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Re: Chinese SC/AM831 Group Buy While I do prefer BSA if given the option, there are a number of "thread together bb92" bottom brackets available.  I have three different brands, and all work well.  Wheels MFG was the original.  Solid and well built.  I replaced the bearings with enduro bearings at 4k miles.  I have an Origin 8 which is also well built, but I have far fewer miles on it.  Lastly, I have a cheap $17 ZTTO brand thread together BB currently installed in my short travel XC bike. I also had to use a 24>22mm adapter to run my sram crankset.  It all works fine, and its hard to argue with the price.  When the time comes, Ill swap out the bearings for better quality, but the thread together housing is what matters.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33050046038.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dKyE5c2

April 02, 2020, 02:14:34 PM
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Re: Chinese SC/AM831 Group Buy May be to avoid further confusion we should all stick to the geometry sizes given in the first page, and stop doing references to s,m,l,xl given that Haideli does not use them.
April 22, 2020, 03:15:02 AM
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Re: Stumpjumper clone I'd love to see this frame off a more reputable/common reseller. I've been out of the game too long to pick one of these up from a random reseller/aliexpress.


Edit: Also the frame doesn't have water bottle bolts. Hope that's not an oversight!

Double edit: Shock eye to eye is that of the lousy stumpjumper ST. Unless it's actually 210x50-55 or so, it's an ST.  If the numbers were less out to lunch, then I might be interested in a medium.

September 24, 2020, 02:06:21 PM
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Re: Stumpjumper clone I've plunged, risked it and ordered. I will let you all know when it arrives - saying shipping between Nov 10-15
November 12, 2020, 06:14:54 AM
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Re: LCFS947 - 160mm 4-bar 27+/29


November 13, 2020, 11:12:21 AM
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Re: Airwolf / YFM026 boost / santa cruz highball Yes there is an inlet on the head tube, there are 2 on each side.  I actually ran a full piece of cable housing to the rear derailleur and snuck it over the bb.
December 23, 2020, 04:54:30 PM
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Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831 Dear All:

Really thanks for your supporting of our frame FS-AM831 Enduro Full Suspension bike frame.
Now we have totally confirmed the production time, it would be bulk production on April, and 200 sets would be available in raw marerial around the middle of May.

And we got the bulk order price for you guys.
30 sets, USD540/set( item included frame, headset, BB, thru axle, clamp), not included custom fee, painting and shipping fee.
50 sets, USD499/set( item included frame, headset, BB, thru axle, clamp), not included custom fee, painting and shipping fee.

Now we want to collect the order, since some customer got the different color painting and size.
And the customers from different countries. the shipping way would be differece, we got the shipping, HKEMS, China Post, DHL, WXY( free custom fee)available.

For the painting fee is USD20 for one color(we got the color chart), and USD50 for the chameleon green/purple color, and if you got the customized decals, then please feel free to contact me for the best price.
Any question or help, feel free to let me know.

To collect the order, please feel free to contact me via email and now can be paid the deposit.
Aslo can be chat on wechat, +86 18475368733
email:   eddy@haidelibicycle.com

Waited for you good news.
Thanks
Eddy

March 20, 2021, 02:11:05 AM
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Re: FM1001 / FM1156 - 135mm frame Finish ;)

Parts:

Carbonda Fm1001 "M"
RS Lyrik Ultimate 140mm
RS Super Deluxe 185x55
RS Reverb AXS 150x30,9mm and Trickstuff seat clamp
Sram XX1 AXS
Magura Mt7 polish with  Mt5 HC1 levers and Dächle UL 203/180mm inkl titanscrews
Newmen Sl31,8 Handelbar/ Stem
Deathgrip Ultra Soft thin
CrankBrothers Mallet E Pedals
Dt Swiss XMC1200 30mm
Maxxis Assegai Maxxgrip Exo+ and Dissector Maxxterra EXO mit Taunus Insert mounted with 100ml milk


March 22, 2021, 09:23:00 AM
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Re: The shiney new AM831 Group Buy thread! Lol. I'm a shill now. You need to relax, buddy.

I read winnowsports was acknowledged on page 21 of the "Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831" thread. Upon re-reading it, out was zilcho saying that, not you. Still it's a different company, so maybe it will be different, maybe not.

Also I never saw your asking where I'm from. The last message I saw from you was confirming that the Reverse components angle spacer should help the problem. That message was at the start of a second page of PMs. I never saw your other reply until you mentioned it now and I looked back at the last message on the end of the first page.

My name is Rick and I'm from St. Louis, Missouri. You want any other info? I've got nothing to hide. Take off your tinfoil hat.

March 31, 2021, 07:24:47 AM
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Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
I appreciate the explanation but I think the ratio is off because 165X38 shock is 100 mm on most bikes so taking the trunnion in consideration 140 trunnion should be about 105 ,  the 142.5 should be about 112 and the 145 should be about 120.  Maybe the stroke changes that slightly but unless you're compressing the shock to get in the frame then the numbers are still skewed.  Not to mention that if it doesn't have capability to full compress the shock and bottom out then what's the point?

I'm not quite sure if I fully understand what you mean... But there seem to be some errors in your thinking. Please correct me if I'm wrong:

You say that "165x38 shock is 100mm on most bikes", do you mean that a frame with a 165x38 shock usually provides 100mm of travel? Well it may be, that many bikes with these shock dimensions have 100mm of travel. But the amount of travel that the shock stroke translates to, depends on the leverage ratio of the frame. And that cannot be "off", it is what it is. Every bike is different. That just depends on how the linkage is designed. Like some bikes with a 210x55 shock have 140mm of travel, others have 160mm.

The Ican here for example has an average leverage ratio of 2,5. That means that for every 1mm of shock compression, the rear wheel moves upwards by 2,5mm - on average. It's probably a progressive frame, so the leverage ratio will reduce throughout the travel.

Now for this, the only important number is the stroke length of the shock, which is the second number, like "38". The first number - 165 - is the eye to eye, so the overall length of the shock. That should usually not be messed with, since any changes will drastically affect the geometry of the bike. Also, it doesn't matter if its trunnion or standard mount. The eye to eye is what counts. In this bike, you should only run 165mm, trunnion or standard.

What the guys are talking about, is keeping the eye to eye length the same, but changing the stroke length of the shock. So when the standard shock would be fully compressed, a longer stroke shock still has some more to go, resulting in more travel. The limit of this is reached when the seat stays hit the seat tube. What Ben did, is go to this point of maximum compression and measure the remaining eye to eye distance, which is 115mm. A 165mm shock would need to be compressed by 50 mm to get to this point. But you need some safety room to avoid breaking the frame at the first bottom out, also because the bottom out bumpers of the shock still give way a little when it's compressed hard. That's why Ben suggested a 45mm stroke shock may work.

The rest is math. Let's say the leverage ratio is 2,5 at the end of the stroke (it's probably a little lower), then an additional 2,5 mm of shock stroke will give you 6,25mm more travel. Take that twice and you have your 112mm with a 45mm stroke instead of the standard 100mm with a 40mm stroke.

Sorry, a lot to read, I know... I hope I didn't misunderstand you, just thought this might help. Took me a while to get behind this linkage stuff too.

April 23, 2021, 06:10:02 PM
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