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Re: FM1001 / FM1156 - 135mm frame Very nice build @Flo7!

I am also really interested in this frame, but sizing is difficult based on the geo-chart/drawing. It seems the drawing is an M-size. Headtube angle seems to be around 66 degrees based on drawing and pictures of finished builds.
I am running a mullet now and this frame should also be good for that kind of setup. Seat post angle is so steep and bb so high that the lower  back wheel axle would not be a problem. That would give a little bit slacker headtube angle and shorter reach.

Funny thing with the size is that XL size is almost identical to my current bike and I am not a big guy! I am 179cm tall and 83cm inner leg and usually ride M or L sizes.

But I would rather have a long bike with short stem then vice versa.

If the ones who already have this built up could comment on size and how it rides it would be much appreciated!
March 23, 2021, 04:55:12 AM 		2
Re: FM1001 / FM1156 - 135mm frame These frames are small. I also believe that size M is too small for you. I have ordered this as well and went with L.  I am 179cm, inseam 83cm and decided between L and XL. Since the seat tube is quiet steep the top tube becomes short. So with your preferred reach the seating position will be very small.

My current size L bike is in between this L and XL and that is spot on.

I hope this helps your decision!

Quote from: bossman302 on August 23, 2021, 07:11:39 PM
I'm not locked in yet so I can change it. Can you tell me why you think this would be to small?

If I go off what bike manufacture suggest they put me at a large based on my height. My concern with getting a larger size is I don't want to feel stretched out or hunched over the front of the bike while in the seat position. I prefer to me more in a neutral position. While my current bike is a one size fits most it would fall on the large size. Event though I've slackened the front by 2 degrees, shorter stem, and installed bars with more back sweep I still feel hunched over and baring to much weight on my hands. I know guys my height prefer the medium over the large. I also know guys that are way taller than me that fall into the XL but prefer the large.

Like everyone we want to make sure we get the right size so we don't get stuck with something that doesn't fit and not enjoyably to ride. I've been researching sizing the best I can so if I'm missing something please let me know. I really want to make sure I get the correct size that fits me best.
August 25, 2021, 05:32:41 AM 		3
Re: FM1001 / FM1156 - 135mm frame
Quote from: Neb on August 31, 2021, 11:49:10 AM

- How much rear tyre clearance is there? (I often ride in mud!)


Well with 27.5” wheel and 2.6” rocket ron on 30mm id rim this is what it looks like. Plenty of clearance! Seems with 29” wheel side clearance would be similar.
September 04, 2021, 05:04:28 AM 		1
Re: FM1001 / FM1156 - 135mm frame Setup as a mullet, I got these angles. Not exact of course but correspond more or less to the geo chart.
October 05, 2021, 12:11:00 AM 		4
Re: FM1001 / FM1156 - 135mm frame
Quote from: FlaMtnBkr on October 21, 2021, 01:17:48 AM
For anyone that is riding this frame, does there feel like much flex or does it feel stiff?

Also, is there much pedal bob? Can you run the shock open or do you ever feel the need to flip lever to medium/pedal position, assuming it's there?

Not much flex at all. There is some pedal bob but not so much, mostly when standing. I probably would use the lockout on transfers, but since the shock is upside down it is hard to reach and the bike is efficient enough anyway. Having the shock upside down is a really stupid idea, no benefits, hard to reach lockout and rebound adjustments are hard to do depending on the shock used.
October 22, 2021, 08:30:25 AM 		1
Re: FM1001 / FM1156 - 135mm frame BB height is on the low side, at least for riding in rocky terrain. It is ok, but not perfect. I will probably switch to full 29” at some point. I use 170mm cranks.
November 30, 2021, 03:02:39 PM 		1
Re: FM1001 / FM1156 - 135mm frame So i have now over half a year on this frame and I am pleased so far.

 It was meant for trail riding and for this purpose it works well. Actually it is better on the downhills then I expected, but that can also be because I run it mullet so it is slacker and lower. At some point I will switch to 29” in the back because I would like the steeper seattube. Now I run the saddle slammed forward. I really see no negatives with steep seattube.

People have already pointed out the hassle to run the cables in the frame. I also noticed running them front to back seems to work best. Another thing is the rubber grommets, they are very tight and with both the brake and gear cable in the same grommet I never got it seated properly so now I have lost it.

The bolts need tightening regularly, but that is normal. The upper shock bolt is just crap quality, need to replace that one soon.

The seatstays gather water, when riding in the wet or washing the bike, there is always water in there. Turning the bike upside down empties it.

Sizing for me is good, L size and I am 179cm with 84cm inseam. Running 50mm stem, I tried a 35mm stem and that was nice going down but felt cramped while seated. I think I could run the XL but not the M, depends of course on the kind of riding one is doing.

Overall a good frame with modern geometry and suspension that works well.

March 21, 2022, 01:53:35 AM 		7
Re: FM1001 / FM1156 - 135mm frame
Quote from: FullCarbonAlchemist on March 21, 2022, 02:29:18 AM
Do you notice any problems with the rubber grommets removed? Dirt getting in the openings?

I’m hoping to get the ones on my 1002 seated better and make them stay put but if I can’t, I’ve been wondering what it’s like to ride the bike without them long term.

Well I just recently lost it, but didn’t notice anything yet.
March 22, 2022, 01:03:00 AM 		1
Re: FM1001 / FM1156 - 135mm frame
Quote from: G161 on March 24, 2022, 01:44:09 AM
I'm unsure if I should buy a Large or Medium frame. I'm 180cm tall with an 84cm Inseam, the size chart would lean towards a Large with a reach of 472 but I've been reading the sizing guide from Lee McCormack (LeeLikesBikes) and that suggests I get a Medium at 450 reach.

My current bike Nukeproof Scout Large has a reach of 450 (466 Sagged) but with a 35mm stem the front keeps lifting on steep climbs and it feels a little cramped, but when I had a longer stem on the bike I suffered from cyclist palsy and my fingers went numb. So do I need something longer or shorter... What do you guys think?

Also, question 2. What is the BB height on this bike? I'm considering building it as a 27.5 initially to save a buck and I'll buy a new fork and wheelset later on. But if the BB is too low that won't work.

What are everyone's thoughts?
Your Scout has 73 degree seattube so you are sitting on the rear axle while climbing, that is why the front wheel is lifting. This frame is completely different.

Sizing based only on reach is strange on a frame that most people ride sitting most of the time. The XL doesnt even have as much effective toptube as your Scout has. So on an M size you would feel very cramped while sitting, unless you use a really long stem. The difference is over 60mm!!

27.5” inch wheels will give you a low bottom bracket but should be rideable, at least with short cranks. My mullet setup has a 332mm bb static and 170mm cranks. Your would be at least 10mm lower.

But all this is dependent on riding style, terrain and preference so there is no right or wrong answer.
March 24, 2022, 04:26:06 AM 		1
Re: FM1001 / FM1156 - 135mm frame
Quote from: Neb on July 22, 2022, 03:03:53 PM
Any thoughts about a 185x55 shock vs a 185x50mm shock? I think it's 120mm vs 135mm rear travel. I'm currently enjoying the bike with 120mm rear suspension but I can't help thinking if I'd prefer 135mm...

Well like I have said before, it depends what you are using the bike for. I believe the suspension on this frame is so good that you don’t loose much effectiveness with 135mm travel, so for trail riding I like 135mm travel. But if you mainly ride very easy and smooth trail there is no need for more then 120mm. Then again if 120mm is enough I would go with a lighter frame like the Carbonda fm936.

Also with 135mm you can even use 130-150mm fork, but with 120mm rear travel maybe 130-140mm would be better.
July 24, 2022, 02:09:03 PM 		2