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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: CasualRider on December 22, 2020, 10:09:16 AM

Title: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: CasualRider on December 22, 2020, 10:09:16 AM
Hi, I just happen to see a new mtb full suspension frame on icanbikes , the S24.

It has no details on the page. Does anyone have any information on it?
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: CasualRider on December 24, 2020, 03:43:26 AM
Ok got some details on it. They renamed it the s5 and it is available as pre-order only for now. It'll be ready by Feb/March.

It looks like it a 100m travel frame with 67 degrees ha and 77 degrees sta. Weight for frame only is about 2kg. It'll fit 2 water bottles.



Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: CasualRider on December 24, 2020, 03:45:03 AM
Forgot the last attachment.
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: bbr on December 25, 2020, 09:21:06 PM
Looks rally good. What are the specs?

Reach, Sta, hta, cs shock lenght?
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: carbonazza on December 26, 2020, 02:58:19 AM
Aren't they all selling frames from flybike ?
http://www.flybike-asia.com/product/179.html
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: albar on December 26, 2020, 07:43:30 AM
Aren't they all selling frames from flybike ?
http://www.flybike-asia.com/product/179.html

Interesting. Carbonda fm 936 also in this catalog
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: carbonazza on December 26, 2020, 12:08:03 PM
As well as other older frames various sellers were or are still offering.
There is a post about flybike in the forum.

They are B2B, so dealing with them will be more rough than with our usual sellers.
No painting option, no sophisticated shipping.
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: CasualRider on December 27, 2020, 07:17:02 AM
The specs should be in the pdf I attached earlier. I took a look at the flyway light spec carbon frame - I'd stay away from that unless I'm very light and doing very light trails. 1.6kg with that seat stays, looks like it'll snap if I suddenly go over a large log. It's so tempting to build another bike with that frame.

Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: carbonazza on December 27, 2020, 08:58:14 AM
...with that seat stays, looks like it'll snap ....

Not riding. If you fall on your frame with your full weight probably. Carbon is though  ;)
Maybe I should cancel my FM936 and order this one, I could get it before ???
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: rpfelle on December 27, 2020, 12:21:37 PM
What kind of shock is needed for this frame??
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: wfl3 on December 27, 2020, 01:07:03 PM
The specs should be in the pdf I attached earlier. I took a look at the flyway light spec carbon frame - I'd stay away from that unless I'm very light and doing very light trails. 1.6kg with that seat stays, looks like it'll snap if I suddenly go over a large log. It's so tempting to build another bike with that frame.

Doesn't really look any more "fragile" than the FM936 stays to me.  I have the superlight version of the FM936 and have been really impressed with it so far.  Did a race in Pisgah on it and it got me in over my head a few times and came thru like a champ.

This S5/S24 a lot like what I'd really want tho - 2 cages in the frame, slack geo & light weight.  I didn't see that fly weight version tho?  Where can I see that?

Thanks

Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: albar on December 27, 2020, 04:13:35 PM
400 gr is a quite big difference for normal vs suprlite frame. The weight of the frame on photo is the same as my L Carbonda fm936. It will be interesting to see the proof of weight of superlite frame.
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: CasualRider on December 27, 2020, 10:55:20 PM
What kind of shock is needed for this frame??

From the specs sheet, it looks to be a 165mm x 40mm trunnion metric shock.
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: CasualRider on December 27, 2020, 11:06:14 PM
Doesn't really look any more "fragile" than the FM936 stays to me.  I have the superlight version of the FM936 and have been really impressed with it so far.  Did a race in Pisgah on it and it got me in over my head a few times and came thru like a champ.

This S5/S24 a lot like what I'd really want tho - 2 cages in the frame, slack geo & light weight.  I didn't see that fly weight version tho?  Where can I see that?

Thanks

It was in the link that Carbonazza posted http://www.flybike-asia.com/product/179.html , no real proof of the weight though.

I'm a bit iffy when it comes to superlight weight frames, being as heavy as I am. Plus with the youtube video of the guy that broke his seat-stay, on his what I assume to be a 1.6kg frame, down a 2 foot drop. which my buds keep forwarding to me when I said I'm buying china carbon - I'll err on the side of caution just to prove them wrong.
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: wfl3 on December 28, 2020, 06:22:51 AM
It was in the link that Carbonazza posted http://www.flybike-asia.com/product/179.html , no real proof of the weight though.

I'm a bit iffy when it comes to superlight weight frames, being as heavy as I am. Plus with the youtube video of the guy that broke his seat-stay, on his what I assume to be a 1.6kg frame, down a 2 foot drop. which my buds keep forwarding to me when I said I'm buying china carbon - I'll err on the side of caution just to prove them wrong.

I see it now, thanks.  ;-)

I will say my 1.8kg Carbonda has def held up to MANY 2 foot (and up to 4ish) drops. Lots of jumps and cased doubles too.  :-(

It gets beat up regularly at my "home course" Graham Swamp Trail which is notorious for breaking bike stuff and people stuff.  ;-)
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: Corneliz on December 29, 2020, 07:03:26 AM
Interesting frame! I am looking for a pure XC version (light build, 100mm fork) next to my FM936 which is still going strong after around 1000kms.
At the moment I have some doubts going for this one straight away, I am thinking to wait till there are more shops offering alternative frames with a modern geometry.
I don't see too many differences between this frame and the FM936; the geometry seems more or less the same (reach, stack, chainstay length, seat and head tube angles) as well as the weight of the (superlight) frame.

What could be more benefits of this frame compared to the FM936, next to having space for two bidons? Will the suspension design bring more benefits?

Just wondering what your considerations are, I'm planning to spend some time to dive in the suspensions designs a bit.
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: carbonazza on December 29, 2020, 02:12:18 PM
200g lighter than the FM936, isn't it ?
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Post by: wfl3 on December 29, 2020, 04:39:46 PM
200g lighter than the FM936, isn't it ?

Yeah, that's in the territory of the newest Specialized Epic/Epic Evo S-Works frame.  Crazy light.

I actually tried to get an S-Works Evo frame thru a company with some local racers I have contacts with and the new Evos were just unobtanium.

Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: endurik on December 30, 2020, 07:15:24 AM
from now carbonda sells it too, FM909

http://www.carbonda.com/mountain/full-suspension/130.html
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: Corneliz on December 30, 2020, 08:08:57 AM
200g lighter than the FM936, isn't it ?

You're right! I thought the FM936 was also around 1700 grams, but it is slightly over 1900 grams indeed. So that is another good reason to get this one :)

from now carbonda sells it too, FM909

http://www.carbonda.com/mountain/full-suspension/130.html

Interesting! I'm going to reach out to them! Wondering what the price is.
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: CasualRider on December 31, 2020, 12:17:28 AM
Nice. I wondering about the price too.
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: albar on December 31, 2020, 11:41:03 AM
from now carbonda sells it too, FM909

http://www.carbonda.com/mountain/full-suspension/130.html

I also noticed it. I think for tecky riding FM936 will be better because of lower center of weight. But this one has room for 2 bottles and is lighter.
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: MTB-Addicted on December 31, 2020, 12:32:17 PM
Hi,
In my opinion, the main issue on this frame and 936 is the seat tube:
considering S24 comparison is the latest Specy Epic, their seat tube is too short.
I.e. If I consider the seat tube, I should buy a L size but reach and wheelbase is enormous while on M size the seat tube is too short while other measures would fit perfectly on my body.
Angles and measures are intriguing but extreme IMHO.
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: wfl3 on December 31, 2020, 01:43:35 PM

I'm just the opposite - I want the longer bike, but seat tubes are too long for me.  The S5/24 actually fixes this a bit for me. I might be able to make a 150mm dropper work with the large.
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: bbr on January 03, 2021, 01:00:37 AM
Is this trunnion mount?

Perhaps this frame can do 115 mm travel with 45 stroke

This frame from the looks can fit a piggy back shock.
Title: Re: icanbikes S24 - does anyne has info on this?
Post by: noodleshop on April 10, 2021, 03:29:45 AM
hey everyone, any updates on this build? Curious about this frame too. Cheers!