I'm sure you thought about moving the saddle to the front with the 80mm?

i have an ergon saddle with approximately 3cm space, that would be enough to compensate, maybe not so good for her knees
in combination with moving the cleats on the shoes i'm sure you get 10mm out

Sounds like there are a few of us in the same boat. I'm 170cm with 80cm inseam and am debating between the 49 and the 52 VB-R-168. Both of which I would get with a 400/90 bar stem combo.

I prefer the reach of the 49 but the stack is super low and I don't think it would be very comfortable, so will most likely opt for the 52 if I choose the 168 and hope it doesn't feel too stretched out. If only they did an 80mm stem option then the 52 would be perfect!

I much prefer the look of the 168, but the reach and stack numbers of the VB-R-099 in a 49 size would actually fit me better than either the 49 or 52cm 168. The rational choice would be the VB-R-099 in a 49, just a shame that the 168 is a nicer looking bike in my opinion.

Is anyone able to confirm the following figures which will help determine overall reach for both the VB-R-099 and VB-R-168.


• What is the seat-post offset on both frames (from the pics the 099 looks to have more of an offset than the 168)
• Both bars look to have a forward sweep (similar to the Vision Metron 5D bars), are the sweeps the same for both bars or are they different to each other i.e. is the reach longer on the 099 bars vs the 168?
• I'm also curious to know if the bar sweep is more of an illusion if that makes sense, in that the reach is the same as a normal 'straight' bar, and that the only thing that is different is the space around where the hoods sit

Hi guys,

   Question about this frame,  do the bottom of the frame,  under the bottom bracket,
does it have a smal hole to let the water sip in case some water get into the fram when riding in rain or when washing the bike ?