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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: scourge on October 22, 2020, 04:14:21 PM
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https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2020-new-coming-full-suspension-29er_1600078214479.html?spm=a2700.details.deiletai6.4.31ca82ebBXHMnB
Looks a lot like the outgoing Transitions. Could be another interesting option.
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Sorry about the misspell in the title
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Fixed it for you.
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What is the head tube angle?
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Thanks, Ned.
The Geo chart doesn't show the head angle. But man, it looks like a Transition to me. That linkage style is dead on. Hopefully it has the Transition geometry. Could be another contender with the Hightower clone and the Firebird clone.
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Could be another contender with the Hightower clone and the Firebird clone.
Ah yes, another contender with non-existent, maybe medium only bikes :P
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Looks like an updated P-9 to me. Similar frame. Similar linkage. But maybe slacker head tube angle and steeper seat tube angle. Which could be a good thing.
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(https://sc02.alicdn.com/kf/H0287aadd35964a3ab9875bebb71537c3h/201713812/H0287aadd35964a3ab9875bebb71537c3h.png)
(https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/H4c18b5a8d81244ff8a4adb563bc49c61Q/201713812/H4c18b5a8d81244ff8a4adb563bc49c61Q.png_.webp)
(https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/H1f381938158a478884fe470d87e0c261B/201713812/H1f381938158a478884fe470d87e0c261B.png_.webp)
(https://sc02.alicdn.com/kf/H0e98d03eae904365a5fc6f5a33db92faK/201713812/H0e98d03eae904365a5fc6f5a33db92faK.png_.webp)
Images above from the alibaba link from OP.
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Here's the closest I could find for a geo comparo:
(https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/He4ebf771d0694a8cad035b4598a8b532H/201713812/He4ebf771d0694a8cad035b4598a8b532H.png_.webp)
I'm a bit surprised it doesn't follow metric sizing (Alibaba chart shows 153mm, aka 6inches, of travel). No idea what the head angle could be, but I hope it's below 65 degrees.
Pasted the above images from the Alibaba link.
Pasting the 2018 Transition Sentinal geo below for comparison:
(https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/stories/2017/08/23/fuller_GeoDiagram_Sentinel_297725.jpg)
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The transition appears to be a little slacker HTA. Although 551mm Axle to Crown seems pretty small. A 160Lyric is 571mm. So a 160 fork would slacken HTA.
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The transition appears to be a little slacker HTA. Although 551mm Axle to Crown seems pretty small. A 160Lyric is 571mm. So a 160 fork would slacken HTA.
551 mm is, if I recall correctly, the A2C measurement for a 160mm 27.5 Rockshox fork. That being said, a 160mm 29" fork would slacken it by half a degree, in a mullet setup, you slacken it up by 3/4 of a degree, at least.
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This is a 29er right? If so 27.5" measurements shouldn't apply.
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Ah yes, another contender with non-existent, maybe medium only bikes :P
So true lol ::)
This is a 29er right? If so 27.5" measurements shouldn't apply.
If its 29er (probably is), then the travel is 140mm.
551 mm is, if I recall correctly, the A2C measurement for a 160mm 27.5 Rockshox fork. That being said, a 160mm 29" fork would slacken it by half a degree, in a mullet setup, you slacken it up by 3/4 of a degree, at least.
27.5 Fox36 160mm is 549.1mm
I measured the drawing and headtube angle is ~67 degrees, stack ~626mm and reach is ~471mm (difficult to measure the pic is too pixelated).
And its 100 pieces min order, atm atleast.
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Looks like Transition Smuggler clone )
But not 100% copy )
(https://images.immediate.co.uk/production/volatile/sites/21/2019/04/transition-smuggler-carbon-01-d9f798d.jpg?quality=90&resize=768,574)
(https://ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb15066781/p4pb15066781.jpg)
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I enquired about ordering one. Frames are not available to purchase from the manufacturer until March 2021.
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That's too far off. Did they give you any other info? Updated geo? Travel? Etc?
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I enquired about ordering one. Frames are not available to purchase from the manufacturer until March 2021.
It's now March 2021. Any more info as to who was producing this?
:)
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I'll have to do some searching. I'm still interested in this one.
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Except for the shock being normal upright, it looks a lot like that bikefrog frame.
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Judging by the bottom bracket drop on the geo chart, this seems to be a 27.5 bike. I wonder how much travel it has in the front and the rear.
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27.5 would be perfect for my needs. I just need to find a vendor!
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In the original listing it says it's a 29er. I'm hoping it's a clone of the Smuggler.
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its hard to follow as the OP link seems to be for a different bike (first image and geo chart at least)
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its hard to follow as the OP link seems to be for a different bike (first image and geo chart at least)
Yes, none of it looks right.
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Topfire replied.. its available in medium.. but as per the odd image in the OP link
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Topfire replied.. its available in medium.. but as per the odd image in the OP link
Are you saying that the geo matches the link in the first post or the picture that was a few post after that? They seem like different bikes.
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the link. NOT the transition style picture in the thread.
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https://sc02.alicdn.com/kf/Hd7d8d969dd5d40f6b4659600b74674c0Q/201713812/Hd7d8d969dd5d40f6b4659600b74674c0Q.jpg
This is a geometry on the website. Different linkage though.
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Whatever that thing is it looks pretty good actually. Another thirsty chiner frame though.
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Topfire replied.. its available in medium.. but as per the odd image in the OP link
Doesn't look like you can insert much post into that frame?