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Title: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on August 01, 2014, 03:30:36 AM
Hello guys,  :)
I am new to the forum and I'm a xc race man.
I'm buying the pieces to fit a new frame IP256.
I do not have much money. I recycle to save my Shimano 9-speed transmission.
At the rear, I would like to mount a 11-36 9-speed cassette and 9 speed Shimano transmission.
I know that the front derailleur mounts directly onto the frame. I recommended some derailleur compattibile?
I come from a 26-inch. I used to be a front derailleur road bike with only 70 grams fitted with collar (soldering type). Do you think you could also mount on IP256?
Any suggestions or criticism is welcome ..
Thanks in advance
regards
Jackk

ps: sorry for my english, google translate helps me, I hope it is understandable ..  :-[
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: MTB2223 on August 01, 2014, 04:28:45 AM
Hi Jackk,

The FD that fits on the IP256 is a Shimano  E2 type ( http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cycle/en/us/index/products/mountain/New_Deore_XT/product.-code-FD-M785-E2.-type-.fd_mountain.html )
But why not looking for the IP-057 ? That's also an awesome frame and save some bucks. For this frame you need an other FD like this http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cycle/en/us/index/products/mountain/New_Deore_XT/product.-code-FD-M781.-type-.fd_mountain.html

The IP-057 is a little bit heavier, 160 gram or something.
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on August 01, 2014, 06:09:08 AM
Hi mtb2223,
Thanks for the reply ..
I was thinking there for IP057: the front derailleur pulls the cable from the bottom?
I would solve a lot of problems because I already have this ..

I hope google has translated well ..
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: brmeyer135 on August 01, 2014, 06:18:28 AM
IP-057 is a high mount and pulls from top
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on August 05, 2014, 05:21:35 AM
Hi,
I finally ordered IP256, I hope it's a good deal for my cross country races.  ???
I have a question: Which derailleur e-type-2 buy one of these?
http://cuturl.net/46735
Those on 10speed, also work with 9speed shifters?
I can not spend much so I have to recycle the 9 speed transmission.
Say that I can ride okay?
Thanks for the tips
jackk
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: brmeyer135 on August 05, 2014, 06:46:46 AM
looks like only one on that page - the slx shifter and it is only 31.00
I don't see where you mention if you have 2 rings or 3
Depending on your races, maybe you could go 1 x and forget the front.
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on August 05, 2014, 08:15:47 AM
Hi,
brmeyer135 thanks for the reply.
I use double chainring: front 36-24 et 11-36 rear.
Switch to mono-ring do not see it very well: we have risen extreme races ..
Do you know if the old e-type mount on this frame by removing the plate bracket?
like this:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/hubbahubba123/IMG_3617.jpg
the holes in the frame are the same distance like e-type-2 or e-type?
Thank you
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: brmeyer135 on August 05, 2014, 10:54:35 AM
Looking here:  https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=xtr%20e-type%20front%20derailleur
Your picture looks like the e-type and not the e2-type
You might be surprised about 1x - check a bike gear calculator
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: RS VR6 on August 05, 2014, 05:49:27 PM
He would need a 42T in the rear and a 28T in the front to get his 24/36 low gear he currently has if he goes 1x.
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on August 07, 2014, 11:02:39 AM
Hi,
thanks for answers.
Unfortunately, the single ring XX1 is too expensive for my pocket.
For now I leave the double ring 36-24 XTR FC-M970, so I can recycle my old transmission.
By purchasing an old e-type and removing the anchor to the bottom bracket I thought to solve, if the holes in frame are as e-type2.
Thanks anyway
regards
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: brmeyer135 on August 08, 2014, 06:04:21 AM
I am saying you could keep your current drivetrain and drop a ring.
This site's founder Sitar did it this way.
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on August 08, 2014, 09:32:52 AM
ah ok,
but I'm not sure I can ride a 36 front and 36 rear.
If I put a smaller ring of 36 front, then I would have difficulty in plain ..
I try to look at the solution of Sitar then ..
Thank you
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on September 04, 2014, 01:23:59 PM
Hello guys,
the components to build the 29ers are almost all arrived. Here are some photos with the weights ..


http://s239.photobucket.com/user/antoss/slideshow/29er
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: Vipassana on September 04, 2014, 04:52:47 PM
Looking good.  Those brakes sure are light.  Let us know how you like them.  Very minimalist looking compared to the XT's I have.  I wish the XT's looked more sleek.
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on September 05, 2014, 02:44:55 AM
Hi Vip,
The brakes are Formula, are very light and brake very well. Here in Italy are widely used.
I'll put the link: http://www.formula-italy.com  :o
Today ride inauguration, snap some photos ..
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: brmeyer135 on September 05, 2014, 08:24:00 AM
those are light and those aren't even the full R1s(notice RX on caliper) - full R1s are at 180ish and R1 racing closer to 150
Looking forward to pictures of your build.
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on September 06, 2014, 02:25:20 AM
those are light and those aren't even the full R1s(notice RX on caliper) - full R1s are at 180ish and R1 racing closer to 150
Looking forward to pictures of your build.

They are a mix: rx caliper and lever r1. They work fine, maybe too much! :)
I came from Hygia Usagi, but these are a different planet ..
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on September 06, 2014, 02:37:55 AM
Final weight: 9,5kg  I can still go down

notes:
The headset Iplay, it seems not work well: it moves. It takes a thickness in the upper part, which was not included in the package.

Crank: I custumed my XTR970 in single ring.
To improve the chain line, I removed the shims inner chainring side.
I think it is fine, but you will need later to buy a crank monoring native

Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: 325racer on September 06, 2014, 09:17:11 AM
I had the same issue with the headset.  I had an extra spacer from another headset, that I installed above the wedge washer, below the top cap.  With that it tightened up properly, but leaves a space for dirt to get in under the rubber seal on the top cap.

I will live with this until it dies and replace with better quality then.
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: WorkingHPRs on September 06, 2014, 10:06:50 AM
Any suggestions on a decent quality / well fitting headset? or how to go about figuring out what will fit?

Cheers,

Mike
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on September 06, 2014, 11:49:49 AM
I had the same issue with the headset.  I had an extra spacer from another headset, that I installed above the wedge washer, below the top cap.  With that it tightened up properly, but leaves a space for dirt to get in under the rubber seal on the top cap.

I will live with this until it dies and replace with better quality then.

Hi,
..it was not just my opinion then!
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on September 06, 2014, 11:51:01 AM
Any suggestions on a decent quality / well fitting headset? or how to go about figuring out what will fit?

Cheers,

Mike

Hi,

I can not help you, I look forward to the advice of more experienced..
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: jackk on September 06, 2014, 11:56:11 AM
some final pictures..

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/antoss/29er/th_060920141778.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/antoss/media/29er/060920141778.jpg.html) (http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/antoss/29er/th_060920141777.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/antoss/media/29er/060920141777.jpg.html) (http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/antoss/29er/th_060920141776.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/antoss/media/29er/060920141776.jpg.html)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/antoss/29er/th_060920141775.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/antoss/media/29er/060920141775.jpg.html) (http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/antoss/29er/th_060920141774.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/antoss/media/29er/060920141774.jpg.html) (http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/antoss/29er/th_060920141773.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/antoss/media/29er/060920141773.jpg.html)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/antoss/29er/th_060920141772.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/antoss/media/29er/060920141772.jpg.html) (http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/antoss/29er/th_060920141770.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/antoss/media/29er/060920141770.jpg.html) (http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/antoss/29er/th_060920141766.jpg) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/antoss/media/29er/060920141766.jpg.html)

location:
google images: http://cuturl.net/792dc
google maps: http://cuturl.net/fb6fa
wikipedia: http://cuturl.net/eb77e

regards from Sardinia island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinia) - Italy :)
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: snipe on October 29, 2014, 05:09:03 PM
some final pictures..

Nice looking build.  Seat stays look so thin makes me nervous.   Can you update us with a ride review?
thanks
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: Carbon_Dude on October 30, 2014, 07:32:53 PM
Can't beat the scenery!
Title: Re: 256 build by jackk
Post by: brmeyer135 on November 07, 2014, 11:47:20 AM
Interesting seat choice...don't think I've seen that used....will be interesting to hear your thoughts on it.