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Re: Speeder SC-R48
Quote from: StiffWeenies on February 22, 2022, 04:35:31 PM
Apparently it is the SLC 2.0
Quote from: StiffWeenies on February 23, 2022, 11:03:24 AM
The quotes are kind of all over the place though. One guy said 675 USD for a SC-R48V while another guy is asking 550 USD for his barely used second hand SC-R48D.

Regardless, I'm just drooling at the prospect of a SC-R48V build with an unbranded black direct mount set of those fake eeBrakes.

I second this... but not because I happen to be the guy selling an SC-R48V for $550.

My guess is that Speeder is the OEM for Winspace for this particular frame and so it makes sense that it's $675 from Speeder and $1480 from Winspace after painting and marketing.  This guess is based on technical drawings and photos that I got from Speeder and Winspace when I was looking into this frame last year. 

A different poster in this thread mentioned that the geometries and dimensions are slightly different but they're actually the same:
https://www.speedercycling.com/js/htmledit/kindeditor-en/attached/20190902/20190902191446_95676.jpg
https://winspace.cc/pub/media/wysiwyg/SLC_Geometry_1.jpg

In any case, if anyone's looking for one, the unpainted SC-R48V frameset I'm selling is a size 47 with a 513/378 stack/reach.  And to go with it I'm also selling a pair of Bontrager direct mount brakes -- not exactly eeBrakes but similar.
February 24, 2022, 05:14:44 PM 		1
Re: Fake eeBrakes G4 I decided to give the center mount version of these G4 counterfeits a try.  I was pleasantly surprised with their looks but these are not the bees knees. 

Compared to R8000 brakes (tested on two bikes with similar setups, differing only by their brake calipers) the springs are firmer and require more grip strength but I imagine this would benefit frames with serpentine cable routing.  With Shimano pads, the braking is not quite as good but it's close.  Also unlike R8000, there is a little slop in the right side pivot, the side with the cable pinch bolt.  Somehow, this results in no squeal even with zero toe, but maybe this is more a result of the Shimano pads. 

I happen to have them set up with spacers for narrow, 22mm rims but I can confirm that they will accommodate rims up to 30mm by rearranging or removing the four 2mm spacers these come with. 

These will not fit on frames with dropped seat stays because of the amount of space required by the linkage and cable routing.  By my measurement, there needs to be at least 53mm of clearance between the brake mount and the seat tube.

There is one really weird thing about these brakes and that's the centering mechanism.  It's tool free, which is quite nice, but because of its design, only one arm spreads when opening the quick release.  This could be a problem with tires that balloon much wider than the rims.  See the second photo.

These weigh 101g for the front and 96g for the rear, without pads (that didn't arrive -- not the first time missing items from an Ali seller).  I paid $178.11 with tax and shipping to the US from a seller called F1Z BIKE SHOP, and they took 20 days to arrive.

If the real ee brakes are identical except for the badge and shoe fixing bolts, I have to assume that they have all the same characteristics.  Thus, other than the looks and weight savings, they're not better than R8000.
March 04, 2022, 01:48:49 PM 		1