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Title: Speeder cycling
Post by: Ved on September 25, 2022, 05:47:02 PM
Has anyone ordered anything from this company? Seems like their frame design is identical to winspace  and a few others. Seeing as they’re cheaper than most of those am I safe in ordering a frame and assuming they are coming from the same factory with the same frame weight etc? I don’t suspect I’d get a straight answer if asking directly.

Looking at the SC-R49D for completeness sake.
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: s3si1u on September 25, 2022, 07:00:54 PM
Here you go:
http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3597.0.html

Geometry for their frames looks to be the same as Winspace. I've thought about picking up the R48V, but it has to be made to order
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: Ved on September 25, 2022, 08:16:54 PM
Thanks. Yea ok. Maybe I be a Guinea pig and order the 49D then. A lot of people discussing them but can’t see whether many have actually ordered one. Very interested to see how it stacks up against winspace frames
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: daforce84 on September 26, 2022, 12:12:27 AM
Thanks. Yea ok. Maybe I be a Guinea pig and order the 49D then. A lot of people discussing them but can’t see whether many have actually ordered one. Very interested to see how it stacks up against winspace frames

There have been a few threads for Speeder, and there have been a few folks that've ordered from them, including me. Just email them and arrange an order... Like my post in the other thread mentioned, don't expect much in terms of customizations, unless you're willing to pay for it. And like the post above mentioned, there will probably be some sort of lead time. If those terms don't sit well with you, there's always Winspace.
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: Ved on September 26, 2022, 05:04:38 AM
Good to know. Think I’ll pull the trigger on the new 49D.



There have been a few threads for Speeder, and there have been a few folks that've ordered from them, including me. Just email them and arrange an order... Like my post in the other thread mentioned, don't expect much in terms of customizations, unless you're willing to pay for it. And like the post above mentioned, there will probably be some sort of lead time. If those terms don't sit well with you, there's always Winspace.
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: Ved on November 16, 2022, 03:41:28 AM
I’ve ordered the 49d is a custom colour way.

Also just ordered the 12 speed ultegra groupset and have winspace wheels.

I’ll let you know how the build goes. Should have it by mid Jan. I currently own a 2020 Merida Scultura 8000E.
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: agomezda on November 16, 2022, 04:31:59 AM
Hi, 52D ordered here, black gloss. They are not really customizing a lot (no decals etc), but they were open to discuss complex colors (glitter, metallic...), although I did not feel like taking the risk and went the easy way with black.

I guess we will get more insight as frames arrive, first orders might arrive to forum memebers in Dec. Mine EoJanuary or Feb since it is estimated to be ready 6th of Jan. I will post my progress.
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: Bonpensiero on November 16, 2022, 08:05:18 AM
[...] but they were open to discuss complex colors (glitter, metallic...)

Interesting. I had also asked about possible colours and was told that only black was possible and they don’t offer custom painting for a single set.
 
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: agomezda on November 19, 2022, 08:24:33 AM
This might mean they have lots of orders and a bottleneck painting?
70$ they told me at the time. Shinny red gloss with sparkles. They also said it was possible painting the seatpost and cockpit at the time…
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: Ved on December 20, 2022, 01:55:08 PM
Received the frame.

Extremely happy with the finish of the paint, the appearance of the carbon inside the frame. Getting it built next week so I’ll report ride quality and maybe post pic of completed build.

So far it’s exceeded my expectations so I hope the ride does too.
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: Tines on December 20, 2022, 02:10:18 PM
Received the frame.

Extremely happy with the finish of the paint, the appearance of the carbon inside the frame. Getting it built next week so I’ll report ride quality and maybe post pic of completed build.

So far it’s exceeded my expectations so I hope the ride does too.
Great to hear! Also slightly ahead of schedule. Did they communicate with you prior or just informed you that the frame is done and will be shipped next?
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: Ved on December 20, 2022, 02:13:23 PM
I prompted Justin a fortnight ago and he confirmed the frame was almost ready at the time.
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: Ved on December 26, 2022, 01:54:11 PM
Couldn’t be happier with the frame set tbh.

Looks and feels fantastic. Subjectively speaking it feels stiff, fast and posed in corners. More so than my Merida scultura 8000e.

Did a 200km ride as it’s first ride and felt fantastic
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: contraptions on December 26, 2022, 04:07:50 PM
Couldn’t be happier with the frame set tbh.

Looks and feels fantastic. Subjectively speaking it feels stiff, fast and posed in corners. More so than my Merida scultura 8000e.

Did a 200km ride as it’s first ride and felt fantastic

Did you get the integrated bars? Weights?

Any photos would be much appreciated.

I have a pair of their carbon spoked wheels which have held up to a 1000km of running in without incidence, but the front hub tolerances are crap, wheel rocks in bearings even when axle overtightened.
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: Ved on December 26, 2022, 10:06:06 PM
Ye got the handlebars and seat post. Didn’t weigh components individually but it’s come out to 7.9kgs including pedals, bottle cages, mounts.

That’s running winspace 38s and 12 speed ultegra with in built power meter. Frame and fork were painted
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: radfactor on January 04, 2023, 01:48:33 AM
It's great if you can share some pics of your build. How about the total weight for the build.
Cheers
Couldn’t be happier with the frame set tbh.

Looks and feels fantastic. Subjectively speaking it feels stiff, fast and posed in corners. More so than my Merida scultura 8000e.

Did a 200km ride as it’s first ride and felt fantastic
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: toci on January 04, 2023, 07:30:03 PM
Ye got the handlebars and seat post. Didn’t weigh components individually but it’s come out to 7.9kgs including pedals, bottle cages, mounts.

That’s running winspace 38s and 12 speed ultegra with in built power meter. Frame and fork were painted

We are waiting the pics Ved, please!
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: abdbeg on March 01, 2023, 11:28:57 PM
Agreed with others, please send some pics :)

Also how does it hold speed without pedaling? I know that even high end frames have problem that they don't hold speed as good as aluminium frames.


I also found image of the complete bike on their instagram
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: RDY on March 02, 2023, 11:25:25 AM
Agreed with others, please send some pics :)

Also how does it hold speed without pedaling? I know that even high end frames have problem that they don't hold speed as good as aluminium frames.


I also found image of the complete bike on their instagram

Are you trolling or serious?
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: abdbeg on March 02, 2023, 11:28:52 AM
Are you trolling or serious?

No, there's no jokes in my message, but what's part of the message do you mean?
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: Yunglord on March 02, 2023, 02:28:11 PM
No, there's no jokes in my message, but what's part of the message do you mean?

He means the part where you wrote that Alu bikes are better at holding speed which is total nonsense  8)
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: abdbeg on March 02, 2023, 10:58:26 PM
He means the part where you wrote that Alu bikes are better at holding speed which is total nonsense  8)

Oh yes, i need to learn express my thought better, not a native speaker also, i'm totally agree with you, what i meant by my message, is that it's really difficult to understand what exactly affects to this holding speed factor, the weight maybe? Not quite sure, every resource says different things. I'm saying that because i compared my giant contend (most budget road bike) with trek madone 2013 and cannondale and they were so much worse than my giant in terms of holding speed, even if these bikes costs 10 times more.
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: patliean1 on March 03, 2023, 08:33:25 AM
Inertia.

An 18 wheeler semi-truck will hold its speed more longer than a Mini Cooper. It's also one of (several) reasons why it takes a freight train upwards of a 1 to 1.5 miles to come to a full stop.
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: jannmayer on March 03, 2023, 08:52:35 AM
It's really hard to evaluate the performance of different bikes because there are so many variables. Tire rolling resistance, bearing drag, freehub drag, and wind resistance will all affect how well it holds the speed. So will the road surface, slope, and wind.


I have found that older aluminum bikes feel faster than my new carbon bike because you can feel more of the road vibrations through the stiff frame and narrow, high pressure tires. This is purely an illusion though!
Title: Re: Speeder cycling
Post by: carbonazza on March 07, 2023, 07:03:16 PM
If everything is in good state, the position on the bike is probably the most important factor. And may be significantly different between two bikes.

When coasting downhill, I'm generally faster than many bigger guys even the ones with aero bikes.