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29er / Re: Midwest's 036 Build
« on: September 07, 2016, 12:12:22 PM »
So it's been a number of weeks since I've updated this thread, but I did finish my build about a month ago. I got back from vacation and immediately went to the post office to pick up my carbon wheels I had Peter build up for me. They looked really great and were extremely light. I opted to go with the FHR930C rim without spoke holes to make going tubeless easier. I mounted my brake rotors and valve stems and put the tire on. It was easy to get the bead set with an air compressor, and the trucker co tire sealant seemed to seal them right up. Overall getting both wheels tubeless was probably under an hour. I mounted the wheels and they looked to be true right from the factory. I spent the rest of the day messing with brakes and shifting until I was satisfied. It took about 2 rides to get everything shifting and braking the way I wanted.

Ride impressions: Wow. This bike is quick! Climbing, cornering and descending are way fast. After a few rides locally, I took the bike for the real test up to Copper Harbor Michigan. It's some of the best mountain biking in the midwest and is a silver rated trail system by IMBA. I rode the bike on a huge variety of trails when I was up there. Rocky, flowing, steep and even some smaller jumps. The bike performed flawlessly. Except for one mistake I made.

I forgot to check my air pressure before I started riding and on my first trail I heard a loud pop from the rear tire. Instantly I knew something had broken. I checked the rear wheel and found this.



Pretty frustrating, but I decided I would take it easy and keep riding since the tire was holding air and staying true. I got it down, pumped them up to 30 PSI and kept riding. At first I was really worried that the whole wheel would just explode underneath me, but the more I rode, the more confident I was in the rim. In all I rode the damaged rim for 2 more days and just as hard as a rim in good condition. I figured that If I was going to replace it anyways I might as well get the life out of it I could. That happened about 2 weeks ago and now I have a new rim that should be arriving to my house this weekend. I'll lace the wheel and take it to a local shop for tightening and truing.

In the meantime I purchased the 54T hub upgrade for my DT Swiss 350's. It's probably one of the best upgrades you can have in addition to a dropper seatpost. Having my engagement angle changed to 6.6 degrees makes a huge difference when I'm in technical terrain. It's expensive at $100, but if you ride aggressively it needs to be on your list. Swapping out the ratchet was simple and I didn't even remove my cassette. It's a fair bit louder, but not nearly as loud as some of the other hubs I heard when I was biking in copper harbor.
 
Needless to say, everything I bought from Peter has exceeded my expectations. I'll continue to buy Chinese parts until I find a very compelling reason to stop. This weekend I'll post photos of the rim once I take it apart. I'm curious to see just how far this crack extends.




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29er / Re: little bit worried
« on: August 24, 2016, 11:05:54 AM »
I noticed these too on my 036 frame. Interestingly they weren't always at the bottom where it logically made sense for the drain hole to be. One of my theories is that they could be holes used to inflate the plastic bags inside the frame for molding.

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Fat Bikes / Re: Xiamen Carbon Full Suspension fattie
« on: August 22, 2016, 03:54:51 PM »
Looks really good so far. I'm glad you decided to go with the carbon wheels. Yesterday my dad and I were loading bikes into the car and he picked up one of my wheels and it blew his mind. I'm convinced and very happy with mine. Your build looks really slick. Do you have your cranks yet? Will it be a 1x11? Where will you mount batteries for this build?

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29er / Re: Welcome to Chinertown - Introduce Yourself!
« on: August 20, 2016, 12:52:27 AM »
Hey everyone.  Greetings from Green Bay, WI.

Just joined to get some information on full suspension frames.  My son's friend is looking to build up a full suspension bike and I have a few parts I am going to donate to him.  Specifically a Fox CTD shock which is 184 x 44 (7.25 x 1.75).  Are any of the Chinese full suspension frames designed around a 7.25" shock length?

Eau Claire, WI here  8)

Hope you decide to do a Chiner build. I just finished my 036 yesterday and have really been enjoying it. The 036 frame fits a 6.5 shock, so it wouldn't work with yours. Do some searching for the 098 frame. It's a bit more of an enduro styled frame, but I can't remember if it takes a 7.25 or 7.5. It's sold by multiple vendors, and there was a build on here from awhile ago.. I think if you search IP-098 you'll find it. If you're interested, Peter at xmcarbonspeed.com has them, just not on his website. Just shoot him an email asking about the shock size requirements. He sells it as the CS-098.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: What kind of BB?
« on: August 10, 2016, 03:39:05 AM »
Yep! That should be fine. It's exactly what I did.

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29er / Re: Midwest's 036 Build
« on: August 09, 2016, 09:27:17 PM »
So I was able to test out my 3D printed housings today and overall I'm pretty happy! Without taking any measurements or other prototypes I think they turned out really well. They could hug a little closer to the frame, but maybe I'll print some replacements in a few weeks. The adapter gets zip-tied into the installed cable guides, then the cables are zipped to the adapters sides. 3 zip ties per mount.. Not weight weenie friendly  ;) (If you want the STL or SolidWorks file of the guide PM me)

I also took some time today to figure out what the vinyl finish on my chiner would eventually look like. I used Peters supplied geometry to develop some to scale drawings in Adobe Illustrator. Once I had drawn out a set of shapes I liked I threw them into Photoshop and painted what I thought it could look like. The material basically appears to change colors depending on the angle you view it at. Being on black carbon, it actually sort of mutes the range of colors that it can hit. I know that it isn't for everybody, but I think it looks pretty cool. The material is a film made by 3M called "Dichroic Blaze Multi-Color". I have a couple feet of it laying around so once I get access to a vinyl cutter again I'll do some cutting and get it applied. It might not be till mid September though.

Enjoy the pics.



Dual cable adapter


Dual cable adapter


Nice and clean routing!  :D


What I think my frame could look like with the Dichroic material...  :D




You can see the variety of colors that the material can appear as. I think it looks really good.


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Component Deals & Selection / Re: What kind of BB?
« on: August 08, 2016, 03:26:33 PM »
No problem! Just know you'll be best off buying the GXP installation tool which can be about $20-$25. It makes installation a breeze and is well worth it.

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29er / Re: Midwest's 036 Build
« on: August 08, 2016, 03:25:04 PM »
Unfortunately this weekend my wheels were still stuck in customs... Being a little OCD about my build and anxious to keep working I decided to pull apart my brakes to free some stuck pistons. It actually was pretty easy to do and really was only frustrating when it came to freeing the pistons from the caliper halves. They were pretty dirty, so I lubed them up with some DOT 5.1 fluid and reinstalled and bled. Seems like I'm getting a lot more substantial piston actuation now.

Another thing bothering me is the way that my two cables are running down my downtube. Being a slow day at work, I decided to take a crack at solving that with a little bit of design work. I modeled up a little housing that would get zip tied into the single cable mount and allow me to run two cables side by side. Not sure if my parts will be the right size at all as I really only guessed looking at some pictures I took, but I figured it was worth a shot.


A little of sanding...


Matte black to match the frame


An image from this weekend

I'll try the housings out tomorrow!

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: What kind of BB?
« on: August 08, 2016, 03:13:17 PM »
Most of us would suggest a BSA style BB. This of course drives what cranks you use, but if you look for GXP compatibility you'll find a very wide variety of SRAM cranks and components. SRAM's BSA BB is called the GXP.

https://www.sram.com/truvativ/products/gxp-bottom-bracket

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29er / Re: 29 Full sus from Scott Scale 960: CS-036?
« on: August 05, 2016, 10:54:55 AM »
Your front derailleur is a definite no-go. Luckily they're only like $10-20 on eBay. You need a S3 direct mount bottom pull front derailleur.

If you wanted to move your brakes over make sure to get new olives and barbs and a bleed kit.

For rear shock the measurement is 6.5 x 1.5 (168 x 38mm). You'll also need a set of bushings for both ends of the shock, this dimension varies slightly between frames, but my 8mm x 21.8mm kit worked really well.

Something to keep in mind is that since your fork is RockShox you could buy a RockShox rear shock and control them both with their dual remote system.

Along with extra derailleur cable and housing get some ferrules and frame savers to help with running cables and brake lines.

If you have it in your budget you could also pick up a set of carbon wheels from Peter.

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29er / Re: Midwest's 036 Build
« on: August 04, 2016, 08:28:06 PM »
For those of you with front derailleurs or any experience with direct mounts: The 036 mounting bolts for the front derailleur come with 3 washers. One bolt has two on it and the other only has one. Where do these belong? Under the bolt head? Below the actual front derailleur mount? Not at all? I'll mess with it to see what gets me the best chain line, but some input would be nice.

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Has anyone else experienced customs delays in the US? My frame cleared in 2-3 days, but today marks a week since my wheels have been there. Peter tells me most arrive in 8-9 days, 15 at the most. I know I'm still in that window, I'm just anxious to ride! Frame is built up and this is all that is left...


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After The Ride / Re: Chinertown Strava Group?
« on: August 04, 2016, 08:13:40 AM »
I just joined yesterday as well. Not riding much until I'm done with my 036 build. I haven't used Strava before, but it looks like some of you guys put on some serious miles!!

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29er / Re: Midwest's 036 Build
« on: August 03, 2016, 08:47:05 AM »
Thanks for the input SportingGoods. Out of curiosity what sort of setting do you leave your fork on for riding? My fox fork has the CTD technology and I guess I wonder if the trail setting is really adaptive enough to not switch between climb and descend. I know CarbonDude really liked his TwinLoc setup, but maybe I should give my 036 a couple rides before investing another $80 into a remote system.

Did your Jagwire stick-on's work well with your carbon frame? Mine seemed to hold for a minute and then fall off.

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Fat Bikes / Re: Xiamen Carbon Full Suspension fattie
« on: August 02, 2016, 08:08:53 AM »
Awesome choice with the Bluto. I haven't heard anything bad yet. You might want to check out this thread http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,756.30.html. The frame didn't have enough clearance for the fork, so he had to get this crown race / spacer combo machined. It sounds like it was affordable and works well! Honestly, reading through all these forums and talking with people around the trails I'd say go carbon on the wheel set if your budget permits. A lot of people make good claims that carbon is actually stronger and better. I'm waiting on my set to arrive from Peter this week, but I've heard nothing but good things.

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