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Other Resources => Component Deals & Selection => Topic started by: jonathanf2 on October 30, 2022, 04:09:13 PM
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I just found these on Ali:
Updated the link with better pricing:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804682104591.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804682104591.html)
The claimed weight is 38g, which is a tad more than RideNow TPU tubes. From the looks of it, the Cyclami TPU tubes utilize what appears to be a threaded alloy valve stem which should be more durable. RideNow TPU tubes utilize plastic valve stems and I've had issues with air leakage (I received a replacement). Anyways good to see more options coming out of AliExpress.
If they perform as well as the RideNow tubes, these should be quite good. Sometimes I feel more cutting edge than my cycling buddies who have no clue there's a whole other world of cycling options available! :D
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Looks intersting
do you have any experience with the tubolito or ride now tubes?
how do they perform against puncture?
do they hold pressure well ?
i've read mixed feedback on various forum so i havent pulled the trigger yet....
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Looks intersting
do you have any experience with the tubolito or ride now tubes?
how do they perform against puncture?
do they hold pressure well ?
i've read mixed feedback on various forum so i havent pulled the trigger yet....
I'm running 25c tires with the RideNow TPU tubes and pump them up to around 90-100 psi. They hold air far better than latex tubes, though I still pump them before every ride just to have optimal pressure. Puncture resistance has been quite good so far. I even had a sidewall tire cut and you could see the tube inside the tire, but no puncture. I don't have any experience with Tubolitos.
Honestly I was planning to go all tubeless since I'm already tubeless on my gravel bike, but these RideNow TPU tubes have a significant weight advantage with lightweight clincher tires. I also feel the ride quality is quite decent.
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Thanks for the tip! I was hesitant about the RideNow TPU tubes exactly because of the plastic valve and because of multiple customer reviews complaining about leakage.
These look better so i ordered a pair. I'm currently running Vittoria latex inner tubes at 80g a piece. It'll be interesting how these fare against them particularly when it comes to ride feel.
At the very least, these will be great to take with me in my saddle bag should I puncture on the road.
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I've had 3 ride now tubes with leaks I can't find and gave up til snowed in day.
I've had 3 tubes with patches and still use them. They are Not hard to fix with repair kit.
I've had 1 puncture from glass. 2 other tubes were tiny holes I had to find with a bucket of water. I haven't had pinch flats yet.
I just bought these new green tubes. I like to see the threaded stems. Haven't liked the glued on valves to plastic stems from ridenow. Will see how they handle. I don't see a patch kit yet. I hope the kit from ridenow will glue to the green tubes if they leak.
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I'm running 25c tires with the RideNow TPU tubes and pump them up to around 90-100 psi. They hold air far better than latex tubes, though I still pump them before every ride just to have optimal pressure. Puncture resistance has been quite good so far. I even had a sidewall tire cut and you could see the tube inside the tire, but no puncture. I don't have any experience with Tubolitos.
Honestly I was planning to go all tubeless since I'm already tubeless on my gravel bike, but these RideNow TPU tubes have a significant weight advantage with lightweight clincher tires. I also feel the ride quality is quite decent.
can I ask why you run these over latex tubes, given you pump up every ride, as latex has lower rolling resistance. is it weight? I'm thinking of buying a couple to carry as a puncture kit because they re so tiny, but i've been very pleased with latex. My stats show i'm faster with GP500 + latex, all else equal.
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can I ask why you run these over latex tubes, given you pump up every ride, as latex has lower rolling resistance. is it weight? I'm thinking of buying a couple to carry as a puncture kit because they re so tiny, but i've been very pleased with latex. My stats show i'm faster with GP500 + latex, all else equal.
I still pump my tubeless tires before every ride as well. Also I focus mainly on climbing, so I'm more concerned about weight. Also as a spare, you can pack 2 TPU tubes and they still weigh less than butyl or latex tubes.
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I've had 3 ride now tubes with leaks I can't find and gave up til snowed in day.
I've had 3 tubes with patches and still use them. They are Not hard to fix with repair kit.
I've had 1 puncture from glass. 2 other tubes were tiny holes I had to find with a bucket of water. I haven't had pinch flats yet.
I just bought these new green tubes. I like to see the threaded stems. Haven't liked the glued on valves to plastic stems from ridenow. Will see how they handle. I don't see a patch kit yet. I hope the kit from ridenow will glue to the green tubes if they leak.
In the link that the OP posted, there's also the option to buy the green TPU tubes with a patch kit. I ordered a pair in including patches.
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Looks intersting
do you have any experience with the tubolito or ride now tubes?
how do they perform against puncture?
do they hold pressure well ?
i've read mixed feedback on various forum so i havent pulled the trigger yet....
I've been ridding two RideNow tubes on the road now and compared to a Tubolito I also started riding recently, the RideNow tubes don't have as good puncture protection (I've patched the two RideNow tubes and one Tubolito many times now).
You can also feel that the RideNow tubes are thinner than the Tubolito ones which makes them lighter. Bought a grave RideNow tube as well which I've been carrying as a spare. Love how light weight the RideNow tubes are and the price compared to other TPU mainstream brand tubes.
Curious to try this new brand.
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I received my Cyclami order of 4 tubes. I wasn't planning to install a tube right away, but the same day they arrived I also ran over a big rusty nail! So it gave me an excuse to try one out. Anyways first impressions is that it's a bit more sturdier built than the RideNow TPU tubes. The rubber base attaching the valve to the tube is a much winder oval shape, the RideNow tube rubber base is circular and smaller. Also on my 50mm depth wheels, the presta valve head barely peeks out at a length of 60mm, RideNow valve are 65mm. My major disappointment is that the presta valve is non-removable! So if you were to damage the nozzle, the whole tube is a goner! Not sure if it's a weight issue or what since they're using an alloy valve. Besides that issue, the overall tube looks more robust. I'll report back on ride performance, but I'm guessing it'll be similar to the RideNow tube.
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Thanks for update. Have some coming too. It sucks the valve isn't removable but I really wouldn't try it with the ridenow plastic a stems. At least it's one less failure point. Hope the oval area helps stop leaks and prevents the stem from tearing off. Really don't plan to use these til late spring time.
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Thanks for update. Have some coming too. It sucks the valve isn't removable but I really wouldn't try it with the ridenow plastic a stems. At least it's one less failure point. Hope the oval area helps stop leaks and prevents the stem from tearing off. Really don't plan to use these til late spring time.
Generally I prefer tubeless, but for my lightweight climbing wheels, I prefer using TPU tubes with clinchers. It's a bit of trade off regarding the non-removable valve. On the RideNow tubes, it's actually possible to over thread and damage the plastic stem. The Cyclami tubes opt for robustness, but without the option to remove the core. The problem though with the Cyclami besides breaking the nozzle is that you can't use an extender valve if you plan to run anything deeper than 50mm depth wheels. At 50mm depth you're at the very limit.
If I had to pick between the two brands, the Cyclami tubes appear to be the better value. It fixes the flaws of the RideNow tubes, though with caveats.
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You can still use extenders on these tubes. You just leave the valve unscrewed put the correct extender on and pump up. Having an extender on this way makes it harder to get exact psi. What happens is the pressure while pumping opens the valve then closes after pumping. This will even work with minipumps.
I take off my extender after inflating and tighten the valve because the stem barely sits outside my rims. If the stem is hidden you have to leave extender on and valve unscrewed.
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Generally I prefer tubeless, but for my lightweight climbing wheels, I prefer using TPU tubes with clinchers...
That is intriguing, climbing means descending too... is it to save weight or is it something else ?
I would never go back to rim brakes for high speed descents in the mountains.
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That is intriguing, climbing means descending too... is it to save weight or is it something else ?
I would never go back to rim brakes for high speed descents in the mountains.
I ride disc brakes on all my bikes in order to keep wheel swapping simple. TPU tubes + lightweight clinchers still weigh less than a lightweight tubeless setup and I just like the feel of uphill acceleration. My other bike build I'm running tubeless road slicks and my gravel bike is tubeless as well, so I definitely lean tubeless for most everything else.
BTW - It's still recommended that you setup your wheels with tubeless tape with these TPU tubes. Which I don't mind, because the wheels will be ready if I do swap to tubeless tires.
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BTW - It's still recommended that you setup your wheels with tubeless tape with these TPU tubes. Which I don't mind, because the wheels will be ready if I do swap to tubeless tires.
It's actually quite astonishing how many folks do not know that you need to tape your rims even if you are running tubes.
I sell the RideNow tubes, and they are OK. They are fine, but not blown away. You really have to be careful setting them up, or you risk a slow leak puncture before you get out the door (I've screwed this up twice on a 19mm internal width wheels).
As far as I can tell (and I could be wrong), the patch kit is basically the typical rubber cement with TPU patches. The patch material being the big difference. Some people have claimed success with the Park Tool Super Patch - I have found they don't stick well enough. Good enough to get you home though...
They are super light, and great to have in roadside kits whether you run tubes or run tubeless.
My personal preference is now tubeless, as I see no real advantage to tubes anymore other initial set-up and as a roadside repair option.
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I have bought a set of the Cyclami TPU tubes and both seem to leak slowly. I'll investigate further to see if there's a puncture somewhere or if it's a manufacturing issue - at the valves for instance.
Anyway, I've also ordered a set of Ridenow inner tubes for my other bike and had no such issues. I set up the wheels and they hold air seemingly forever.
I dunno if it's a matter of luck with these cheap TPU tubes from China. But so far, I can't say I'm impressed with the Cyclami ones.
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I have bought a set of the Cyclami TPU tubes and both seem to leak slowly. I'll investigate further to see if there's a puncture somewhere or if it's a manufacturing issue - at the valves for instance.
Anyway, I've also ordered a set of Ridenow inner tubes for my other bike and had no such issues. I set up the wheels and they hold air seemingly forever.
I dunno if it's a matter of luck with these cheap TPU tubes from China. But so far, I can't say I'm impressed with the Cyclami ones.
Interesting, I am having the same with RideNow tubes: slowly leaking. Did not investigate, yet. Also have a pair of Cyclami but no chance to test, winter season here in Central Europe...
Should we consider a poll how many users experience slow leakage on TPU types (and manufacturer)?
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I have a pair of Cyclami tubes. The one on the front I screwed up while installing but using the patch I was able to fix the puncture. Now it leaks. My first thought was faulty repair but it does not seem to be leaking, nor do any bubbles form up at the valve. In approximately 2 days the tire goes flat without riding. I rode it like that for about 100 miles but have replaced that tube with Conti. I still can't figure out from where it is leaking. The other one is okay - holds the air for 1 week.
I am not a weight weeny as such so I am mostly going to keep away from these and just stick to good ol' rubber tubes. These feel really delicate and if you have hard to put on tires like I have, high chances the tube will be damaged in the process.
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Same here. The rear one goes flat after about two days or so. I pulled it out and tried to find any leakage under water but I was unable to. No idea where the air is coming out. So that’s frustrating. I think I’ll just put my latex tubes back in.
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The Cyclami TPU tubes are crap in my opinion. They are currently running some sales on RideNow TPU tubes and I can confirm they've done some silent upgrades, enough so that I now recommend them as being the better option. It appears the screw-in presta valve appears more secure and the plastic valve tube also seems to be a firmer plastic. They've switched to plastic valve caps (originally were alloy) and also come with a decal sticker that goes over the valve.
On a side note, I recommend using a schrader to presta valve adapter when pumping the tubes. The plastic valve core while sturdy, can be prone to breakage if not careful. I do this now when pumping. The one perk over latex is that they don't lose air overnight. Latex tubes have to be constantly pumped before every ride.
This seller sent my RideNow tubes in about a week to the US:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804954468515.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804954468515.html)
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This seller sent my RideNow tubes in about a week to the US:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804954468515.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804954468515.html)
I think California has the advantage because all my packages reach CA in about a week anyway but then vanish for a week before appearing in WA. From then it takes 2 more days to my doorstep.
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Having ridden Chinese TPU tubes now for a bit: Is it just me or do they feel harsher? I’m running the same wheels and the same Vittoria Corsa cotton clinchers. Previously I’ve had Vittoria latex inner tubes. But I can’t help but feel that at the same pressure these just feel harsher. I found myself lowering pressure to I increase comfort. I didn’t really have to do that before.
I might just go back and forth between these. Because any weight saving to me is negligible of I don’t like the ride feel.
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Two of my RideNow tubes(pink colored) leak air from the valve base. Annoying enough they don't leak while testing with low pressure, the leak starts around 30 psi mark so basically they never go flat but settle at about 25-30 mark down from 80. I can hear the air hissing at the valve hole on the wheel. Anyone had this happen? Don't think I can fix it. When I take it out I don't even see where exactly it's leaking. Both have just 150 miles on them.
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so, first issues with the RideNows, been using it for around 2 months and today the front tyre simply blewout, luckily I was standing still otherwise could be bad... now I'm trying to figure out what happened
it was a route with many descents (1km max) and I have rim brakes, but I didn't brake to the limit and also the blowout was like 5min after the last down hill in the flat part of the route
we're coming out of winter here, and today temp started at 10C (when I set the front to 90psi, which I usually do) but at the time of blowout it was like 25C, so for sure pressure was higher but it was still a long way to the limit. Tyre max is 110psi (Chalenge Elite clincher)
I'm willing to continue riding TPU, I like a lot the rolling sensation of them and the space saved. I've got the ThinkRiders installed now, and will try to run lower pressures to see what happens.
But not gonna lie this got me concerned, if it blewout when I was riding it could get ugly.. so better to try to understand what happened and how to avoid it (or reduce the risk, at least)
Two of my RideNow tubes(pink colored) leak air from the valve base. Annoying enough they don't leak while testing with low pressure, the leak starts around 30 psi mark so basically they never go flat but settle at about 25-30 mark down from 80. I can hear the air hissing at the valve hole on the wheel. Anyone had this happen? Don't think I can fix it. When I take it out I don't even see where exactly it's leaking. Both have just 150 miles on them.
if the leak starts with 30psi then I imagine testing the tube alone won't work (like submerging in water to see the leak)
so I'd try using soap foam (with a sponge) or even spit can sometimes work to reveal the leak.
If it's indeed the base of the valve, then it's defective, I'd contact the seller or ridenow to see about a replacement. But maybe if you add some superglue or something similar, that could penetrate the space between the valve and the valve tube and seal it