, 02:33:41 AM
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