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Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil? Captain's Log #7

Good news is my replacement bottom bracket arrived two days early, so I was able to properly install the crank/drivetrain and finish the build. The bad news is it's 90 degree here in Chicago, with rainfall in the area. I went for a quick test drive to make sure everything was in working order before the rain hit.

Weight without pedals/cages/mount/power meter: 7.6kg
I have a 1x aero chainring on order from Ali Express which will easily bring the weight down to 7.4kg once I remove the front derailleur and battery. Still need to add clearcoat  ;D

Wheels and tires: These new Magene EXAR Ultra wheels have a 23mm internal width. My 28c GP5000s measure closer to 29-30c when mounted. I typically run 76-78 PSI, but with these wheels I'm running 73-75 PSI.

Ride feel: Thank goodness I can run lower air pressure on these wheels, because the ride is exactly how I expected - STIFF
As stiff as my Dengfu R12, far stiffer than my VeloBuild 168, and it feels "racier" than my new Yoeleo R12. With that said, the frame does not exactly deal with bad pavement gracefully. I probably would not run 25c tires on it. Honestly it ride's like a tuner car from the 90s versus a modern era sport's car.

I'm hoping I can get in a proper ride in the morning, but I leave in the afternoon.
July 05, 2023, 04:34:11 PM 		1
Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
Quote from: elmtree on July 13, 2023, 07:12:08 PM
@patliean does this frame work with fsa acr stems or other options? I want narrower bars than tantan offers

The frame uses a standard 1.5 bearing upper and lower. FSA/ACR should not be an issue.

I would like to mention Tan Tan sent me an email earlier today saying they seen and appreciated my recent x38 overview video. They want to "work with me" and offer up some sort of discount/affiliate code. Full disclosure I did purchase the frameset with my own money without mentioning to Tan Tan of my channel, because I just think the frame is kinda unique.

Will keep you posted.
July 14, 2023, 12:19:50 AM 		1
Re: Please help, my parcel is lost Ah, that's great! enjoy!
July 17, 2023, 09:15:40 AM 		1
Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame This trend of one-bike-to-rule-them-all SL7 androdioecy needs to stop LoL.

I understand it both from a pragmatic and functional perspective. However, it's not as exciting anymore.

Uniformity is turning into conformity.
 
July 17, 2023, 12:53:39 PM 		1
Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
Quote from: abdbeg on July 19, 2023, 07:38:10 AM
Will it fit to the frame or should i buy another one, also I'm very confused about tool, which one should i buy? there's just million variation even for T47 16 tooth.

Ceccotti provided that BB because it's a T47 for Shimano 24 Hollowtech cranks. The frame should be T47 unless you ordered otherwise. If you're are planning to use Shimano cranks that's the one you need.

You will need a specific T47 tool different than BSA or BB386 16 notch BBs. The good news is All T47 bottom bracket tools use the same size 16-notch, with a major diameter (outside of notches) of 52-54 mm
July 19, 2023, 08:18:50 AM 		1
Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil? That is a good looking bike. Kind of bummed that it doesn't come into its own until ~23-24 MPH though...
July 21, 2023, 10:57:55 AM 		1
Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
Quote from: abdbeg on July 21, 2023, 11:26:12 AM
My ideas for the upcoming bild:

1) 3D print special extender for the fork, i don't know why, but i like thick forks so much, so i want to extend it a little bit, like this:

2) Print storage box (like BMC), aero bottle and saddle cover underneath

I don't know if i will be able to make it look good, but we will see.

Very cool ideas. Just ordered the frame. A storage box would be the perfect excuse to finally get a 3D printer.
July 21, 2023, 01:19:37 PM 		1
Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil? Thanks for the review! I'm curious what you meant by it not being refined. Just kinda loose? Doesn't go where you expect?
August 14, 2023, 03:27:18 PM 		1
Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil? 11:00 mark onward - One of the most popular cycling podcast shows Chris Miller/Jesse Coyle shout me out and discusses my TanTan x38 review. They offer up some really good perspective. And honestly their perspective on the x38 might actually be more "reasonable" than mine. Super flattered to see the China Forums being represented.

YouTube Title: Are INEOS Too Soft on Pidcock & We Want a UCI Masters World Champs | The NERO Show Ep. 46
August 17, 2023, 11:58:06 AM 		1
Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
Quote from: abdbeg on August 17, 2023, 12:35:22 PM
Hey patliean1,. sorry for too much question, but can you help me understand, I'm really value your opinion, but it's a little bit mystery for me because of language barrier, lack of cycling experience and etc

In the first review you said that x38 is stiff as Dengfu, but in the recent you said that it's not as stiff as Dengfu, but it really shows itself at higher speeds, so I'm confused. So as I understand, do you mean that frame is stiff enough to not loose too much watts while pedaling, but it's not overall suitable for race... Or?

There are some discrepancies/conflicts in what I've said about the frame in the past month. It's one of the reasons the YouTuber "Peak Torque" suggested I be more thorough in my testing before offering up opinions. Or at least be more careful with first impression videos.

A frame does not have to be super stiff to be fast. It's important when sprinting, accelerating, climbing. Not when you are at speed. This is where the Dengfu R12 is better. Keep mind that these differences are only noticeable when pushing the bike to it's limits. Not when you are riding at 20mph/32kph. To be clear, we are talking about very small differences here. So yes the TanTan is stiff, but just not as stiff as the Dengfu.

How a frame handles bad pavement is only really important above 25mph/40kph. The TanTan does not behave as well. Less control and handling when the road is bumpy. It's more bumpy despite not being as stiff as the Dengfu.

Keep in mind that you already have the frame. At this point what I say, good or bad, doesn't really matter if you yourself are enjoying your bike.  8)
August 17, 2023, 01:33:01 PM 		1