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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: Overload on March 01, 2021, 12:53:43 PM

Title: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Overload on March 01, 2021, 12:53:43 PM
Hi,

New guy here.

I've desperately been looking for info about a Lexon frame that lucks very much lika a Scott Spark but with a none trunnion shock mount.
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H0bc69905eb1f418180bed101cf736f08J.jpg)

This frame doesn't seem to have any official name but I have seen it referred to as "Model Number: 258" in some places. Mainly on Alibaba:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LEXON-Mountain-Bicycle-Frame-No-Logo_1600146495170.html?spm=a2700.wholesale.deiletai6.29.771912ba4f8MzK&bypass=true (https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LEXON-Mountain-Bicycle-Frame-No-Logo_1600146495170.html?spm=a2700.wholesale.deiletai6.29.771912ba4f8MzK&bypass=true)

Geometry is very similar to the Scott:
https://www.scott-sports.com/be/en/product/scott-spark-rc-900-team-issue-axs-bike?article=274626008 (https://www.scott-sports.com/be/en/product/scott-spark-rc-900-team-issue-axs-bike?article=274626008)

VS.
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H6679cac28c344216a833d515025f41caW.jpg)

Lexon is a BKR brand but their page doesn't seem to have been updated in ages and the frame is not on there:
http://www.bkrbicycle.com/article.php?AId=1 (http://www.bkrbicycle.com/article.php?AId=1)

The frame does seem to be a unik variant even if it's very close looking to other clones like the Lightcarbon LCFS911 or Tideace FM-XC029.

Does anyone here have any experience with this model? I haven't been able to find any tests or reviews anywhere. 
It looks like a good deal.

It's sold in a bunch of palaces but here are a few examples:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/2481023?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000007.1.48ce156epGjnj1 (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/2481023?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000007.1.48ce156epGjnj1)
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3206132?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000007.1.1b6d151fW9LxlZ (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3206132?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000007.1.1b6d151fW9LxlZ)
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/5748318?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000007.1.4abf60d3OXWj9t (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/5748318?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000007.1.4abf60d3OXWj9t)

Any recommendations on where to buy (or not to buy) is highly appreciated.  :)


Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: sclyde2 on March 02, 2021, 01:32:14 AM
That frame is the same as a hongfu fm258. There is plenty written on it here and on mtbr.  I have a similar frame (fm058) which is very very similar, just a different top tube seat tube junction and non-boost, but otherwise identical geometry.  It was also sold through pro-mance, and sissypants wrote up a fair bit of details out his - check out his thread on here.  I am still riding mine, and am still super happy with it, have had great success XC racing on it.

Those other frames you mention are not the same frame.
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Overload on March 02, 2021, 12:40:26 PM
Great!!!
This was exactly the information I was looking for!   :)

My googleing skills apparently aren't up to par...  ::)

Many thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: saintrider on April 05, 2021, 01:37:43 PM
Hi, im also new here, i've bought this frame after some long research and waiting for it to be delivered for my next project. This is the very same frame used in Torpado Matador.
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: hwpaints on April 08, 2021, 08:01:27 AM
i have the hong fu and ver sattisfied about it,
(https://i.ibb.co/zxGF67H/166342256-750142815892533-5184979539711216799-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6wg8X1J)
(https://i.ibb.co/fHMtkv3/165467273-166672155200614-455724944802426348-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZxdKBmQ)
(https://i.ibb.co/2YwDNQF/149114704-1785064128318674-5832860594882193925-o.jpg) (https://ibb.co/prgty81)
(https://i.ibb.co/X8vZY8b/148646358-1785064214985332-4078967517501390202-o.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tXWMLX4)
(https://i.ibb.co/9NZHDZr/147630756-1785064181652002-2628375645771033822-o.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JK3j13s)
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: adbosch on April 13, 2021, 03:16:41 PM
Ive ordered a lexon frame 18-03-21. Still waiting.
Keep you posted.


Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: scourge on April 13, 2021, 09:27:38 PM
I love that orange
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: saintrider on April 18, 2021, 03:59:32 PM
Very nice ORange....in fact Katana was a name i considered for my project :D...but wont be..

My frame is in transit....sent on the 26th...should by delivered tomorrow or tuesday (XDB -DPD)
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: adbosch on April 26, 2021, 09:38:55 AM
i've ordered the frame 18-03-21 and received it on the 22th of April.
It took about a week to get it through custom clearance.

Anyways i'am very satisfied with this frame.


Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: adbosch on April 26, 2021, 09:57:53 AM

Frame with shock          670,-   
Sadle, pedal and grips   70,-
GX Derailleur.               99,-
GX Chain                      29,-
GX Casette                  199,-
Gx shifter e bay            35,-
BB92 Sram                   35,-
Crank nx.                     89,-
Wheels second hand     160,-   ( Silverton 2.5 syncros with tires (tubeless)) Boost 148.
Fork second hand         150,-   ( Rock shox judy solo air ) 110mm x 15mm

Total: €1536,-  euro
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: scourge on April 26, 2021, 03:34:28 PM
Nicely done. Looks awesome.
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Zoc on April 27, 2021, 01:34:01 AM
Awsome bike,
and nice price
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: carbonazza on April 27, 2021, 04:53:03 AM
Do you have some more details about the shock ?
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: adbosch on April 27, 2021, 08:58:06 AM
Not sure what you want to know specific.
This is my first fully so i can't really compare. But i'm happy with it.

DNM shock 165*38mm
275 max psi.

Any questions let me know
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Flummox on May 05, 2021, 04:36:08 AM
@adbosch: Did you have to pay additional taxes, or is the statement from Lexon correct that there will be no additional charges? (assumption based on your alias, your from The Netherlands as well? :))

Another question: Does the frame fit 2.35 tires as well?

And great to see the builds, looks really nice!
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: adbosch on May 06, 2021, 05:01:32 AM
@Flummox: Yes i paid taxes (38,77 euro. ) It was shipped to LIege line hall and after that it went to Den Haag Imec . Imec is a department of Postnl, they arrange the custom clearance and charged me the 38,77 Euro. The package staid there for a week.

I found some info on the site of hong-fu about the tires: Suitable tire 148*2.3" (boost)
But i will ask lexon to be sure.






Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Flummox on May 07, 2021, 06:50:44 AM
 Thanks @adbosch! Lexon confirmed that 2.35 is the maximum width supported. Hwpaints did a check on his orange hong fu monster and that makes it double confirmed. Wider than 2.35 wont fit, that leaves too little clearance.
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: cyclemadkiwi on May 09, 2021, 10:18:33 PM
I am also looking to get one of these, can you tell me which parts of the frame detailing is painted? I have heard that some of it is stick on decals!
How is the DNM Shock? There are some reviews that it's pretty good, great value for money. I'm thinking I will go for the Rockshox option though.

Looks really slick I have to say, I am planning to get groupset off AliExpress too (Shimano XT) My road bike I also got brakes and Crankset Shimano Ultegra and it's good stuff.
Cheers
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Flummox on May 10, 2021, 08:48:40 AM
I placed my order for the Titan frame with the Rockshox shock yesterday.
Really looking forward to receiving it, but it will probably take another 4 to 5 weeks.  ;)
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Marcell96 on May 10, 2021, 12:44:18 PM
@Flummox: Yes i paid taxes (38,77 euro. ) It was shipped to LIege line hall and after that it went to Den Haag Imec . Imec is a department of Postnl, they arrange the custom clearance and charged me the 38,77 Euro. The package staid there for a week.

Hey @adbosch, that frame looks amazing!

I'm also looking to buy from The Netherlands, I guess you used Aliexpress standard shipping since it came so fast and sellers choice shipping should have been tax free?

And for the people looking for cheap shocks for this frame, there's also the SR Suntour Raidon LO, around the same price as the DNM, but 38 mm travel instead of 35 mm, though not adjustable.

Still undecided between this Lexon and the Seraph FM027 which is €140 cheaper...
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: adbosch on May 11, 2021, 03:02:48 AM
@ Marcel

Lexon raised there price with almost 200,- euro. Crazy prices now. Even the shipping costs went from 51,- to the Netherlands to 137,-
I paid 669 including dnm shock and shippind costs, now i want to order another one and i have to pay 856,-

I think it is overpriced at the moment and will look for another brand/frame

Any suggestion are welcome
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Marcell96 on May 11, 2021, 03:29:11 AM
@adbosch:

I'm pretty sure that's just the shipping price that got raised.
Since you paid tax and got it so fast, you probably chose the Aliexpress standard shipping, this option is now €200!
That's why I was so confused when I saw how fast you got the frame with how little you paid.

See screenshot for other frames around this price point, prices are including tax-free slow shipping to The Netherlands, but only the Seraph and BXT come close to what you originally paid for your Lexon.

Edit: Oh no wait, your graphite blue frame with DNM and standard shipping is now EUR 919!
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: adbosch on May 11, 2021, 04:43:32 AM
@MArcel

Hi Marcel,

I didn't chose for Aliexpress standard shipping ( Wich is now 200,-)

I paid 618,- for the frame with dnm shock and 51,- for seller's choice shipping. total 669,-
Now i have to pay 718,- for the frame with shock and 137,- for seller's choice shipping. total 855,-

It took about a month before i received the frame wile Lexon told me it was in stock.
They send the frame two weeks after payment.


Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Flummox on May 11, 2021, 07:11:03 AM
Yeah I saw the same with the Trifox sdy20 frame I've ordered 7 week back, its 120 euro's more expensive atm.
I think it's still a very nice frame and ordered it. The shipping costs were my biggest doubt, but I hear everywhere that there is an enormous demand for shipping so I don't think that will be resolved any time soon.

What I also noticed that there was a 38 euro variance between the different payment methods (iDeal, PayPal & Mastercard). In my case Mastercard used the latest exchange rates, which was beneficial as the rates were in favour of the Euro past weekend. Might also be worth validating, 5 minutes well spend in my case.  ;)
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: saintrider on May 11, 2021, 01:16:45 PM
I've ordered mine to Portugal using XDB Shipping with no taxes , taxes prepaid or whatever you wanna call it. Arrived through UPS with no Customs.
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Slappa on May 16, 2021, 02:11:51 AM
Frame with shock          670,-   
Sadle, pedal and grips   70,-
GX Derailleur.               99,-
GX Chain                      29,-
GX Casette                  199,-
Gx shifter e bay            35,-
BB92 Sram                   35,-
Crank nx.                     89,-
Wheels second hand     160,-   ( Silverton 2.5 syncros with tires (tubeless)) Boost 148.
Fork second hand         150,-   ( Rock shox judy solo air ) 110mm x 15mm

Total: €1536,-  euro

Do you have more pictures of your bike?
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Slappa on May 19, 2021, 04:54:32 PM
Have anyone here measured the wheelbase on the LEXON build?
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: saintrider on May 24, 2021, 02:05:38 PM
nope but i can measure my 17.5" M size if you want...its 1124 mm
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: saintrider on May 24, 2021, 03:05:09 PM
This weekend i've finished my first DIY Project...... My NMP Tattoo limited Edition  8)...

It's Mettalic Black with Hologram Glitter and Gold Lettering, logos and Graphics with a Gloss Finish. This took me about a little more than one month to prepare, paint and build.

Here are some photos of the finished build..
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: ultreia on June 17, 2021, 05:22:00 PM
i've ordered the frame 18-03-21 and received it on the 22th of April.
It took about a week to get it through custom clearance.

Anyways i'am very satisfied with this frame.

Do you know the weight of the frame? It is one of my options...
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Marcell96 on July 06, 2021, 10:47:35 AM
Just got my frame delivered to The Netherlands via XDB, took around 2 months, tax free though.
My first fully, carbon and no namebrand frame, finish isn't perfect but at least it's all straight and solid.

Keep in mind the only brake rotor size that fits the rear is 160mm.
And a 34T chainring fits easily, probably would fit 36T as well.
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Flummox on July 07, 2021, 01:21:24 PM
Gz Marcell96, looks great! My frame is now close to Lodz, train is taking ages to get to The Netherlands.  :o
Can't wait to start my own build, but pics like these keep the spirit up!

Hope it rides as well as it looks! Enjoy!
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Flummox on July 15, 2021, 01:50:50 PM
Maybe a bit unrelated, but does anyone know what happened to http://www.xmxdb.com/en/track.asp (http://www.xmxdb.com/en/track.asp)?
The website stopped responding about a week ago, I received this url with the order of my frame to track the shipping status. All the way from China to Poland the updates came regularly-ish, but since about a week the website is not loading at all anymore. I cannot find any information about a move, but for a technical issue it's taking way too long.  :o
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Jnewman on September 12, 2021, 02:20:15 PM
Maybe a bit unrelated, but does anyone know what happened to http://www.xmxdb.com/en/track.asp (http://www.xmxdb.com/en/track.asp)?
The website stopped responding about a week ago, I received this url with the order of my frame to track the shipping status. All the way from China to Poland the updates came regularly-ish, but since about a week the website is not loading at all anymore. I cannot find any information about a move, but for a technical issue it's taking way too long.  :o
How long did it take for you item to arrive? My XDB parcel has been stuck on ‘In Transit to Destination’ for over a week. Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Flummox on November 05, 2021, 08:56:31 AM
It took about 8 weeks for the frame to arrive per train. The build has been completed and I've already made quite a few enjoyable rides!  :) I hope yours has also arrived Jnewman!

See attached my build.
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: ckafamily on February 02, 2022, 04:21:37 PM
Nice bike Flummox, The blue makes it pop.
How much does it weigh?
I am thinking of the same frame. How does it feel compared to other xc bike you have ridden?
Thanks,
Christian
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Guives on February 17, 2022, 12:40:35 PM
Hello friends, i'm building a bike with a similiar hong fu frame, wich uses a 22.2mm bushing.
I bought a Dt Swiss Shock and he cames with the exactly same size of bushing, BUT they are made from alloy, and I don't know if they can put directly on carbon or do I need a NYLON/tecnil spacer to avoid the alloy bush touch the frame.
Can someone help me?
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: FullCarbonAlchemist on February 17, 2022, 01:32:28 PM
Hello friends, i'm building a bike with a similiar hong fu frame, wich uses a 22.2mm bushing.
I bought a Dt Swiss Shock and he cames with the exactly same size of bushing, BUT they are made from alloy, and I don't know if they can put directly on carbon or do I need a NYLON/tecnil spacer to avoid the alloy bush touch the frame.
Can someone help me?

You should be fine with either type of bushing, although DU has some friction advantages.

I’d try the metal bushing and see how it feels, then consider an RWS roller bearing if you want more small bump plushness.
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: Guives on March 15, 2022, 08:59:39 PM
Can someone tell me how many NM should I put on shock bolts?
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: T715 on June 17, 2022, 02:55:30 PM
How about some feedback and reviews please...
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: saintrider on June 17, 2022, 03:17:05 PM
Mine is one year old with almost 4000km of beating.....Still going very very strong, with a new pair of Fiberin 1200g wheels and 2.35 Tyres....What a horse, every day gets better. Just ordered a Sigeyi AXO Powermeter to go with it....Tired of being in the dark on the MTB (no Power numbers) :o 8)
Title: Re: Lexon 258 Full-Suspension XC
Post by: dabliuagaeme on March 20, 2023, 12:29:40 PM

In a few months I will buy this painting because I am waiting for the dollar exchange rate to improve.
In the meantime, I would like to ask those who already have this frame for some tips and a review of it.

I already apologize because I'm using Google to translate