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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: Sack87 on September 18, 2019, 05:45:05 PM

Title: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on September 18, 2019, 05:45:05 PM
Been lurking on here for a while deciding whether to take the plunge and buy a 160/150mm travel charbon enduro.
After research online, finding out about Evolve Bikes in Canada and YEEPYEEP putting me onto to Jordan Boostmeister I was sold.

Bought a frame and shock from ICAN for $1500AUD to my door and spec'd it up to what I wanted. The original plan was to use all the bits off my Specialized Enduro but I decided I had had enough of paying "SRAM tax" for parts.

Specs of the build:

ICAN P9 frame unpainted
Rockshox 160mm Lyric RC2 with debonair @51mm offset (converted my Yari to new Lyrik)
Rockshox 210x55mm Super Deluxe Shock
Box One Extra Wide derailleur
Box One Shifter
Raceface Aeffect 24mm cinch crank with 165mm arms
Raceface 30 tooth cinch chainring
Shimano Hollowtech 68mm BSA BB
Novatec boost hubs with Shimano driver
Raceworks 11-50 tooth cassette (China)
Magura MT5 brakes
Oneup 150mm dropper post and remote
Deity 35mm stem
Deity 800mm bars
DT Swiss EX511 rear wheel
Roval Control front wheel (temporary until EX511 hoops are back in stock)
Custom 3D printed downtube bash guard (will be available for purchase soon if enough interest)

Only been on one ride but this thing absolutely rips. Plush yet playful and has minimal pedal bob. Very responsive on direction change but my only gripe is the BB is too low and I pedal strike a fair bit.
Title: Re: ICAN P9 ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on September 18, 2019, 05:50:09 PM
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Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: YEEPYEEP on October 04, 2019, 01:22:55 AM
Sick build!!!! keep us posted with the 3d printed bottom bracket protector  :)
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Denis on October 04, 2019, 04:43:21 AM
Assegai on rear wheel, while Hans Dampf on front... hmm
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: BlackTrails on October 09, 2019, 03:10:24 PM
Nice looking bike, and may fall in my budget.  What was the final weight?
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: ReverendRockRazor on October 10, 2019, 03:28:48 AM
Assegai on rear wheel, while Hans Dampf on front... hmm
Lol ya that's backwards.
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on October 10, 2019, 05:14:35 PM
Assegai on rear wheel, while Hans Dampf on front... hmm
Lol ya that's backwards.

I was running two Hans and I couldn't be bothered taking the Hans off the front when the rear tyre ran out of life. I'm running Assegai front and rear now.
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on October 10, 2019, 05:16:25 PM
Nice looking bike, and may fall in my budget.  What was the final weight?

15.4kg which is about 2kg heavier than what I anticipated. It's all in the wheelset though so carbon hoops could pull that down a bit
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: ChinaCruz on October 25, 2019, 06:59:41 AM
Why take down the pics?
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sitar_Ned on October 25, 2019, 08:57:30 AM
Very nice build, Sack. Something along the lines of what I would build if I were to do so currently.

also... nice grass!
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Icyseanfitz on June 29, 2020, 09:20:22 AM
Hey sack any feedback on how the p9 has held up? thinking of building one up myself.
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: BoomerE36 on September 15, 2020, 03:20:28 PM
Mind sharing how much (approximately) the entire build cost? Thanks!
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Beaumont88 on March 14, 2021, 04:32:54 PM
For the rockshox rear shock what size bushes did you order to fit it
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on June 16, 2021, 12:33:36 AM
Mind sharing how much (approximately) the entire build cost? Thanks!
$3200AUD all up. Would have been closer to $4500 if I didn't resume the fork or rims
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on June 16, 2021, 12:34:35 AM
For the rockshox rear shock what size bushes did you order to fit it
No idea, I bought the shock with the bike through them
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on June 16, 2021, 12:38:51 AM
Almost 2 years have passed since building this up and it's been bulletproof. Many a huge crash and it's only got a few small scars.
Finished 15th then 16th overall in elite class for our state enduro series the last 2 years.

And a pic incase anybody is wondering how strong it is.
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: afri123 on August 29, 2021, 03:52:26 PM
Custom 3D printed downtube bash guard (will be available for purchase soon if enough interest

I'd be interested, sounds great! Would you be willing to share your files in case you're not going to print for others?
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on September 13, 2021, 07:51:43 AM
Gave my bike a bit of an update 2 years on.

Repainted in Grey with black rear end and forks
Added a chain guide with tensioner as the chain was slapping on the swing arm
Swapped out the Super Deluxe for a Marzocchi Bomber coil
Put a 170mm airshaft in the forks, up from 160mm
Ordered custom Lyrik decals then got my mate to design me up some new ones to match.

Now for a PSA. Check your lower swing arms as they may be cracked. Mine looked to be cracked at the thinnest points inside and outside. ICAN are sending me one for free luckily.
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on September 13, 2021, 08:04:57 AM
I'd be interested, sounds great! Would you be willing to share your files in case you're not going to print for others?

Here you go. Print in TPU at 30% infill

Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Icyseanfitz on September 13, 2021, 04:07:09 PM
Chainstays cracked yeah?
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on September 13, 2021, 05:26:07 PM
Chainstays cracked yeah?
Can't be 100% sure, it may have been the top layer of epoxy separating at the thinnest points.
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on May 29, 2022, 05:12:23 AM
Been a while but here's an update on the bike.
- I finished 11th in elite last year for our Enduro Series, just missed out on a top 10 due to a mechanical on the last round.
- Snapped the top tube clean in half due to flat landing from 3m up on a blind jump. (I don't think any carbon bike would have survived)
- Bought another frame from ICAN which was easy as and still beat on it hard every ride
- Swapped to a Marzocchi Bomber Z1 coil fork yesterday and it's like it was made for this bike.

So it's a full coil bike now and the suppleness is amazing yet it still takes the big hits rarely bottoming out.
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: endo.alley on May 29, 2022, 05:43:23 PM
My opinion is get yourself a Slack-R headset slacker to get the front end down to about 65 degree head angle. I put one on my P9 and it was a great game changer on this bike.
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on May 29, 2022, 05:50:54 PM
My opinion is get yourself a Slack-R headset slacker to get the front end down to about 65 degree head angle. I put one on my P9 and it was a great game changer on this bike.

That's the plan. Going from a 51mm offset to a 44mm offset fork has made the front end a bit twitchy.
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Icyseanfitz on May 30, 2022, 02:02:24 AM
Might be interested in a slack-r myself to bring my seat angle forward a bit as I've a 180fork on my p9. Which version did ye buy? Is42/is52
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on May 31, 2022, 05:31:44 AM
Might be interested in a slack-r myself to bring my seat angle forward a bit as I've a 180fork on my p9. Which version did ye buy? Is42/is52
IS42 then whatever head stem length is on your size frame
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Icyseanfitz on May 31, 2022, 07:38:50 AM
IS42 then whatever head stem length is on your size frame

Is42 top but what about bottom?
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Sack87 on June 01, 2022, 11:18:29 PM
Is42 top but what about bottom?
https://9point8.ca/collections/slack-r-kits/products/foxtrot-slack-r-kit?variant=41077932720279
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Icyseanfitz on June 02, 2022, 07:08:44 AM
https://9point8.ca/collections/slack-r-kits/products/foxtrot-slack-r-kit?variant=41077932720279

Thanks will give it a try
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: endo.alley on June 02, 2022, 10:43:25 AM
https://9point8.ca/collections/slack-r-kits/products/foxtrot-slack-r-kit?variant=41077932720279

I think it defaults to an integrated 56mm for the bottom cup. Main thing is to get the head tube length correct. You still need headset bearings.
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: Icyseanfitz on June 02, 2022, 12:30:49 PM
So what do you have to order for this to work (outside of measuring the headtube length) with the p9 frame, all I can select is is42 for the top cup and length
Title: Re: ICAN P9 29ER ENDURO BUILD
Post by: endo.alley on June 02, 2022, 04:46:01 PM
That is all I did.