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Title: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: AzureEssence on October 13, 2023, 01:30:19 PM
This is a very general and open-ended question, but what do you think are the absolute best buys from AliExpress in terms of quality and value? And the worst buys? Can be specific to brands or products, or just general categories.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Dribob on October 13, 2023, 02:45:35 PM
I like these little hand pumps that have the hose that screws onto the valve. have them on all my bikes. Seen them with different branding but I have these ones:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mshOo0a
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: kubackje on October 13, 2023, 03:06:55 PM
I like these little hand pumps that have the hose that screws onto the valve. have them on all my bikes. Seen them with different branding but I have these ones:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mshOo0a

That's literally the worst pump I've ever used. This screwing hose thing is unusable for me. I prefer a classic mini pump.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Sakizashi on October 13, 2023, 03:43:49 PM
These are my two best:

Kalloy Uno Ultralight 7050AL Stems: $17.50 https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255799842115476.html
These are very light and generally a quality component. Barely heavier than the Darimo AL stems and less than 1/10th the price.

Ridenow TPU Tubes: $6-$8 each for the 24g versions: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805247862356.html
Light and good quality TPU tube. They make a lighter version, but I have yet to try them.

Worst:
Any pulley wheels or ospw stuff. Total junk bearings. Most use the 689 size. If you want to play with fancy bearings in your RD, look for people reselling Kogel ones that they picked up for free during their sales.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: kbernstein on October 14, 2023, 07:15:37 AM
+1 on both UNO stems and ridenow tubes. Both excellent products that could be sold as premium. Must have bargains for sure.
YBN chains and Deemount tubeless valves are also purchases I am very happy with.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: carbonazza on October 14, 2023, 08:23:20 AM
Here's my best of :
Elita one seatpost and saddles
Firespider handlebars
Uno stems too
Balugoe $24 86g bare carbon saddles(but tend to crack after a while)
xpresso pedals Ti, 160g F1Z bike shop
handlebar bags, for long rides(Loving Outdoor Store)
Darevie shorts
SK Cycle carbon seatpost clamp
Alpha cycling pink break pads
Nuga store tubeless syringe
Onirii M2 brakes
Balashov Electric Cooking Machine 1.7L, to wax chains
Magene Radar L508



I liked them but not anymore:
Gaciron lights, great but their straps are crap, I've lost them all
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on October 14, 2023, 09:41:22 AM
Of all the RideNow TPU tubes, I consider these ones the best so far. Not the lightest at 24g, but more durable than the plastic valve stem versions.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805826503201.html? (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805826503201.html?)


Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Greenred on October 14, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
How do the 24g ridenows hold air compared to the 36g version? Very happy with latter but a bit worried about constant pumping up tires in case of the 24g ones
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: PLA on October 14, 2023, 01:54:23 PM
I like rhinowalk saddlebags, risk titanium bolts, towild lights.

I dislike anything from og-evkin.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: AzureEssence on October 14, 2023, 05:56:35 PM
These are my two best:

Kalloy Uno Ultralight 7050AL Stems: $17.50 https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255799842115476.html
These are very light and generally a quality component. Barely heavier than the Darimo AL stems and less than 1/10th the price.

Ridenow TPU Tubes: $6-$8 each for the 24g versions: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805247862356.html
Light and good quality TPU tube. They make a lighter version, but I have yet to try them.

Worst:
Any pulley wheels or ospw stuff. Total junk bearings. Most use the 689 size. If you want to play with fancy bearings in your RD, look for people reselling Kogel ones that they picked up for free during their sales.

I have a pair of RideNow tubes on the way.

Interesting take on the pulley wheels; I'm using a pair of cheap alloy ones with ceramic bearings on both my mountain bikes (one SRAM GX and one Microshift Advent X derailleur). No problems with either of them and they look great. Have been using them for a few months now. I'd rate them as decent value but mostly an aesthetic upgrade.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: AzureEssence on October 14, 2023, 05:57:18 PM
+1 on both UNO stems and ridenow tubes. Both excellent products that could be sold as premium. Must have bargains for sure.
YBN chains and Deemount tubeless valves are also purchases I am very happy with.

I definitely want to try YBN chains. I have a bunch of Deemount valve cores coming.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: AzureEssence on October 14, 2023, 05:59:27 PM
Here's my best of :
Elita one seatpost and saddles
Firespider handlebars
Uno stems too
Balugoe $24 86g bare carbon saddles(but tend to crack after a while)
xpresso pedals Ti, 160g F1Z bike shop
handlebar bags, for long rides(Loving Outdoor Store)
Darevie shorts
SK Cycle carbon seatpost clamp
Alpha cycling pink break pads
Nuga store tubeless syringe
Onirii M2 brakes
Balashov Electric Cooking Machine 1.7L, to wax chains
Magene Radar L508



I liked them but not anymore:
Gaciron lights, great but their straps are crap, I've lost them all

Got an ELITAONE seatpost coming, can't wait to try it on my bikepacking rig.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: AzureEssence on October 14, 2023, 06:00:23 PM
Of all the RideNow TPU tubes, I consider these ones the best so far. Not the lightest at 24g, but more durable than the plastic valve stem versions.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805826503201.html? (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805826503201.html?)

Do they make these in 26 or 29" for MTB?
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: AzureEssence on October 14, 2023, 06:03:00 PM
I like rhinowalk saddlebags, risk titanium bolts, towild lights.

I dislike anything from og-evkin.

Just ordered a Rhinowalk stem bag mostly for a snack sack on my bikepacking rig. Pretty much a full set of oil slick Risk Ti bolts coming as well. (if you haven't noticed I'm new here and going wild with these parts deals...)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Sakizashi on October 14, 2023, 08:09:02 PM
I like rhinowalk saddlebags, risk titanium bolts, towild lights.

I dislike anything from og-evkin.

Any thoughts on RISK vs. Wanyifa bolts? I have had the latter in my cart for while.

Interesting take on the pulley wheels; I'm using a pair of cheap alloy ones with ceramic bearings on both my mountain bikes (one SRAM GX and one Microshift Advent X derailleur). No problems with either of them and they look great. Have been using them for a few months now. I'd rate them as decent value but mostly an aesthetic upgrade.

I am pretty hard on my bikes. Ridden in the rain and mud then hosed down with one of those Muc Off pressure washers, ive trashed a few sets of stock sram jockey wheels as well. I only have sram groups at this point so the ones with 689 bearings use reducers. Between those reducers, the shields, and the questionable quality of the bearings there is a lot of play. They also died really quickly.

Kogel is pretty average IMO regarding bearings but their design work is good and the 688 bearing size has a lot of great bearings available for it. Eventually the plan is to swap these out for Enduro XD-15 bearings. Curious to see if they really are a tough as their reputation.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: PLA on October 14, 2023, 08:31:41 PM
Any thoughts on RISK vs. Wanyifa bolts? I have had the latter in my cart for while.

My risk one were a consistent vibrant rainbow colour. My wanyifa were less consistent, less vivid and one is basically green (out of 5).
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Wet Noodle on October 14, 2023, 08:37:51 PM
Do they make these in 26 or 29" for MTB?
Yes to both. The 29er tube is about 60 g. Doesn't hold air quite as well as butyl, other than that no issues so far.

PS: Errr, not sure if they put the alloy valve tubes on the bigger ones as well. I've only seen the "older" type as mtb versions yet.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Maden on October 15, 2023, 03:42:08 PM
I want to throw out that TPU tubes have one major downside - they are NOT patchable long-term. Despite meticulous cleaning and application, every glueless TPU patch has failed on me after a few days or weeks at best.
Ridenow and Cyclami TPU tubes are still good value, but if you puncture, treat patches a temporary fix to get home and be prepared to throw the tubes out eventually.
I'm cheap and don't like being wasteful, so I switched back to butyl tubes for training rides which I can patch over and over again. I still use TPU tubes for racing and as a spare.

Other Aliexpress items I can definitely recommend:
- $18 2x Carbon bottle cages (Bontrager XXX knockoffs)
- $24 Elita One carbon saddle (the Specialized Power knockoff one)
- $425 Elitewheels carbon rim brake wheels with Powerway R13 hubs and Pillar Wing 20 spokes, 47mm deep and 27mm wide, 1500g. Used for ~3800 miles and no issues except having to retrue each wheel once. No issues braking even on 3000ft+ descents.
- $20 Magene H303 heart rate monitor with chest strap
- $8 2x CYCPLUS Cadence/Speed dual sensors. Yes I got two of them for $8.
- $20-30 Spexcel Jerseys and Bibs

Steer clear from these:
- Kactus Titanium QR skewers. I don't know what Trace Velo was thinking, these are awful. Lots of friction, loose rattling fit on the threads for the nut, extremely sharp edges on the lever that make it impossible to close the lever with any force. Just completely unusable.
- Cheap unbranded stems. The one I got had paint overspray in the clamping areas and screw holes which was a pain to get rid of. The screw holes faces on the faceplate weren't flat and could cause a stress raiser if I torqued the bolts up, so I had to use a faceplate from a different stem I had. Not worth cutting every dollar for an important part of your bike - stick to Kalloy/UNO alloy stems with lots of reviews or western brands.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Wet Noodle on October 15, 2023, 05:18:46 PM
I want to throw out that TPU tubes have one major downside - they are NOT patchable long-term. Despite meticulous cleaning and application, every glueless TPU patch has failed on me after a few days or weeks at best.
No, wait, you're drawing the wrong conclusions here. TPU tubes ARE permanently patchable no problem; you can even cut one to a smaller size and glue the ends back together.

If anything, it may be that you cannot permanently patch them with these instant patches (tbf though, not too long ago, these weren't considered anything more than a temp fix for butyl either ... uh, maybe I'm just really behind the times).
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Maden on October 15, 2023, 05:52:33 PM
No, wait, you're drawing the wrong conclusions here. TPU tubes ARE permanently patchable no problem; you can even cut one to a smaller size and glue the ends back together.

If anything, it may be that you cannot permanently patch them with these instant patches (tbf though, not too long ago, these weren't considered anything more than a temp fix for butyl either ... uh, maybe I'm just really behind the times).


You might be right, I've only used the instant patches from Cyclami. Are there patch kits where you bond a permanent patch in the same way as vulcanizing rubber patches for butyl?

I've heard the rubber cement style patches had the same problem of not lasting very long, and Ridenow don't offer them anymore. Perhaps there's an option that I'm missing (I think I saw a suggestion somewhere online to use electrical tape which seems like a bodge...)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Eddy_Twerckx on October 15, 2023, 07:29:47 PM
Warning, fairly long post incoming. I've spent a lot of money on AliExpress over the years. I thought of doing a video like TraceVelo with my top 5 best and worst but I didn't want to just copy him. Anyways, here's a semi-short list of various items over the years. I broke it down into: Awesome, Not So Good, and Meh (kind of in the middle). In no particular order.

Awesome:
- Carbon bottle cages (Carbon Works copy): 7-8g each, cost was around $20 so not super cheap but better than $80 or whatever the real ones cost, and they've been solid. Have to make sure you get the updated version with a perpendicular bottom lip. I have 4 total and love these (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805102025523.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.c81b38daE33I3q&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa)
- Elita One seatposts: I have three on three different bikes and they've all been rock solid and offer a good weight savings
- Black Inc copies (handlebars and full cockpit): really like these, plenty stiff and decent weight. Actually can't find the handlebars any longer which is a shame because I wanted to pick up another pair. The full cockpit is my favorite bar out there
- UNO (Kalloy UNO) stems: probably the best price to weight stem available on the market. Period. Amazing stems, I have like 4 of them in different sizes on various bikes.
- Magene PES P505 power meter and crankset: $300 for a power meter and crankset is crazy good. And they're just as accurate as western brands. Straight swap for Shimano cranks and chainrings, took 15 minutes to make the swap without any issue. Only small problem is inherent in many spider power meters is they don't do well with oval chainrings (read high). But really hard to beat for a budget power meter
- Spexcel long thermal tights: only one ride so far but they're really nice
- Stone oval 1x chainring: nice and solid, looks good and feels well built
- DIY Di2 satellite shifters: probably one of my favorite purchases of all time. They're way cheaper than real shifters, low profile so easily hidden, and you get two buttons for one wire. They've been amazing. Hard to ride without them on my other bikes (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805615867809.html?spm=a2g0n.order_detail.order_detail_item.3.274cf19c5jJ5OE&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa)
- random aero socks: cost like $4, decent quality, no aero data but they look and feel just like my much more expensive ones
- Sigeyi direct mount derailleur hanger: more expensive but high quality and low weight, lots of colors
- Mixed brand direct mount derailleur hanger: cheaper but only comes in gray
- WestBiking 3D printed saddle: almost put it in the meh category, but it's a decent saddle, just didn't work out becuase the shape of it required a zero setback seatpost to slam it forward enough. But they did get the firmness in the right spots
- Ti bolts: I've bought so many from various companies. All have been good.

Not So Good:
- Tarmac stem computer mount: does its job, little heavy, weird spacing of screw holes makes swapping the actual mount piece impossible
- Alpinist Cockpit copy: good weight at 250g for bar/stem, but insanely flexy and the computer mount rivnut broke on the second ride and you can't use normal round bar mounts
- ZTTO bar tape (Supacaz copy): terrible quality. I bought some pink tape and the whole top layer was gone by the end of my first ride and my gloves were pink. Like it seriously lasted a single ride.
- Spexcel arm warmers: ripped when pulling them on the very first time
- Balugoe 3D printed saddle (Power Mirror copy): really bad quality. The rails were angled in such a way that the nose was pointing upwards at a very steep angle. Could barely get a level saddle position. The firmness of the 3D material was wrong, too. The rear was super soft (like a sponge) that you sunk in and could feel the carbon base, but the front was rock hard and super uncomfortable.
- Darevie jersey: low quality, weird fit (loose in torso but super tight in armpits), corny phrases on sleeves
- TanTan X19 frameset: terrible quality, multiple issues with frame and supplied (and missing) parts. Even worse customer service, threatened to doxx me (my name, home address and phone number) when I put in a claim

Meh:
- OG-EVKIN bar tape (Lizard Skinz copy) - not bad, nothing special but it's decent. Slightly more slippy when wet than real Lizard Skinz
- Ride Now TPU tubes: I went back and forth on whether these should be on the awesome list or not. They're super light and make a great saddle bag backup tube. They're pretty cheap and you can get a bunch in bulk for a great price. But mine have been hit or miss with quality. I bought a 4 pack recently and 2 had holes right out the box. And you can't really test them out prior to use if you want to pack them down small for your bag. So far, I've bought 10 and 3 have holes without ever being ridden.
- Spexcel jerseys: sizing is odd, L was too big and M fit like a toddler's jersey. Just too big of a gap between sizes. Decent quality otherwise just weird sizing for me


Making this list just informed me on how much I've spent to "save money."

Edit: Fixed the link for the Di2 satellite shifters.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Ludo on October 15, 2023, 07:53:15 PM
awesome link but both links are for the bottle cage ;)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: PLA on October 15, 2023, 08:28:33 PM
They're the same bottle cages as trace velo tested right? Think they feel apart pretty quick.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Froglover825 on October 15, 2023, 10:57:10 PM
I like these little hand pumps that have the hose that screws onto the valve. have them on all my bikes. Seen them with different branding but I have these ones:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mshOo0a
Man, I have one of these and it is so fking bad, the hose leaks air, I had to chuck it out.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Wet Noodle on October 16, 2023, 03:06:31 PM
Are there patch kits where you bond a permanent patch in the same way as vulcanizing rubber patches for butyl?

There are and the process is pretty much the same, just slightly different ingredients. You glue patches of the very same tpu material onto the tube with a solvent-based plastic adhesive like those PVC/PU glues for camping and outdoor stuff. Rema Camplast seems to be what comes with most tpu tire patch kits here. That said, I can't speak to the Ridenow patch kit. I have one ... somewhere, but don't know what kind of glue it contains and have yet to try the kit out.

Now, there are caveats, several in fact. From what different people tell, it may very well be that not all tpu tubes are created equal (as in: playing equally nice with the glue). Then, the pu glue will most likely require more time to dry/set/evaporate (whatever it is it does before there is a substantial bond). And with how flimsy the material is and how it tends to curl on contact with the glue, getting it to stick without any wrinkles and to stay there may require some persuasion. So, yea, the whole process is a bit more involved.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Eddy_Twerckx on October 16, 2023, 05:14:28 PM
awesome link but both links are for the bottle cage ;)

Of course I did. Should be fixed now.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Eddy_Twerckx on October 16, 2023, 05:19:56 PM
They're the same bottle cages as trace velo tested right? Think they feel apart pretty quick.

No. I put the link for the good ones. There are two very similar versions. One is crap. The one I linked is the stronger version. It’s the orientation of the little lip on the bottom. It’s hard to explain over text. The flat edge is rotated 90 degrees to change how the stress is applied.

Good:
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Acacc0318bedb4d42a8d9ff6f6dcce01f9.jpg)

Bad:
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S635f78850df244f0b8d080dd669c02dfL.jpg_640x640Q90.jpg_.webp)

It’s kind of hard to see. But the bad one is flat against the surface. The good one is perpendicular to the surface. Hope that makes sense.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Ludo on October 16, 2023, 06:09:23 PM
Pictures perfect for clarification, thanks
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Tijoe on October 17, 2023, 12:39:10 PM
I used a pair of the ultralight Carbon Bottle Cages listed/describe above.   My problem with them is that I tried them on my gravel bike and the bottles kept flying out of the cage. Almost every time I hit a large bump.  (large size water bottles - all I use.)   I put them on my road bike.  One broke after being on the bike about a year.   This was a couple years ago, so perhaps I purchased the older version.

These carbon cages are what I have migrated to.  I have 4 pairs. My gravel bike, and on 3 hardtails.  I have only had one bottle fly out of these cages to date.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805615644137.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.106.10931802ZCdDIj&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa.

 My first pair is over 2 years old.  Other sets are around 1 year old.

 
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: sbellote on October 17, 2023, 01:44:58 PM
I'm in need of new bottle cages so this interests me much...
do these carbon ones, recommended above, scratch the bottles? My only experience with carbon cages was one of those Bontrager XXX knock-offs, and while it held the bottle well it just left it all scratched, maybe because it was too tight, but I also believe it was a case of rough edges on the carbon.
I moved to Elite Cannibal bottle cages, the nylon one which is already pretty good at <30g each, but the price on these ones right now is just insane, at least here in Brazil.

Another one I was interested is this Xoss N2 one in nylon (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004280875987.html), seems pretty good price/weight relation
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on October 17, 2023, 02:21:35 PM
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832844876284.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832844876284.html)

I currently use these plastic bottle cages on my road bikes. I've given up trying to chase grams and prefer preserving my water bottles. There's minimum scratching compared to carbon-on-plastic. Also they're quite secure.

For gravel I use magnetic bottles. I use these because even with plastic cages, the fine dirt/grit in my area will scratch the bottles regardless. The bottles themselves are really basic. Though I've only had one drop, because I didn't secure it properly. You have to make sure you hear the magnetic "click" sound when mounting back in position. They're non-insulated, so if it's hot in your area I recommend you freeze your bottles the night before.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805780401542.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805780401542.html)

Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: kubackje on October 17, 2023, 03:23:20 PM
I'm in need of new bottle cages so this interests me much...
do these carbon ones, recommended above, scratch the bottles? My only experience with carbon cages was one of those Bontrager XXX knock-offs, and while it held the bottle well it just left it all scratched, maybe because it was too tight, but I also believe it was a case of rough edges on the carbon.
I moved to Elite Cannibal bottle cages, the nylon one which is already pretty good at <30g each, but the price on these ones right now is just insane, at least here in Brazil.

Another one I was interested is this Xoss N2 one in nylon (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004280875987.html), seems pretty good price/weight relation

Those look the same like the one I've got from decathlon on my road bike. They are not bad. For gravel I've considered elite cannibals but went for RACEONE ZIKO and they are 10/10.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: paldo on October 17, 2023, 05:28:18 PM
Senicx crankset is great also, especially with the DUB spindle..
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Tijoe on October 17, 2023, 05:44:43 PM
Do these carbon ones, recommended above, scratch the bottles?

I haven't noticed scratches due to removing and replacing the bottle in the cage.   But, my water bottles take a beating on my gravel and mtn bikes.
When the contents of the bottle are cold, and I ride the trails, dust sticks to the bottles.  The dust works like sandpaper and leaves black marks on the bottles. I don't care, because water bottles are consumable items.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Eddy_Twerckx on October 17, 2023, 08:01:19 PM
I don't care, because water bottles are consumable items.

Yea, I can't say I've ever cared if my bottles get scratched. They give them out like candy at a lot of places I shop so I have a box full of them. I have some larger 1L bottles I bought a few years back that have some wear, but it doesn't affect the use of the bottle. I see them like cleats. They're going to take a beating and I expect to replace them at some point.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: nickobec on October 17, 2023, 11:55:57 PM
Second what others have recommended
Uno alloy stems
RideNow TPU tubes (36g in use, 24g waiting to try)
YBN chains (all my bikes run waxed YBN chains, including run about ratbike)
Rhinowalk bags (gym, handlebar, top tube and seat roll in use, quality is excellent)
XXX copy bottle cages (no worse at scratching bottles than other brands and more reliable than other brands, ie don’t break or eject bottles)

To add
Uno alloy handlebars, both road and gravel and my flared gravel bar has seen abuse.
MZYRH flat pedals
Wellgo red cleats (exactly the same as Favero and Powertap cleats)
Zeray ZP-110 look keo compatible pedals
AOlikes headband, sits under your helmet and silicone gutter stops sweat getting in your eyes.
TPU folding flask - make your own gels 250ml worth and stick it in your back pocket
Generic HR bands for Garmin HR, a consumable product but lasts as long as gamins, cheaper and comes in a range of colours.
Generic alloy computer mount (Garmin or Wahoo) with GoPro mount underneath that mounts to your handlebar with hinge.
Deemount tubeless sealants injectors
Deemount side loading bottle cages
Cheji cycling kit (just need to be aware pricing fluctuates madly)

To avoid
Generic alloy computer mount that mounts to your stem with two bolts, cracked too many to recommend
Plastic computer mount with GoPro mount underneath that mounts to your handlebar, again cracked too many.
Replica/copies/cheap cycling kit, especially bibs with the multicoloured 5D pads.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: PLA on October 18, 2023, 06:40:52 AM
Second what others have recommended
Uno alloy stems
RideNow TPU tubes (36g in use, 24g waiting to try)
YBN chains (all my bikes run waxed YBN chains, including run about ratbike)
Rhinowalk bags (gym, handlebar, top tube and seat roll in use, quality is excellent)
XXX copy bottle cages (no worse at scratching bottles than other brands and more reliable than other brands, ie don’t break or eject bottles)

To add
Uno alloy handlebars, both road and gravel and my flared gravel bar has seen abuse.
MZYRH flat pedals
Wellgo red cleats (exactly the same as Favero and Powertap cleats)
Zeray ZP-110 look keo compatible pedals
AOlikes headband, sits under your helmet and silicone gutter stops sweat getting in your eyes.
TPU folding flask - make your own gels 250ml worth and stick it in your back pocket
Generic HR bands for Garmin HR, a consumable product but lasts as long as gamins, cheaper and comes in a range of colours.
Generic alloy computer mount (Garmin or Wahoo) with GoPro mount underneath that mounts to your handlebar with hinge.
Deemount tubeless sealants injectors
Deemount side loading bottle cages
Cheji cycling kit (just need to be aware pricing fluctuates madly)

To avoid
Generic alloy computer mount that mounts to your stem with two bolts, cracked too many to recommend
Plastic computer mount with GoPro mount underneath that mounts to your handlebar, again cracked too many.
Replica/copies/cheap cycling kit, especially bibs with the multicoloured 5D pads.

daym solid list!!
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Eddy_Twerckx on October 18, 2023, 07:32:08 AM
What’s the best mini pump out there? Something small and can handle road tires.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: nicklej on October 18, 2023, 07:45:26 AM
My list of recommended:

E
Not recommended:
BHighball Clone - Seattube split after about 400 miles of road riding. No after care and, although it was not a huge expense, it was still a wasted one.

Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Wet Noodle on October 18, 2023, 11:49:19 AM
My list of recommended:
SQLab inner bar-end clones, same weight, half price, seem solid.

Can you post a picture? For me, ali only shows Spirgrips clones, but no SQLab ones.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on October 18, 2023, 12:26:46 PM
I'm a big fan of Fovno jockey wheels. I'm using these on my GRX 812 RD. They're heavy duty and spin smoothly even after riding in mud and dirt. They're easy to clean and service. My stock GRX jockey wheels just grind. I'm suspecting LTwoo and Sensah source these jockey wheels as well for their rear derailleurs.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802749293027.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802749293027.html)

Also I take back what I said about the RideNow TPU tubes with alloy stem. The base of the stem is still plastic. The other day I accidentally cracked the plastic section when I was topping off air in my tire. I have a nice set tubeless ready road tires ready to go once I wear out my clinchers!
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: 00Garza on October 18, 2023, 02:28:30 PM
I used a pair of the ultralight Carbon Bottle Cages listed/describe above.   My problem with them is that I tried them on my gravel bike and the bottles kept flying out of the cage. Almost every time I hit a large bump.  (large size water bottles - all I use.)

I run "traditional" carbon cages and I lost a full water bottle on a bump at speed. I only realized it was gone when I reached down for a drink. I think you'd need a metal cage and bend it to a really tight fit in order to make it fool proof.

I'm in need of new bottle cages so this interests me much...
do these carbon ones, recommended above, scratch the bottles? My only experience with carbon cages was one of those Bontrager XXX knock-offs, and while it held the bottle well it just left it all scratched, maybe because it was too tight, but I also believe it was a case of rough edges on the carbon.

Every carbon bottle cage I've ever used has scratched my bottles unfortunately. Gloss finished cages took longer, but eventually the bottles get roughed up.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: nicklej on October 18, 2023, 04:11:21 PM
Can you post a picture? For me, ali only shows Spirgrips clones, but no SQLab ones.

Sure. I can't find them now but looking back at my.order history they were these: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKVsZdq shop no longer has items so guess it was dodgy. Mine have been great!
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: PLA on October 18, 2023, 05:47:26 PM
I run "traditional" carbon cages and I lost a full water bottle on a bump at speed. I only realized it was gone when I reached down for a drink. I think you'd need a metal cage and bend it to a really tight fit in order to make it fool proof.

Every carbon bottle cage I've ever used has scratched my bottles unfortunately. Gloss finished cages took longer, but eventually the bottles get roughed up.

I think the elite bottle and cage interface is really tight. Can't imagine a bottle ever jumping out.

But the fidlock system is foolproof pretty much. But can prob get 100 aliexpress bottle for the same cost.

My elite bottles takes 1 look at an elite cage and get a billion scratches.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: TidyDinosaur on October 19, 2023, 02:23:10 AM
What’s the best mini pump out there? Something small and can handle road tires.

Just get the BBB Samurai BMP-50 Mini Pump... It's awesome. It probably won't fit in your saddle bag, but I have mounted mine on the side of the bottle cage and barely notice it...
I ditched my Lezyne Pocket Drive HV pump for this one. The HV version was a mistake because you can't get tubeless road tires to seat. Learned this the hard way when I got a flat. Luckily someone in the group had a BBB pump that worked great. I ordered one the same day.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: kubackje on October 19, 2023, 04:28:45 AM
This beto mini pump is my best choice. Fits in a saddle bag.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: AzureEssence on October 19, 2023, 09:35:03 AM
Thank you for all the input. As I've mentioned I have a ridiculously long list of stuff I have on order that just keeps on getting longer. Once it all comes and I have a chance to look it over and use it, I will post a full list of everything I ordered and a one line review.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: PLA on October 19, 2023, 10:06:33 AM
Thank you for all the input. As I've mentioned I have a ridiculously long list of stuff I have on order that just keeps on getting longer. Once it all comes and I have a chance to look it over and use it, I will post a full list of everything I ordered and a one line review.

Looking forward to it, you aliexpressoholic
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Tijoe on October 19, 2023, 10:57:49 AM
So far this year, I have ordered 75 items from Aliexpress. (63, cycling related items)   I have been very please with almost all the items I have purchased.   Only one item this year has had problems.  it is an ultralight 2 person tent I purchased.  The lightweight carbon poles broke on me during a bike packing trip, so I ended up purchasing a Big Agnes tent in Steamboat Springs, Colorado as I rode through the town.

The tent and fly cover is high quality, but the poles suck!  The "Ultralight Camping Store says they are working on a better quality/stronger set of poles for me. (It has been 3 months now since I heard back from them)

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832732594133.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.214.10931802ZCdDIj&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa


Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: dsveddy on October 19, 2023, 10:17:52 PM
Good:
- Sportspy aero socks. Aero socks are already the best drag saved per $ item, but you can get 90% of what R28 sells from sportspy for less than 1/2 the price
- Ridenow TPU, in the 19g guise
- XCADEY crankset with spider mounted powermeter
- various carbon handlebars: integrated, drop, MTB, you name it, I've pretty much never ordered a terrible handlebar on aliex
- various carbon seatposts
- knockoff sunglasses of all kinds
- Ardunel Mandible knockoff bottle cages. Most recently bought a pair from Yao Bin, they're dec
- CCN light overshoes: if your shoe size is small enough, I quite like these
- 1-piece SROAD CNC steel cassettes (SRAM x-dome knockoff). I know a lot of people shit on these, but I frankly find them to be fine and exceptionally light for the price. I've bought 4 so far I've had examples in 10, 11, and 12s. All perform great.

Mid:
- LTWOO hydraulic groupset: pretty alright performance but shifter broke over a pothole

Bad:

- Magene QED P325 powermeter crankset with integrated chainring: chainring is soft and gets out of true. Expensive. Magene has been terrible to work with on this for warranty, I'm basically screwed. The crankset isn't compatible with any other chainrings. Power meter isn't exactly accurate. Crank arm+power meter design is pretty un-aero since the strain gauge units protrude a lot.

- ZRace direct mount brake calipers: they suck. Not well manufactured. Leaky. Don't bleed well. Wide/bulky, which makes them un-aero.



Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: eddietheengineer on October 27, 2023, 10:16:24 AM

- 1-piece SROAD CNC steel cassettes (SRAM x-dome knockoff). I know a lot of people shit on these, but I frankly find them to be fine and exceptionally light for the price. I've bought 4 so far I've had examples in 10, 11, and 12s. All perform great.

Do you have any links to a 10 speed SROAD cassette? I've been trying to find one (I'm on old 2008 generation Sram Red on my road bike and Sram XO 1x10 on my mountain bike), but it's difficult to find. I'd assumed there's not enough volume to justify an Aliexpress seller making a 10 speed version, but I'd love to be wrong there :)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: coffeebreak on October 27, 2023, 11:23:45 AM
The good which I will order again or have ordered multiple times already:

1. Blackbird GPS mount: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803662704812.html - Love the look. Minimalist and stable. Have it on 3 bikes.
2. RISK bar end plugs with expander : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800099911213.html
3. XOSS light : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804318675408.html - minimalist black monoblock design that goes really well with the Blackbird mount above.
4. Ultralight cassettes for road (Not MTB) : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800045575507.html - Sunshine is just one, many others make same design. Had good luck with road cassettes but not MTB. Stick to 11-28/30. Have it on 3 bikes.
5. No name, unbranded carbon saddle : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804373322850.html - Used to be $18 and arguably the best one I have found. As good as MIXD branded ones. Its unfortunate they have increased the prices. Have it on 2 bikes.
6. TOWILD light : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802488550065.html - way better battery life than XOSS but isn't slick. Battery can be taken out and replaced on the fly, excellent beam.
7. ZNIINO H corner bard copy : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804059388076.html - Fantastic. No flex, super light and just plain clever (thanks to Surly). Bought 3 times.
8. Garmin Varia tail light mount : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804675184906.html - Amazon sells these for $12 each. Get 10 pack from Alix for $25.


Money down the drain products:

1. Cyplus/blackbird/Moots and what not speed-cadence sensors: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2261800105285991.html
2. Cheap ZRACE rotors : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804147936070.html - couldn't stop their wailing. Not cheap either. Get Shimano RT30/56 for same price but better performance with resin pads.
3. Cyclami ultralight tubes : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803947217839.html - slow leaks, damage during installation, leak from valve base. Everything that could go bad went bad - except actual flat from foreign object.
4. Tiny underseat bag : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804445576703.html - trash
5. Tubeless rim tapes - avoid all from Alix.
6. RISK colored screws for stems - Not Ti. Poor soft material that strips easily.
7. Sunshine MTB 12 speed cassettes : https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803959318100.html - too much variation between cassettes. Could not index two of them. Poor QC. Hit or miss, buy at your own risk.
8. Cheap $5-6 bar tapes
9. Ceramic jockey wheels - your shifting will suffer. Don't matter how cool they look or for what derailleur they are being used. Every single derailleur I used them on (105 R7000, Ultegra R6800 and 8000, SRAM Red 22) caused shifting to go bad.




Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: AzureEssence on October 28, 2023, 08:42:07 PM
Here are some quick reviews of stuff I've received so far:

Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Crash217 on October 28, 2023, 09:08:53 PM
Has anyone gotten carbon mountain bike bars from AliExpress?  I tried searching but didn't find anything very specific.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on October 30, 2023, 01:01:29 PM
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805804839530.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805804839530.html)

I just wanted to chime in regarding the RiRo carbon crankset. So far I like this crankset much better than the Racework crankset that follows the Shimano style crank arm setup. Unfortunately Racework's non-drive side crank arm is prone to cracking and I would not recommend it. The RiRo crankset has what appears to be the same carbon crank arms as Racework just with different branding. It has the SRAM style crank interface (though it works just fine using a standard BSA bottom bracket). I find it structurally more solid, but the only potential weakness is user error by accidentally cross-threading the drive side fixing bolt which doesn't seem replaceable. Also you'll need a bigger adjustable torque wrench to set the minimum 35nm to lock it in place. Either that or just tighten it enough so you don't feel turn any further.

I've installed it on my 1x gravel bike with no issue. At this point if you want a somewhat affordable carbon crankset, I would avoid the Racework and go for the RiRo. Though it's a bit more trickier to install if you're not familiar with this style of crankset (compared to Shimano). Just make sure to secure the fixing bolt first from the drive side and then adjust it for fit on the non-drive side threaded locking ring.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: hagerd on October 30, 2023, 01:15:52 PM
For the Raceworks cranks that are prone to cracking, I thought this was only for the pinch bolt style. It looks like they have revised the crank to be SRAM style which may fix the issue.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on October 30, 2023, 01:19:58 PM
For the Raceworks cranks that are prone to cracking, I thought this was only for the pinch bolt style. It looks like they have revised the crank to be SRAM style which may fix the issue.

Ugh, I didn't even realize they updated their cranks. In that case, the new interface is much better! Also it looks like the RiRo and Racework cranksets are the same now. I guess get whichever you prefer. It just sucks for us early adopters on these Chinese components!
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: frnchy on November 01, 2023, 05:34:35 PM
Looking through my orders, I realize just how much bike stuff I've bought on Aliexpress...  might as well contribute my experiences. I'm not going to review the genuine name-brand (pretty much all Shimano) components I've bought, as those are known quantities. The subsections below are in no particular order, as I'm just going through my order history to compile this list.

Best of the best to very good

Very good to good

Good to meh

Meh to bad

Just plain bad
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: AzureEssence on November 01, 2023, 08:44:23 PM
^ Thanks for all the input, so many goodies in there. Those purple jockey wheels would be perfect on my purple Cotic FlareMax.

More stuff I've received:











Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Maden on November 02, 2023, 03:29:45 AM
SERAPH road handlebars: my favorite road handlebars ever. Such a nice shape, well-made, light and stiff, nice channel on the underside for clean and easy cable routing. I hope they never go out of production. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800581774460.html

Do you know the reach and drop measurement of these bars?
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: frnchy on November 02, 2023, 09:34:43 AM
Do you know the reach and drop measurement of these bars?

Just measured them and they look to be about 75 mm reach and 125 mm drop.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: 00Garza on November 02, 2023, 03:14:10 PM

Best of the best to very good
  • Flyxii FE-02 gravel bike frame: a real tank of a gravel frame. I love mine.


I have this frame. Almost 1k miles on it. Only complaint is quite a fit of flexing when standing on the pedals. Fortunately my area is pretty flat so thats rare.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: ghiabici on November 02, 2023, 08:04:33 PM
I'll add a few of my recommendations :


Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: coffeebreak on November 02, 2023, 11:28:37 PM
None of the above links open up for me, they all just go to Aliex home page. Wanted to look at the bar tape and rear light mount but search is useless. Could you add pictures of both?
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: ghiabici on November 03, 2023, 12:45:37 AM
None of the above links open up for me, they all just go to Aliex home page. Wanted to look at the bar tape and rear light mount but search is useless. Could you add pictures of both?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_msMEf68 Rongyao Bar Tape
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mt3dxVw West Biking Bar tape
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMt6VUY Saddle light mount

(https://i.ibb.co/bmCHLSX/695401584-1757320070.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zxB8byZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/5x28YRY/14311525462009331720.jpg) (https://ibb.co/93GTwrw)
(https://i.ibb.co/x3q9JDQ/21313466861477265780.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kM2bQxF)

Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: electrolux on November 03, 2023, 05:44:13 AM
None of the above links open up for me, they all just go to Aliex home page. Wanted to look at the bar tape and rear light mount but search is useless. Could you add pictures of both?
If you copy and paste it works.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on November 03, 2023, 11:12:29 AM

Just plain bad
  • Juintech F1 brake calipers: I just could never get these to brake all that well. I tried different pads, rotors, preload adjustment, etc etc etc; ultimately I was descending a notoriously steep and winding local road and I nearly lost all braking power, even after stopping and letting the system cool down for almost 10 minutes. I ordered 105 hydraulic shifters and brakes the next day and they're infintely better. Don't bother with these or other cable/hydro solutions, just go hydro. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255799928780428.html

I'm surprised you listed the Juin Tech F1 calipers as bad. I have mine setup on my road bike and they work just fine. I do nothing but climbing and descending as well and I've been lazy to swap over Ultegra R8020 hydraulic shifters I have. Though I'm using higher tension gold brake cabling and semi-metallic finned pads that were released in the last few months. It's made a huge difference in performance.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: frnchy on November 03, 2023, 05:16:07 PM
I'm surprised you listed the Juin Tech F1 calipers as bad. I have mine setup on my road bike and they work just fine. I do nothing but climbing and descending as well and I've been lazy to swap over Ultegra R8020 hydraulic shifters I have. Though I'm using higher tension gold brake cabling and semi-metallic finned pads that were released in the last few months. It's made a huge difference in performance.

I got the Juin Techs in large part because of their positive reputation; I used Jagwire compressionless housing and Shimano brake cables and did all the tweaking I possibly could but they never even came close to the modulation and power of even the cheapest hydro brakes I've tried. I wasn't kind to them in operation either; I'm quite fat and the brakes were on my heaviest bike, and most of the roads around me are in the mountains and descend 2,000-4,000 feet at a time with gradients of 8-20%, and they're often winding too so there's not much downtime for the brakes to cool off.  The particular descent that caused me to get rid of the Juin Techs was Magnolia road (https://pjammcycling.com/climb/238.Magnolia%2520Road) which I use as the ultimate stress test for my braking components.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Tijoe on November 03, 2023, 05:56:57 PM
I have 2 sets of the GT-P4s and one set of the F1s  I wrote in another thread here why I am moving away from them.   
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Ryan_M on November 08, 2023, 11:13:25 PM
I'm in need of new bottle cages so this interests me much...
do these carbon ones, recommended above, scratch the bottles? My only experience with carbon cages was one of those Bontrager XXX knock-offs, and while it held the bottle well it just left it all scratched, maybe because it was too tight, but I also believe it was a case of rough edges on the carbon.
I moved to Elite Cannibal bottle cages, the nylon one which is already pretty good at <30g each, but the price on these ones right now is just insane, at least here in Brazil.

Another one I was interested is this Xoss N2 one in nylon (https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005004280875987.html), seems pretty good price/weight relation
Maybe too late but I (and my GF) have these on our bikes. Maybe 14 in total? All have been flawless.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32939053708.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.27.3c455bbc9KIurR&algo_pvid=cc3535c7-a4e9-49d4-be28-bb80014c8b10&algo_exp_id=cc3535c7-a4e9-49d4-be28-bb80014c8b10-13&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21CAD%2168.16%2130.67%21%21%2148.32%21%21%402101fb0a16995069549822831e8582%2166128263833%21sea%21CA%212589744473%21&curPageLogUid=FmSjcdju58L7
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Tijoe on November 08, 2023, 11:45:12 PM
Maybe too late but I (and my GF) have these on our bikes. Maybe 14 in total? All have been flawless.


I have have six of them on 3 bikes,  Two of my three 29er hardtails, and on my gravel bike.   (I have had a few large bottle knocked out over the past season, but overall they are great cages.)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Wet Noodle on November 11, 2023, 12:35:02 PM
Not in the overal-best category, but imo deserving of a place on the more-than-decent-for-the-price list:

I like these softshell cloves.
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S0b6236562752418890ee5ad1472b3d3di.jpg)
Apart from the gimmicky zipper, these are very basic no-nonsense gloves for autumn or very mild early/late-winter days. Beware, the different-colour materials might also feel different. I have a new-version set in grey and an older set in black. The black ones are of thinner material on the outside. As for looks, the red rubber thingies can be removed with a sharp blade (the one on the zipper has to be cut, for the other the seem can be cut without damaging anything else).

As pointed out by others (and me), these particular SCVCN sunglasses are kind of nice for the price (for people with smaller heads).
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Sf969b94e01364934867cd764966852d4l.jpg?width=800&height=918&hash=1718) (https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Aa46a9f27acc645708eb01b5161f01c5aN.jpg)
Between decent and good: Plain photochromic lenses, black and blue polarising lenses as well as those colour variants that mostly stick to a single colour (depending on taste and use case). The funkier colour-gradient lenses, I find meh (red among them, which is really more like red-golden-something and shows notably different colours depending whether you look straight or to the side).

So far, this tiny smart tail light does what it is supposed to on my daily driver (and completely on its own, apart from charging)
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S8b0f6749a4734fa8bb59497b6b925a4d2.jpg)
It does the auto-on/off thing with an ambient light and an accel sensor (if you want it to) and has a brake light function (which gets a bit nervous with heavy vibration/shocks as well, but that's not a bad thing).

All of the above seem to be regulars in the 3-for-6-bucks-shipped shelf. Basic variants of the glasses go for as low as 2 bucks, same with the gloves (but 3 bucks for the grey ones, when I last checked). The tail light was 6, I think (but there where several of similar functionality, some cheaper still). With the ridiculous pricing in mind, pls do manage expectations.
(I didn't post links as they might or might not work depending on region and stuff. I hope the pictures are showing, though.)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on November 17, 2023, 01:33:18 PM
I've completely given up on Spedao/SRoad ultralight cassettes. The small 11/12t cogs aren't able to withstand out of saddle power sprints. The cogs will start to slip. Save your money, stick with Shimano cassettes and lighten your bike elsewhere.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Wet Noodle on December 20, 2023, 03:10:17 PM
Not the least bit bike-related, but I just have to. I kind of fell in love with Hobibear barefoot shoes. Apart from the obvious barefooty stuff (thin flexible sole, virtually no dampening, no arch to speak of), they're the most comfy shoes I've worn in a long time, and by a lot. They feel soo good, it's ridiculous (but feet are different, ymmv).

Now as for value: They sell in the 40-bucks range on Amazon (some as Hobibear, some as Within) and the BF crowd seems to like them at that price. On Ali, you can get some models below 25 bucks more or less regularly, and a few as low as ~15(!)* - shipped to the EU. Quality looks decent for 40 bucks, but for ~20, it's almost stellar (now, there will be lemons, but I have yet to get one; uh, shouldn't jinx it). Great value.

(https://hobibear.de/cdn/shop/files/IMGL9375.jpg) (https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S67ad51d0169e4b96ab46b53b01a42fa4F.jpg) (https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Sf7026779358a428eb104ca5c2b8b2689g.jpg)

There are a few slightly different cuts (where overall shape and fit seems rather similar), a few different colours, textile and faux leather options. Unless you're triggered by the slight clown-shoe look that comes with a wideish ergonomically-shaped toe box, they look really nice.

*) Click around a bit to stuff your search history and then check the coins discount-finder page** (discounts there only work when you "buy now"). And then click around some more. Some have the 3-20 deal on them, some go cheaper as early-bird deals and what have you, and then, some of those are listed on the coins discount page. YMMV.
**) Will for some reason show higher discounts when visited through a mobile browser (probably the same with the app).
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jefflinde on December 20, 2023, 06:52:31 PM
Any thoughts on RISK vs. Wanyifa bolts? I have had the latter in my cart for while.

I am pretty hard on my bikes. Ridden in the rain and mud then hosed down with one of those Muc Off pressure washers, ive trashed a few sets of stock sram jockey wheels as well. I only have sram groups at this point so the ones with 689 bearings use reducers. Between those reducers, the shields, and the questionable quality of the bearings there is a lot of play. They also died really quickly.

Kogel is pretty average IMO regarding bearings but their design work is good and the 688 bearing size has a lot of great bearings available for it. Eventually the plan is to swap these out for Enduro XD-15 bearings. Curious to see if they really are a tough as their reputation.

I have wanyifa to on all my bikes and love it.  I have a few risk items but I don't like labels and I also wanted to get some strange size bolts.  So unless you are looking for the really weird specific parts, I would recommend wanyifa or even try craftsman.   
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: thebigmotorunit on December 21, 2023, 11:42:18 PM
  • Spcycle MTB handlebars: generic carbon MTB handlebars, but very well-made with a clean interior. Plenty strong, I've taken these down some real jarring singletrack with no issue.
Did you happen to get the weight on these?
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: frnchy on December 22, 2023, 12:07:58 AM
Did you happen to get the weight on these?
Unfortunately not, but they aren’t exceptionally light or heavy. Probably in the neighborhood of 200-220 grams or so? Hard to remember, it’s been a year since I got them.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Joyride on December 22, 2023, 10:50:44 AM
Ive purchased a bunch of small things that have already been mentioned.  The one thing I keep coming back to is the Mixed 5D saddle.  Great shape and padding, while only 120g.  I put one one all my bikes.  It survived a pretty abusive XC season as well.  Sure beats the hell out of a similar S-Works Power at 10% the cost.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803325810840.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: AzureEssence on December 24, 2023, 11:18:20 AM
Ive purchased a bunch of small things that have already been mentioned.  The one thing I keep coming back to is the Mixed 5D saddle.  Great shape and padding, while only 120g.  I put one one all my bikes.  It survived a pretty abusive XC season as well.  Sure beats the hell out of a similar S-Works Power at 10% the cost.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803325810840.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt

Thanks for the heads up! I'm going to try one of these on my trail bike to slim it down a tad. It's steel so it will always be pretty heavy, but trying to make it more reasonable.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: coffeebreak on December 24, 2023, 02:01:29 PM
+1 for MIXED branded saddles, they are terrific. I have the 5D too. Definitely a cut above other Aliex saddles as far as finishing goes.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: s3si1u on December 27, 2023, 11:27:04 AM
These SCVCN photochromic glasses are simultaneously great and terrible.
I wore them a handful of times and they quickly became my favorite glasses, but they can't survive a 5 ish foot drop onto carpet. :-\ Arm snapped right off.
Tbh considering I paid $2, I'll probably buy them again.  ;D
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: electrolux on December 28, 2023, 02:34:13 PM
+1 for MIXED branded saddles, they are terrific. I have the 5D too. Definitely a cut above other Aliex saddles as far as finishing goes.
The rails on mine delaminated. The seller was good even after a month told me to order another and request a return through AliX then send back the old model. They also assured me that the factory had a new process for glueing rails. I havent ridden the new one since I got the Ryet 3d one instead.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: kenderu on December 29, 2023, 02:43:46 PM
These SCVCN photochromic glasses are simultaneously great and terrible.
I wore them a handful of times and they quickly became my favorite glasses, but they can't survive a 5 ish foot drop onto carpet. :-\ Arm snapped right off.
Tbh considering I paid $2, I'll probably buy them again.  ;D

Similarily, I like the POAT photochromic glasses (pretty sure it's a POC clone).  The ones with the multicolour sides are built better than the solid colour sides (they use a different plastic for the solid black or white glasses arms and it feels much cheaper).  One bad thing is the lens pop out once in a while, but you can just pop them back in no problem.

I have 4 pairs that I cycle throughout the year, and no issues with them.  They've survived falling off my helmet quite a few times too, everytime the lens just pops out and once you pop it back in it is good ads new.

I've been meaning to try the SCVCN but I bought too many of the POAT ones...
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: zxcvbnmjm on January 02, 2024, 02:32:24 AM
fake G8 insoles

i havent tried authentic g8 insoles but these are cheap as chips and work well for me. ive been using them for over a year

The real ones cost over $100 iirc

plenty of youtube videos teaching about the benefits and how to use them

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805604633625.html?channel=facebook&fbclid=IwAR39Kd1LtDdXYhtfLicUDkvbcLqwPc6I8EZEDhP2lRlnqxNvuhlzFylLfmU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDnieUWB224&ab_channel=CadeMedia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpW-JCOshY&ab_channel=G8Performance
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Greenred on January 02, 2024, 09:38:10 AM
The rails on mine delaminated. The seller was good even after a month told me to order another and request a return through AliX then send back the old model. They also assured me that the factory had a new process for glueing rails. I havent ridden the new one since I got the Ryet 3d one instead.

How does your Ryet 3D compare to the Mixed 5D?
I’m currently on the fence and have too many saddles laying around already.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: electrolux on January 02, 2024, 12:04:29 PM
How does your Ryet 3D compare to the Mixed 5D?
I’m currently on the fence and have too many saddles laying around already.
I ordered the Mixed 7D, it was too narrow for me. The Ryet saddle definitely feels far better quality and the the base to rail bonding seems much more robust.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: RDY on January 03, 2024, 03:02:13 AM
fake G8 insoles

i havent tried authentic g8 insoles but these are cheap as chips and work well for me. ive been using them for over a year

The real ones cost over $100 iirc

plenty of youtube videos teaching about the benefits and how to use them

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805604633625.html?channel=facebook&fbclid=IwAR39Kd1LtDdXYhtfLicUDkvbcLqwPc6I8EZEDhP2lRlnqxNvuhlzFylLfmU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDnieUWB224&ab_channel=CadeMedia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpW-JCOshY&ab_channel=G8Performance

I haven't ridden them but I've handled genuine G8s.  They're very cheaply made and ridiculously priced ... I don't know whether the ones you have are a full on replica, but it wouldn't be difficult to do.  IMO they're the kind of thing all premium shoes should come with, but don't - but they're way too pricey for an aftermarket offering given the pretty low quality.

For anyone wanting a higher quality full carbon insole with good arch and heel support, I'd recommend Winsole.  Though if you're using super narrow shoes, they probably won't work.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: sbellote on January 03, 2024, 06:11:25 AM
fake G8 insoles

i havent tried authentic g8 insoles but these are cheap as chips and work well for me. ive been using them for over a year

The real ones cost over $100 iirc

plenty of youtube videos teaching about the benefits and how to use them

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805604633625.html?channel=facebook&fbclid=IwAR39Kd1LtDdXYhtfLicUDkvbcLqwPc6I8EZEDhP2lRlnqxNvuhlzFylLfmU
I have these. Two pairs which I've been using for >2yrs
they're really good for the price and solved my issues with shoes, I definitely needed arch support and the 'common' insoles I've tried didn't work. Found these on Ali, bought one and another after around 3 months to have as spare (they actually went out of stock for a year or so, came back some months ago)

my experience is that they work really well, but the plastic on the arches is not the best, it starts to soften after some time. So like I started with the no.3 arch but it turned to a 2 effectively, so I had to change to a 4 to keep the support as it should.
Also the glue between the plastic part below and the foam is not good, if you get any water in it'll detach. But easily solved just glued back together

other than that, is really nice, and for sure worth the price. A fraction of the real one, but of reasonable quality, and the customization is worth it.

How does your Ryet 3D compare to the Mixed 5D?
I’m currently on the fence and have too many saddles laying around already.
I had the Mixed for some time, then changed to the Ryet 3D (pro stealth model) and now am testing a different Ryet 3D on my mtb
in terms of quality and finishing, I'd say they're on par with each other. But talking about comfort, definitely would go with the 3D. It softens enough when riding, but don't 'compress' like the foam saddle in long rides.
you need to be more aware of the shape, actually, and try a model that works better for you. Ryet have been releasing a number of different 3D saddles so a lot of shapes to choose from, grab the closest to a saddle you have and like and you should be ok
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: nicklej on January 05, 2024, 03:06:46 AM
Did you happen to get the weight on these?

I got some generic carbon ones in 760mm in 175g and have been great. I recently changed them out for some alloy ones though since I'm playing with the amount of backsweep.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Tijoe on January 05, 2024, 11:13:33 AM
My first shipping casualty in a long time....   The plastic they used on this bottle is very stiff, and has little to no flex and softness.

Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: ckot on January 09, 2024, 03:41:46 PM
Similarily, I like the POAT photochromic glasses (pretty sure it's a POC clone).  The ones with the multicolour sides are built better than the solid colour sides (they use a different plastic for the solid black or white glasses arms and it feels much cheaper).  One bad thing is the lens pop out once in a while, but you can just pop them back in no problem.

I have 4 pairs that I cycle throughout the year, and no issues with them.  They've survived falling off my helmet quite a few times too, everytime the lens just pops out and once you pop it back in it is good ads new.

I've been meaning to try the SCVCN but I bought too many of the POAT ones...

I have the Rockbros ones that are usually $25 on Amazon.  They have been great for the last couple of years.  Photochromatic adjustments can be a little slow when you move into shade, but I'm not sure how much better expensive versions would be. 
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: 00Garza on January 09, 2024, 09:42:51 PM
These SCVCN photochromic glasses are simultaneously great and terrible.
I wore them a handful of times and they quickly became my favorite glasses, but they can't survive a 5 ish foot drop onto carpet. :-\ Arm snapped right off.
Tbh considering I paid $2, I'll probably buy them again.  ;D

Just got mine in. They actually fit my tiny head well, but they don’t feel like they’ll survive much trail use. They’ll be a back up pair for now.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: RDY on January 15, 2024, 03:38:24 AM
I have the Rockbros ones that are usually $25 on Amazon.  They have been great for the last couple of years.  Photochromatic adjustments can be a little slow when you move into shade, but I'm not sure how much better expensive versions would be.

I only have experience with Oakley and they're very slow to react.  I think only very expensive glass lens photochromic lenses are reasonably quick to change - Zeiss etc.  The new electronic ones are instant though.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: coffeebreak on January 18, 2024, 01:33:04 PM
Does anyone have good experience with Evosid/Goldix/Zeroing GXP 2x chain rings? I am on my second (Goldix this time) after the first one Evosid came warped from factory. The large chainring was not true. Returned it and got Goldix and this one has even more warp to it :( basically there is no position on front derailleur where it doesn't rub. I can make it work on large chainring + smallest 3 cogs on cassette but pretty much any other combo results in chain rub where the ring warps. I am guessing even the small ring is out of true but not very noticeable. Back it goes and I have returned to Ultegra 6800 cranks/rings. I guess I need to pony up and get the Pass Quest rings - those have been great on my other bike.

Here are the rings in question -
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805884082490.html
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806059837660.html

Stay away from these I guess.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on January 18, 2024, 02:06:38 PM
Does anyone have good experience with Evosid/Goldix/Zeroing GXP 2x chain rings? I am on my second (Goldix this time) after the first one Evosid came warped from factory. The large chainring was not true. Returned it and got Goldix and this one has even more warp to it :( basically there is no position on front derailleur where it doesn't rub. I can make it work on large chainring + smallest 3 cogs on cassette but pretty much any other combo results in chain rub where the ring warps. I am guessing even the small ring is out of true but not very noticeable. Back it goes and I have returned to Ultegra 6800 cranks/rings. I guess I need to pony up and get the Pass Quest rings - those have been great on my other bike.

Here are the rings in question -
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805884082490.html
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806059837660.html

Stay away from these I guess.

Most if not all the direct mount 2x chainrings from AliExpress suck. They tend to need spacers and they wear fast.  The only good ones that I've tried are the Senicx 2x chainrings. No spacers needed, they seem better aligned (less flimsy alloy) and I haven't noticed significant wear compared to Shimano chainrings. The only issue is that the chain drop pin is a bit long if using non-Senicx cranks. Though it's easily removable by unscrewing it. I now use 2x Senicx chainrings on all my bikes paired with carbon cranks. I also like that they do a 46:30t chainring for 2x gravel. Pass Quest chainrings are excellent as well, but they don't do direct mount for 2x.

This shop has the best prices I found for Senicx chainrings and I think it's another store front for Sensah: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805631117902.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805631117902.html)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: coffeebreak on January 18, 2024, 03:27:32 PM
Thanks for the Senicx recommendation. Unfortunately I'm not seeing the 48/32 option which Evosid and others have. May be I'll get the 50/34 and call it a day.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: nickobec on January 25, 2024, 02:53:33 AM
I have these. Two pairs which I've been using for >2yrs
they're really good for the price and solved my issues with shoes, I definitely needed arch support and the 'common' insoles I've tried didn't work. Found these on Ali, bought one and another after around 3 months to have as spare (they actually went out of stock for a year or so, came back some months ago)

my experience is that they work really well, but the plastic on the arches is not the best, it starts to soften after some time. So like I started with the no.3 arch but it turned to a 2 effectively, so I had to change to a 4 to keep the support as it should.
Also the glue between the plastic part below and the foam is not good, if you get any water in it'll detach. But easily solved just glued back together

other than that, is really nice, and for sure worth the price. A fraction of the real one, but of reasonable quality, and the customization is worth it.
I have owned a pair of G8 Performance 2620 insoles for over 3 years and 30,000km. Happy with them, but not the price for replacements as they do wear out. So when I  saw these copies I purchased a couple of pairs.

They look almost identical to the G8s, so much the arch supports looks and feels the same and are interchangeable. Which is good news as the arch supports do degrade over time (a comment BikeFit James made about the G8 on YouTube, I have experienced with my G8 and
but the plastic on the arches is not the best, it starts to soften after some time.
The difference is in the sole, 2620 are available in 4 sizes, the copy is one size, looks based on a large (I have a med 2620) and can be trimmed to any size between 41 and 46.
The sole looks to be made of similar but slightly different material
The heel and footbed attachment points sit flush with the original, the copy  they protrude a little from the sole.
Very happy with my  purchase and will make good use of them.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Tijoe on January 30, 2024, 11:05:24 PM
I want to complain about the Bikinge Store.  Today, they cancelled the bicycle stem I had on order from them.  Both times I have ordered from them there has had a problem.   The previous item, I had to wait the full 60 days to apply for my refund. This store does not respond to my messages either.

Here is the link to the item they cancelled. 

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800405028328.html

I recommend that fellow members put this store on their do not purchase from list.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Greenred on January 31, 2024, 02:46:24 AM
Most if not all the direct mount 2x chainrings from AliExpress suck. They tend to need spacers and they wear fast.  The only good ones that I've tried are the Senicx 2x chainrings. No spacers needed, they seem better aligned (less flimsy alloy) and I haven't noticed significant wear compared to Shimano chainrings. The only issue is that the chain drop pin is a bit long if using non-Senicx cranks. Though it's easily removable by unscrewing it. I now use 2x Senicx chainrings on all my bikes paired with carbon cranks. I also like that they do a 46:30t chainring for 2x gravel. Pass Quest chainrings are excellent as well, but they don't do direct mount for 2x.

This shop has the best prices I found for Senicx chainrings and I think it's another store front for Sensah: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805631117902.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805631117902.html)

I’ll likely go down that route as well, Senicx paired with the Riro carbon cranks. HOWEVER, I’m a bit hesitant regarding the choice of the old 3 bolt system regarding availability of chainring replacement.
So far all I could find was senicx offering 30-46T chainrings in a 3 bolt spec. What happens if Senicx decommissions it I’m wondering… then you’re left with 1 by chainrings I guess? Or potentially using an adapter to a 4 arm chainring? The latter I only speculate, don’t have any experience.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: TidyDinosaur on January 31, 2024, 03:48:01 AM
I’ll likely go down that route as well, Senicx paired with the Riro carbon cranks. HOWEVER, I’m a bit hesitant regarding the choice of the old 3 bolt system regarding availability of chainring replacement.
So far all I could find was senicx offering 30-46T chainrings in a 3 bolt spec. What happens if Senicx decommissions it I’m wondering… then you’re left with 1 by chainrings I guess? Or potentially using an adapter to a 4 arm chainring? The latter I only speculate, don’t have any experience.
You can probably use an adapter. Just see if your chainring sizes are offered in the BCD of the adapter you will buy. Or just buy a couple of Scenicx chainrings...  :)
Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but you can not use 1x chainrings in a 2x setup
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on January 31, 2024, 12:01:36 PM
I’ll likely go down that route as well, Senicx paired with the Riro carbon cranks. HOWEVER, I’m a bit hesitant regarding the choice of the old 3 bolt system regarding availability of chainring replacement.
So far all I could find was senicx offering 30-46T chainrings in a 3 bolt spec. What happens if Senicx decommissions it I’m wondering… then you’re left with 1 by chainrings I guess? Or potentially using an adapter to a 4 arm chainring? The latter I only speculate, don’t have any experience.

Regarding long term availability, during AliEx sales I've purchased spare Senicx chainrings. I haven't seen any indication of direct mount chainrings being phased out, since it seems to be the most plentiful crankset option on AliExpress. Also my bias towards Senicx chainrings is mostly due to having the same alignment as Shimano cranksets. Little to no FD adjustments are needed.

Also there's another option now for 46-30t chainrings and even 48-32t. Though I haven't tried this particular version yet, so I can't vouch for quality:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806059837660.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806059837660.html)

Also it looks you can adapt 5 bolt 46-32t chainrings as well (using a direct mount to 5 bolt adapter):
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805837927313.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805837927313.html)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on January 31, 2024, 12:12:44 PM
If you're running 10 speed, these are the only sub-sub compact 2x chainrings I found available on AliEx. Though it's possible the chainrings could work with 11 speed chains, but I'm not going to try it:

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801844290163.html? (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801844290163.html?)

Since most my terrain is long road stretches with steep dirt climbing, I've been trying to explore other gearing options without going the big cassette route and relying on extender hangers. I prefer my shifting to be fast and smooth. Running 2x with out of spec big cassettes just feels clunky. Unfortunately you'll need a 2x MTB crankset and no one makes a 2x 104/64bcd 3 bolt adapter (only 1x 104bcd is available).
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: coffeebreak on January 31, 2024, 12:13:58 PM
Also there's another option now for 46-30t chainrings and even 48-32t. Though I haven't tried this particular version yet, so I can't vouch for quality:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806059837660.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806059837660.html)


I bought the 48-32 version - came warped from factory. Not minor either, you could see the rings weren't perfectly flat. Sent back. I have now ordered GXP to 110 BCD 5 arm adapter from Fovno. Just gonna use some good ol' FSA rings that were put out of commission by Pass Quest chainrings a while ago.
The adapter in question  - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805156905073.html $8
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on January 31, 2024, 02:54:34 PM
I bought the 48-32 version - came warped from factory. Not minor either, you could see the rings weren't perfectly flat. Sent back. I have now ordered GXP to 110 BCD 5 arm adapter from Fovno. Just gonna use some good ol' FSA rings that were put out of commission by Pass Quest chainrings a while ago.
The adapter in question  - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805156905073.html $8

I've been curious about Fovno chainrings and cranksets and they do make a 48-32t direct mount chainring, but price-wise they're a bit more expensive. The quality appears to be good. Anyone with experience using them?

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805319965924.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805319965924.html)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Greenred on January 31, 2024, 04:02:47 PM
I bought the 48-32 version - came warped from factory. Not minor either, you could see the rings weren't perfectly flat. Sent back. I have now ordered GXP to 110 BCD 5 arm adapter from Fovno. Just gonna use some good ol' FSA rings that were put out of commission by Pass Quest chainrings a while ago.
The adapter in question  - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805156905073.html $8

Sorry to hear. I remember tracevelo also marked them as trash along some other brands.

Buying some spare 30-46 chainrings from Senicx sounds reasonable just to make sure.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on February 01, 2024, 11:53:32 AM
Sorry to hear. I remember tracevelo also marked them as trash along some other brands.

Buying some spare 30-46 chainrings from Senicx sounds reasonable just to make sure.

1st of the month sales, it's a good time to buy your spare Senicx chainrings right now:

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805631117902.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805631117902.html)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: mirphak on February 01, 2024, 03:15:11 PM
Got them ! .
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: sbellote on February 02, 2024, 05:46:50 AM
any good option of sram 8 bolt compatible chainrings?
I have a Magene P325CS crank+chainring, and soon I'll have to replace the rings since they're pretty worn out (after all it's 3yrs and >20.000km on them). I could go for the official spare (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/4001203275693.html) but the issue is the price and import duties for Brazil. Since it's >50usd I end up paying double when added taxes  :'(
so I'm looking for alternatives... considering even getting a spider + chainrings in a different configuration if needed


on another note, after taking some time out from purchases in Aliexpress, getting just the essential (some tools, tubes, etc), I'm back on buying some stuff for testing
just got 2 bibs (spexcel and lameda), a spare chest strap for my HRM, and I'm taking my chances with the Bryton Gardia R300L radar - been on the lookout for a long time, now it's on a good price and I'll risk it, it's less than half what I'd pay in any Garmin Varia here... I'll update when it arrives (but probably in the other topic about general stuff lol)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: coffeebreak on February 07, 2024, 11:40:45 AM
I bought the 48-32 version - came warped from factory. Not minor either, you could see the rings weren't perfectly flat. Sent back. I have now ordered GXP to 110 BCD 5 arm adapter from Fovno. Just gonna use some good ol' FSA rings that were put out of commission by Pass Quest chainrings a while ago.
The adapter in question  - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805156905073.html $8

The adapter is here and on the bike already. Right off the bat, chain rub issue has gone away with those old FSA rings mounted on it. Not just chain rub but front shifting is exceedingly smooth too, I'm guessing the teeth on those Goldix/Evosid chainrings aren't machined properly.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Jet the Panda on February 22, 2024, 11:40:39 AM
I have owned a pair of G8 Performance 2620 insoles for over 3 years and 30,000km. Happy with them, but not the price for replacements as they do wear out. So when I  saw these copies I purchased a couple of pairs.

They look almost identical to the G8s, so much the arch supports looks and feels the same and are interchangeable. Which is good news as the arch supports do degrade over time (a comment BikeFit James made about the G8 on YouTube, I have experienced with my G8 and The difference is in the sole, 2620 are available in 4 sizes, the copy is one size, looks based on a large (I have a med 2620) and can be trimmed to any size between 41 and 46.
The sole looks to be made of similar but slightly different material
The heel and footbed attachment points sit flush with the original, the copy  they protrude a little from the sole.
Very happy with my  purchase and will make good use of them.
Looks like I need to get some of these in soles! Doctor told me I have pancake flat feet the other day
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Hokum on February 22, 2024, 12:44:11 PM
if you are inclined to do so, exercising your foot can actually help with that. most people would benefit exercises for long and short extensors of the foot, also tibialis posterior. might be worth checking with a qualified therapist. also if you opt for insoles, they should be fitted by someone who actually looks at your gait, worst case random insoles can cause additional problems.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: coffeebreak on March 22, 2024, 11:17:30 AM
The "Shahe" brand tools are really good. So far I ordered below 3 and their quality at those price is unbeatable.

Inclinometer -
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806182504073.html

Digital Vernier caliper -
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806152639519.html

Micrometer -
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832636432679.html

They package goods rather well too. Each of these came in specifically made Styrofoam boxes and reasonably well written manuals. Next up, I think I will try their digital torque wrench.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on March 22, 2024, 12:00:37 PM
Having used these Kactus disc rotors on my gravel bike on some steeper 15-25% downhill descents, I can now recommend them. Once the brake pad material bedded into the rotors, they have excellent bite. On my gravel bike I replaced a pair of Shimano MT800 disc rotors that always look like crap due to the light grey rotor material. Also having used both the Kactus and Onirii lightweight floating disc rotors, I prefer the Kactus rotors due to more braking surface which I think makes a difference in performance.

This store had the rotors for much cheaper, but have recently raised prices probably due to the current sale:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806205553049.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806205553049.html)


Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: TidyDinosaur on March 22, 2024, 01:01:52 PM
Having used these Kactus disc rotors on my gravel bike on some steeper 15-25% downhill descents, I can now recommend them. Once the brake pad material bedded into the rotors, they have excellent bite. On my gravel bike I replaced a pair of Shimano MT800 disc rotors that always look like crap due to the light grey rotor material. Also having used both the Kactus and Onirii lightweight floating disc rotors, I prefer the Kactus rotors due to more braking surface which I think makes a difference in performance.

This store had the rotors for much cheaper, but have recently raised prices probably due to the current sale:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806205553049.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806205553049.html)

Same here, they work great.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: ujmo_ on March 23, 2024, 07:28:49 AM
@jonathanf2, @TidyDinosaur how much did you pay for the Kactus rotors and which size did you get?
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: TidyDinosaur on March 23, 2024, 07:51:33 AM
@jonathanf2, @TidyDinosaur how much did you pay for the Kactus rotors and which size did you get?
I paid 32 USD (incl EU tax) for the CL 160mm version. 2 pieces for that price.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on March 24, 2024, 01:42:54 PM
@jonathanf2, @TidyDinosaur how much did you pay for the Kactus rotors and which size did you get?

I bought the 6 bolt 160mm rotors and they've held their price around $25 USD for a pair (at sale price). It's the centerlock rotors which have jumped up price.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: dsveddy on March 27, 2024, 04:38:46 PM
Having used these Kactus disc rotors on my gravel bike on some steeper 15-25% downhill descents, I can now recommend them. Once the brake pad material bedded into the rotors, they have excellent bite. On my gravel bike I replaced a pair of Shimano MT800 disc rotors that always look like crap due to the light grey rotor material. Also having used both the Kactus and Onirii lightweight floating disc rotors, I prefer the Kactus rotors due to more braking surface which I think makes a difference in performance.

This store had the rotors for much cheaper, but have recently raised prices probably due to the current sale:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806205553049.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806205553049.html)

Re: the Kactus rotors, I believe these (at least when they were made by ONIRII) have had a failure circulate around social media, no? Good to hear you haven't had problems with them.

Re: the new(ish)-design Onirii floating rotors, I similarly cannot recomend them. After a year of use, the rivets have started to loosen, causing the rotors to emit horrible screeching sounds under braking (coming to a stop literally sounds like a car horn). It's clear they use low-quality rivets/poor rivet application; I had a previous incident where ONIRII sent me the wrong version of the rotors (which they replaced for free), and the incorrect rotors came with a missing rivet. To boot, the bite under braking has always been super underwhelming on these as well.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Sebastian on March 29, 2024, 02:15:10 AM
On lightweight cassettes:

I bought an SROAD/Spedao monobloc 11-32 12sp cassette made of steel. Around 6000km and still going strong. Shifts perfectly fine and weighs around 230g.
On my new disc brake bike I took a gamble and bought an 11-34 12sp cassette from Goldix made of an aluminium monobloc and several single cogs made of steel. After around 2000km there's visible wear marks on at least one of the alu cogs. So much so in fact that I can provoke the chain to skip on it. Also, I never managed to set the gearing up on this cassette as smooth as I would have liked. The shifting is just rough and noticeably less smooth than on any other cassette I tried. I now went out and bought another monobloc steel cassette. This time from ZTTO because I think the design is even better than with Spedao/Sroad.
Bottom line: Don't waste your money on these alu/steel cassettes. I think no matter which manufacturer you're getting them from, they're just not that great.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: coffeebreak on March 29, 2024, 09:43:40 AM
As filler item to get to discount threshold I just bought another Wuzei ultralight 11s cassette with which I have great experience. I guess cassettes in those range are all same, made by one manufacturer and then Goldix, Ztto, Wuzei snap their lock rings on it. It's all hit or miss with such items.

I also bought a 12s 11-34 VG sports cassette because it's the only brand I had never bought stuff from. It's not ultralight and I feel 12s drive trains need much less tolerance than 11s. Don't have much hopes from it honestly. I'm also curious why there are no 11-36 cassettes in 12 speed variety. They all top out at 11-34.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on March 29, 2024, 11:24:18 AM
On lightweight cassettes:

I bought an SROAD/Spedao monobloc 11-32 12sp cassette made of steel. Around 6000km and still going strong. Shifts perfectly fine and weighs around 230g.
On my new disc brake bike I took a gamble and bought an 11-34 12sp cassette from Goldix made of an aluminium monobloc and several single cogs made of steel. After around 2000km there's visible wear marks on at least one of the alu cogs. So much so in fact that I can provoke the chain to skip on it. Also, I never managed to set the gearing up on this cassette as smooth as I would have liked. The shifting is just rough and noticeably less smooth than on any other cassette I tried. I now went out and bought another monobloc steel cassette. This time from ZTTO because I think the design is even better than with Spedao/Sroad.
Bottom line: Don't waste your money on these alu/steel cassettes. I think no matter which manufacturer you're getting them from, they're just not that great.

I don't touch any mixed alloy/steel cassettes. Especially if a cyclist does a bit of climbing, those big alloy cogs will wear quickly. Just to make note Goldix and Ztto have the same design all-steel lightweight cassettes. Goldix just sells them only in black. I believe Ztto sells them in multi-color.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Tijoe on March 29, 2024, 12:28:08 PM

I also bought a 12s 11-34 VG sports cassette because it's the only brand I had never bought stuff from. It's not ultralight and I feel 12s drive trains need much less tolerance than 11s. Don't have much hopes from it honestly. I'm also curious why there are no 11-36 cassettes in 12 speed variety. They all top out at 11-34.
I believe that the reason there aren't many 11-36 12 speed cassettes is that there are very few rear derailleurs that will handle a 2X12 set up.  The limit appears to be a 34 cassette.  (For my gravel bike, I had to swap the cage on my GRX rear derailleur to handle a 36 cassette.)

OTOH, the EDS TX kit I have on order will handle a 36 cassette.   I searched and searched Aliexpress and 2 days ago purchased this cassette.  It is a 10-36 ultralight 12 speed cassette (XDR)  (Cool!, 10 tooth rather than an 11. Now I might be able to drop to slightly smaller chainrings on the front and keep the same high gear ratio.)

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804263667198.html


Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: kbernstein on March 29, 2024, 12:39:44 PM
I can't find it anymore but I swear I have seen a 12 speed 11-36 before on ali. I think it was from ZTTO but I'm not sure. Maybe already sold out?
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Tijoe on March 29, 2024, 01:06:29 PM
I can't find it anymore but I swear I have seen a 12 speed 11-36 before on ali. I think it was from ZTTO but I'm not sure. Maybe already sold out?
Here are a couple links to the ZTTO HG cassettes where the 11-36 is listed, but this version is all steel and HEAVY!

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804572842248.html

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803293695278.html



Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: coffeebreak on March 29, 2024, 03:21:26 PM
I wish I had asked earlier. I searched and searched and couldn't find 11-36 12s cassettes only 11s. I am fairly positive Aliex search kinda plots against you and decides to filter out certain things no matter how you search.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on March 29, 2024, 05:49:40 PM
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNKEQNk (https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNKEQNk)

This is the only lightweight 11 speed 10-36t cassette I’ve seen available on AliEx. They used to have a lightweight all-steel (Spedao/ SRoad style) Ztto 10 speed 11-36t and that’s now gone.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on April 01, 2024, 11:21:23 AM
Long term report on my Cyclami electric pump. It was working great, until I had a stubborn leak in one of my tubeless tires and I might have overheated the unit. It still turns on, but now I don't feel any air blowing out of it. I tried dismantling it to see if it's something I can fix, but it uses very small torx screws and I don't have a screw driver that small.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: dsveddy on April 01, 2024, 08:27:31 PM
I don't touch any mixed alloy/steel cassettes. Especially if a cyclist does a bit of climbing, those big alloy cogs will wear quickly. Just to make note Goldix and Ztto have the same design all-steel lightweight cassettes. Goldix just sells them only in black. I believe Ztto sells them in multi-color.

I beg to differ, I have a whole season CX on a goldix XDR cassette with an aluminum low-end cog, lots of climbing in abrasive conditions, and the black anodization is hardly worn.

The reality is that with these larger cassettes that have prevailed in the last years, the wear is distributed over so many teeth, that the problem that the lowest cog wears too quickly is no longer a major issue.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on April 08, 2024, 10:57:31 AM
This Goldix cassette has my short term seal of approval. It looks to be the same as the Ztto cassette with same torx screwed spider. I picked up this cassette during the anniversary sale and installed it with the ER9 groupset in order to go 12 speed. Shifts have been smooth, it's more quiet than the Spedao/SRoad cassette and it seems to be a true one-piece design. Even the 11t cog is integrated into the cassette block. The Spedao/SRoad cassette I tried had a separate 11t cog. Even though the Spedao cassettes are a bit cheaper at this point, I think this Goldix/Ztto cassette is worth paying slightly extra for. Ztto has them in other colors, but Goldix are only in black.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806211333567.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806211333567.html)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: sbellote on April 08, 2024, 11:03:16 AM
Long term report on my Cyclami electric pump. It was working great, until I had a stubborn leak in one of my tubeless tires and I might have overheated the unit. It still turns on, but now I don't feel any air blowing out of it. I tried dismantling it to see if it's something I can fix, but it uses very small torx screws and I don't have a screw driver that small.
have you tried contacting the store or the brand? Maybe there's some way to test it o fix it and they guide you through it.
my cyclami mini pump is working great still, it's a bit over 6 months of use, and although not a heavy use, it pumped a fair share of tires (more from buddies than my owns lol)
I drained the battery a few times, but never got it 'overheated', so not sure how to help you :/
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on April 08, 2024, 11:49:45 AM
have you tried contacting the store or the brand? Maybe there's some way to test it o fix it and they guide you through it.
my cyclami mini pump is working great still, it's a bit over 6 months of use, and although not a heavy use, it pumped a fair share of tires (more from buddies than my owns lol)
I drained the battery a few times, but never got it 'overheated', so not sure how to help you :/

I bought a 2nd one as a backup during the anniversary sale. I was taking apart the first one to attempt to fix it, but when I got to the last phillips screw, I ended up rounding the screw head when my hand slipped! I got too lazy to try an extract it, so I'm just using the second pump I bought for now.

My guess is that a bit of tubeless sealant might have gotten blown into the e-pump which got caught in the internals messing things up.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Serge_K on April 08, 2024, 03:38:38 PM
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNKEQNk (https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNKEQNk)

This is the only lightweight 11 speed 10-36t cassette I’ve seen available on AliEx. They used to have a lightweight all-steel (Spedao/ SRoad style) Ztto 10 speed 11-36t and that’s now gone.

Sunshine makes it, hard cogs in steel, large cogs in aluminium, i have 2. They're all around 225g and they cost 40-50usd. the alu cogs last. i have tried almost all sizes :)
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on April 08, 2024, 03:53:47 PM
Sunshine makes it, hard cogs in steel, large cogs in aluminium, i have 2. They're all around 225g and they cost 40-50usd. the alu cogs last. i have tried almost all sizes :)

I know those are still available, but I like the all-steel lightweight cassettes. Mainly because I spend more time in my low gears as opposed to my high gears. In fact that's part of the reason I still stay with Shimano 2x10 speed on my gravel bike with a mix-n-match of 11 speed components. The Shimano 11-36t 10 speed XT cassette is rock solid and Shimano stopped making them in 11 speed. The 105 11-36t 12 speed cassette is like 385g vs the 10 speed XT cassette at around 333g on my scale, and XT cassette is on the same level as Ultegra.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: nickobec on April 13, 2024, 07:04:11 AM
XOSS X2 Pro heart rate sensor

Bought after recommendation from Chris Miller on YouTube

Cost less than 30AUD shipped, last sale

It is a sealed unit with rechargeable battery, so no possible sweat ingress.

Smaller and lighter than my Garmin or Wahoo sensors.

been wearing it for a couple of weeks without issue, both running and riding, paired to Garmin watch and Wahoo headunit.

favourite feature it beeps when first connected or disconnected.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: AzureEssence on April 29, 2024, 08:14:32 AM
I need to make a more detailed update of my tier list but a couple updates

ezMTB 2022 STD bleed kit $12 - Absolutely incredible toolkit. Brass fittings for Shimano/SRAM/Hope/Magura brakes in a high quality little package.

Zrace Blade crankset with 32t chainring and BB $40 - Wow. The finishing on these cranks is immaculate. They claim 7075 aluminum which may even be true. They are perfectly CNC'd like Hope cranks and come with an aluminum crank arm fixing bolt. As per usual I wish they were unbranded, but the branding isn't too gaudy. I have to put these in the elite tier for AliExpress parts. I believe the crankset weighed 698g with chainring. I put them on my Klein urban MTB which is probably overkill (I could've just went with road cranks), but they look amazing with their gloss finish.

Senicx FM3 crankset $31 - I was impressed by the quality of these cranks are well. These look to be forged instead of CNC'd, and did not come with chainring or anything else. Also they came with a cheap plastic crank arm fixing bolt (18mm) which I replaced with a $1 Riderace aluminum one. These are matte and have a clean, understated aesthetic, once again the branding isn't too gaudy.

Mixed 5D carbon saddle $21 - Bought a backup one because the price vs quality is just too good.

Onirii IIIPro brakes $80 + Avid 180mm rotors $10 + Cooma Gold pads $4 - Just finished installing and bedding these in, need to test long term. First impressions: CNC machining is good but not perfect. The lever bodies look a bit cheap, but the levers themselves look awesome with the drilled out holes. The calipers look incredible aesthetically. The pads they shipped with were some mega cheap crappy resin, I tossed them and installed Cooma Gold metallics. Had some customer service issues with the Onirii official store but hopefully we can look past that if the brakes turn out good.

Zoom HB-910 $116 (with TRP 180mm rotors I had) - Just finished installing and bedding these in, need to test long term. Both lever body and caliper look absolutely stellar. The levers themselves look alright, but wish they were drilled. Power feels very strong. I am running the stock brake pads with look to be metallic or semi-metallic.

Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on May 02, 2024, 07:54:49 PM
I'm seriously addicted to picking up UNO lightweight stems. I've swapped over to -17 degree stems on both my road bikes!

Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: Serge_K on May 03, 2024, 10:13:49 AM
It looks a bit odd, why not use a flatter steerer top frame to stem interface thing and a stem with a more logical angle? Or the same stem if you can handle the drop.
Title: Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Post by: jonathanf2 on May 03, 2024, 11:45:39 AM
It looks a bit odd, why not use a flatter steerer top frame to stem interface thing and a stem with a more logical angle? Or the same stem if you can handle the drop.

I might slam it some more, but I haven't decided. I notice the -17° put me in a more snug cockpit position which I like for the downhill and also lowering my body position, but without stretching me out as much (like going with a longer stem).