Hi all! There are a few “new” frames that have recently entered the market that take inspiration from the Aethos with a traditional round shapes focusing on lightweight. These also have the bonus of taking a regular round seatpost.

1. BigRock Road frame. More details here https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a21n57.1.0.0.57a8523cZcTH0G&id=722965987747&ns=1&abbucket=5#detail and on the 4th tab here: http://bigrock.cc/ also looks like it will be for sale on Panda Podium in the near future. Pretty nice image of their carbon clear finish here: http://bigrock.rjkf.top/2023-08-27-15-21-04.jpg?imageMogr2/thumbnail/1500x. I am very seriously considering this instead of the 35mm frame options I have found.

Might also be this "Outshone" frame on Alibaba: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2023-Lightest-Weight-650g-same-to_1600860750115.html, though the tire clearance specs are different. Seems to be ~700g depending on size and paint. Visually these look nice from the outside, and I would love to know if this really is the same frame.

Pros:

• Offers 2 different fork rakes across the size range (47mm and 44mm)
• T47 BB
• BigRock version is 32mm tire clearance, unclear if there is any difference in mold or just the specs being communicated differently
• Weight: 730g for a 54?
• At the least the Bigrock version is claimed to use a nice mix of m40j and t1000 carbon

Cons:

• BigRock version isn't cheap, the downtube branding is massive would love it without, though the bare carbon version looks lovely
• Other vendors aren't known and the brand (Outshone) is hard to find information on

2. Ican FL1. This one seems to only exist in renders for now. (11/10/23) added more information. Link: https://www.icanbikes.com/products/super-light-full-internal-road-disc-brake-frame

Pros:

• 32mm tire clearance
• Ican is a known seller who has invested in a global footprint
• 790g for a size 54
• Details in the render suggest well thought out FD routing for electronic groups and deeper head tube could be a nice visual design feature as well
• Video is up on their website and the frame looks good
• BB86 AND T47 options
• Listing EN, UCI and Zelder testing as certs. This is different, especially if the latter refers to third party testing being done in Europe

Cons:

• Would it be greedy to have wanted UDH?
• Only offers 44mm forks, so geometry of the size 52 and 49 are less than ideal; but larger sizes are great. fork length is 371mm

2. Onrii One. Covered in this thread: https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3832.0.html and including it here for completeness. Also known as the Pinaworks CFR 051 / GR051. Alibaba seller is here: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/New-Arrival-CRF51-NEW-49cm-52cm_1600949186802.html. Also sold on AliExpress.

Pros:

• Internal and External Routing available
• BSA BB

Cons:

• “Only” 28mm of tire clearance / Updated version seems to have 30mm
• Single rake at 47mm may make larger sizes ride a bit twitchy. Not a problem for little guys like me but worth a call out
• Not sure how the weight limit on the Onrii applies to other sellers
• Seems likely to be above 800g, unless you get the featherweight version

Hey all, I wanted to share a product I recently purchased. I have heard of these mounts and that they had potentially been whitelabeled under a different brand. It took a lot of searching to find these, and I ended up at the TorqueNiuJu Bike store on Taobao, a place i had heard mentioned on other forum. I dont know if thats true that others resell these mounts.

I cant yet vouch for the durability of the mount, but i don’t foresee any issues. What I can say is that these mounts are very, very impressive in terms of the machining. Not quite K Edge quality, as looking really carefully I found a spot where the CNC was either stopped to cool down of was repositioned before the pass was complete, but its a minor thing.

They are not cheap (~$25 or 188 RMB + International shipping if you arent in China) and can only be found on Taobao. However, for the quality of the machining these are a very good value.

I went through the trouble of purchasing it directly and using Taobao’s international shipping service, but using a forwarder like Superbuy is probably the way to go for most people, though I have never used that specific service.

Keep in mind these are stem specific. The one I bought is 24mm spacing to fit the Kalloy Uno. Its the Giant Type A option.

Gallery is here: https://imgur.com/a/5CcmhiS

Taobao link: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.317b2e8dWThZ1S&id=610261725473&_u=d20gcba5cefa0e

Hope this is useful for someone!