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Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Does anybody have an opinion on the quality of such wheels? I would think it is an OK choice regarding safety/reliability but not top notch for performance or weight. Will they be inferior to a set of Elite wheels? Elite wheels are not the gold standard of quality wheels, first of all. Neither tantan nor air wolf will sell you garbage. I suggest if you can to make sure you get T800 carbon and not T700, and pillar wing 20 or sapim CX Ray spokes. Think also about the tyres you want to use and the corresponding rim width you should choose. T700 and cheap spokes will save you 100-200 USD but wheels matter greatly on a bike. August 15, 2023, 01:44:59 PM |
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Re: Yishun R086-D Aero Road
The matte black paint, aero wheels, and my saddle to bar drop really help mask the frame design quirks. I'm going to keep the bike as shown, as I'm almost at my limits mentally this season with tinkering with bikes. Some notable things: -The caliper mounts were perfectly faced. First time ever in a sub-$1000 frame. Took me only 10 minutes to align the brakes. -The supplied bolts for both the saddle clamp and seatpost are robust. Saddle clamp uses two bolts: a 5mm and 6mm size bolt. Seatpost clamp foregoes the standard 4mm bolt in favor of a 5mm. -I ordered a 40cm width separate handlebar. My measurements show 38cm at the hoods (center to center) and flares to 40cm in drops. This is perfect, as I originally requested 38cm bars of which were sold out. -Fit and finish around the frame from the bottom bracket to the headset cups were practically flawless. Yes I'm aware that paint can easily cover imperfections, however this isn't any different than ordering a painted frame from any brand on the market. August 16, 2023, 01:36:55 PM |
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Re: Yishunbike R1058-D
178cm, 83cm inseam, rather flexible. I basically went with the geometry of a bike I already have and that I like. [BMC Teammachine SLR02 size 54]. I went with a smaller size than recommended, because recommendations are usually too big.
August 29, 2023, 11:09:09 AM |
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Re: Yishun R086-D Aero Road
Yesterday I brought the R086-D to my weekly fast group ride. The 2 hour training ride consists of a section of rolling hills and several sprint/drag points where we can easily hit 38-40mph on the flats with a proper tailwind. While it's technically not a road race (we re-group after every sprint section and traffic light) all the local race clubs do show up to make it quite competitive. For these type of rides I only trust my T1500 and Allez Sprint for obvious reasons. Last year as an experiment I once brought my VeloBuild VB-168 with the same Elite Drive 65D wheels as a test. Big mistake. I was struggling all evening to put the power down as the 168 was noticeably sluggish/flexy (for me). Not great out of the saddle either. I can confirm with both Bike Radar and Road.cc that the R086-D is a proper aero bike. Sprinting, climbing, handling into the corners at speed. The bike is fast on the flats and I did not detect any noticeable deficiencies compared to the T1500 and Allez Sprint. In fact this frame may just be slightly faster on the flats than the Allez Sprint, but I don't have any scientific data to prove it. I've been showing up to this group ride for 2 years. Everyone knows each other well. But last night I was complimented on my ability for closing down gaps and make several bridges to the lead groups attacking up the road (I never do this LoL). While some of this is from experience and fitness, honestly the R086-D is such a bike to ridden fast with confidence. Last thing note about the frameset specifically - I would invest in some microshims for underneath the headset cover and do a dry run of fitting the entire cockpit (including the expander plug and compression cap) before permanently routing the cables. Initially the headset cover was very slightly rubbing on the headtube. A 0.25mm microshim immediately solved the issue. I can't say if the problem was a anecdotal or a tolerance-related. No one else has reported it but just a heads up to be safe. August 31, 2023, 08:51:57 AM |
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Re: Yishun R086-D Aero Road
My 206DB-RBD50C wheels arrived today. Took 5 calendar days from Xiamen to Chicago via FedEx. First ride with them will be this evening using the same tires and TPU tubes for comparison. Weight without tubeless rim tape: 1471g Because the wheels were provided at a discount for the sake of a video review (my idea not theirs) the wheels neither came with tubeless rim tape installed, nor was rim tape or spare spokes provided. Also keep in mind these are $500 not $1000 wheels, but I'll still ask Yishun about this. Thankfully I had spare rim tape and it literally only takes 5 minute. Considering Yoeleo, Magene, and Elite are offering similarly spec'd wheels for $100 to $400 more, I can live without the included rim tape and spokes. September 06, 2023, 01:19:19 PM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
is size 54 available now for distribution?size 54cm normal weight 1050g, loading time about 40-50 days after payment, supper light version 950g need about 70 days, September 07, 2023, 01:45:42 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Agreed, the frame is way less appealing than the prototype. I would prefer the LCR0X in term of design.the frame LCROX-D have too many bike brands and bike shops use it add their brand, it's a classic aero frame, we need a new frame for long distance, More relaxed and non-aggressive geometry. September 07, 2023, 01:50:13 AM |
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Re: Yishun R086-D Aero Road
hey Pat, have you tried this frame on a climb? how was it? I am really close on buying this frame (maybe tomorrow I place an order and finally decide) There are no actual climbs in Chicago. Only a few punchy rolling hills. I would argue that if you're looking for a climbing-focused frame, an aero frame probably isn't the best choice. The frame is plenty stiff however, which is important when climbing. September 07, 2023, 11:20:23 AM |
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Re: How do yall feel about the value of open mold road bikes vs mainstream brands?
Here is my analysis... Point #1 - Of all the frames I've ridden and tested, only 4 have performed flawlessly and free of any quirks. From the build process to long term on the road: Yoeleo R12, Winspace T1500, and two Specialized Allez Sprints. While I don't believe having a UCI sticker is the absolute marker for quality, it's also not a coincidence these 4 frames have them. Build quality, details and functionality matters at this price point. Point #2 - Neither a UCI sticker nor offering a unique frame design is an indicator of a frame's performance. Yishun R086D and VeloBuild VB-177 are great frames despite more or less being open mold designs. What I've learned with cheap frames is if the specs/design of a frameset looks too good to be true...it probably is. TanTan x38 (Scott Foil clone) and VB-168 (SL7 clone) were sluggish for me personally. Point #3 - Buying experience. Having the only two flagship Specialized shop outside of California 20 minutes from my home, you can tangibly see why they are so popular. The shopping experience is like going to a premium car dealership. Might as well be for a $5500 SL8 frame. Trek's flagship shops are horrible. Never buying from them again. With Specialized you're not just buying a bike. You buying into the local community, you have a home base for local rides/coffee, and you're dealing with managers/sales reps/mechanics who are also cyclists themselves. I cannot overstate how important this is for the 95% of cyclists in the real world who don't spend time on YouTube/forums geeking out over Chinese brands like myself. Point #4 - My online presence is such that I'd rather not be a walking billboard for expensive brands. I'm trying to be aspirational to the fitness but budget minded shopper. Although I really want to buy a Giant Propel or S-Works SL8 next season to see if the hype is real. I cant keep testing cheap frame forever. Obviously I'm probably not the average cyclist. Swapping new bikes/frames constantly is painful. However, I've grown tired of regularly dealing with the quirks and customer service annoyances of the cheaper/open mold frames. No matter how many "Chinese" bikes I've tested, I always go back to my Winspace T1500. Which brings me to Point #5 - The only thing holding me back from buying the Propel/SL8 today is that we starting to see more Chinese competitors to Winspace/Yoeleo in the $1500-$2000 range coming to the marketplace for the Western world. To me this is where the best value to performance ratio can be found. UCI-Approved, limited licensed frame design, fantastic paint details, competitive frame weight, and quality supplied hardware. I'm currently in talks to acquire a frame from one of these new brands 
September 11, 2023, 02:05:07 PM |
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Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
https://youtu.be/Di0D_2SENxs?si=iFIInItlrhTJtqbZ Yikes... September 12, 2023, 11:21:13 AM |
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