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Chinese 650B FS frame with modern geometry? Is there a Chinese frame that has modern geometry that could compete with something like a commencal clash? I was originally going to just buy a complete bike but the ones I'd be interested in I'd have to wait a very long time for, so now I'm looking to build something. I was looking to get the Commencal Clash frame and then build up from there, but I was curious if there was any full suspension chinese frames that maybe were similar in geometry to the newer stuff that I could start with instead? I know the iCan P9 and P1 are talked about a bit but it seemed they were a bit older design? I'm looking for something with full suspension and decent travel to build a well rounded bike for trails and stuff around Ohio. If I can spend less on the frame it gives me a lot more budget for suspension and what not. The Commencal Clash frame is 1399.
June 22, 2021, 09:38:25 PM
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Re: AM831 vs others??? To start with you should decide what trails you enjoy and what type of riding you want to focus on. I would not build a bike for downhill once or twice a year that you will otherwise ride on singletrack.  The three frames you listed all fit different categories, with a little overlap on the 936/909.

AM831: all mountain, 150mm travel, should be great on descents but still climb alright
FM936: 'down country', 120mm travel, aggressive cross country and light trail
FM909: modern cross country but still 100mm travel, likely fastest on singletrack

Personally I'm on the FM936 b/c the terrain here is relatively flat with occasional elevation and it works great for all of it.  I've ridden this bike in CO and UT, including the Whole Enchilada, and survived but those areas would be better with more travel.  If I lived in the mountains I would definitely consider the AM831.

August 21, 2021, 08:20:21 PM
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Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
Any updates? Shredder?

Got it :D, I still have some work to do on it so I've been riding only in the city for now (when it will be trail ready i will post some nice pics with with the trail view)

So far it feels absolutely great,
but I'm not a bike expert and it is my first full-sus, modern geo bike,
I pedal with the shock open and don't really notice it (maybe i just set it to be too firm (~25% sag))
even tho i set my handle bar way to high it climbs better than my smaller hardtail prob because the sit, feels more inwards
the sitting position feels comfortable (i did around 90Km so far) but that can change when i will adjust the handle bar height
the only downside is my tires rolling resistance (2.5 and 2.4 DHF/DHR) which is a drag in the city :P

November 03, 2021, 02:48:26 AM
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Re: 29er XC Hardtail - Boost - Modern Geometry
Anyone know of alternatives for the Trifox?

This is the closest I've found: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000686903353.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.28.68063cc60SRHWu
Geo chart is identical except for chainstay length and wheelbase being 9mm and 8mm longer. Haven't heard of the brand but there are a few other unknown sellers on Ali with it too.

November 06, 2021, 10:40:40 AM
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Re: AM831 competitors? Help knudge me over! http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3356.0.html

Welcome to join the groupbuy B order.

Eddy@haidelibicycle.com
Thanks
Eddy

November 07, 2021, 11:40:51 PM
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Re: Plz help wheel newb! How to pick? What to pick? Want carbon mtb 29er wheels! 1. If you are ordering wheels, and not just rims, they should be delivered assembled and ready to go.

2. My go to hub choice is the DT Swiss 350 with straight pull spokes and center lock disc mounts. They are pretty bomb proof, not too expensive, not too heavy. To use that cassette you just need to make sure you select an XD driver freehub.

3. Some of the wheel brands have done a better job of offering modern storefronts and shopping experiences. I have multiple sets from FarSports that have all been great. Others like LightBicycle, but their pricing has gradually increased to match their Western style of branding and marketing. There are also people who go with the random Ali wheels and seem to be fine with them.

I would also suggest an inner width of at least 30mm, ideal for wider tires and even becoming common in the XC range.

https://www.wheelsfar.com/
https://www.lightbicycle.com/

November 08, 2021, 08:56:37 AM
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Re: Plz help wheel newb! How to pick? What to pick? Want carbon mtb 29er wheels! +1 on all of the above. Personally, I would never buy from an AliExpress seller with a rating under 95%, and at least in business for a while. If something feels off, stay away! There are lots of good stores for wheels. I’ve just bought my second set of rims from speedsafe, for example. Elite Wheels seems good too.
November 08, 2021, 11:42:13 AM
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Re: AM831 competitors? Help knudge me over! I’m pretty sure that’s a typo and he really meant 230x57.5.

I’ve never heard of a 230 shock with less than 50mm stroke.

November 08, 2021, 05:02:42 PM
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Re: Plz help wheel newb! How to pick? What to pick? Want carbon mtb 29er wheels! All mountain is inline with the type of riding that the AM831 is meant for.

(A) is an aluminum rim. They are generally not built to be deep due to the different properties of aluminum vs carbon, but mostly down to weight (1980g for A vs 1320g for B). I have not looked at aluminum wheels in a while but $586 sounds high, although I just looked at FarSports and their prices have gone up a bit too.

Personally, I would go for carbon wheels. You've already invested in a nice frame, why weigh it down with heavy wheels? Plus I tend to ride each bike for a few years and the price difference isn't much when averaged across the number of rides/hours during that time.

November 08, 2021, 08:59:54 PM
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Re: Plz help wheel newb! How to pick? What to pick? Want carbon mtb 29er wheels! I think the 36x30 should be good, it has 30mm internal. I'm running 2.6 front and 2.4 rear with 30mm internal and neither is stretched wide or lightbulb shaped so you should be good with 2.5 and 2.3. I think 35mm+ internal is getting into Enduro territory.

I chose centerlock for the versatility, you can run any rotor and don't really compromise weight with an adapter vs 6 bolt hub.

For sure XD and Boost spacing.

November 08, 2021, 10:08:34 PM
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