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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: coffeebreak on February 23, 2023, 11:33:55 AM

Title: STATE bicycles Undefeated carbon frame - any guesses on the origin?
Post by: coffeebreak on February 23, 2023, 11:33:55 AM

State is selling a new CF frame with BSA BB for $1300. Simple geometry.

https://www.statebicycle.com/collections/undefeated-road-bikes-fixed-gear-and-single-speed/products/undefeated-carbon-disc-road-frame-fork-set-graphite-prism

Any idea who makes it or what it is based on?

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0232/3305/products/UndefeatedCarbonDiscRoad_Graphite_Prism_1.jpg)

Title: Re: STATE bicycles Undefeated carbon frame - any guesses on the origin?
Post by: JohnnyRabbit on February 23, 2023, 11:47:51 AM

It looks like the Hongfu HF-FM088

Title: Re: STATE bicycles Undefeated carbon frame - any guesses on the origin?
Post by: coffeebreak on February 23, 2023, 11:59:58 AM

Ahh yes, does look very similar, geometry is spot on too. Good find! Only difference that I could find  is that on Hongfu's website tire clearance is 28c vs 30c on State.

Title: Re: STATE bicycles Undefeated carbon frame - any guesses on the origin?
Post by: jonathanf2 on February 23, 2023, 12:52:53 PM

I saw that awhile back, I was curious who they were sourcing the frames from? They also use Sensah for their shifters and RD.

Title: Re: STATE bicycles Undefeated carbon frame - any guesses on the origin?
Post by: coffeebreak on February 23, 2023, 01:22:52 PM

I saw a State bike recently and it had State branded shifters and drivetrain. They just rebrand Sensah stuff?

Title: Re: STATE bicycles Undefeated carbon frame - any guesses on the origin?
Post by: JohnnyRabbit on February 23, 2023, 02:06:16 PM

Quote from: coffeebreak on February 23, 2023, 11:59:58 AM

Ahh yes, does look very similar, geometry is spot on too. Good find! Only difference that I could find  is that on Hongfu's website tire clearance is 28c vs 30c on State.

Chinese manufacturers tend to put frame clearance on the low side I found.

Title: Re: STATE bicycles Undefeated carbon frame - any guesses on the origin?
Post by: jonathanf2 on February 23, 2023, 02:21:48 PM

Quote from: coffeebreak on February 23, 2023, 01:22:52 PM

I saw a State bike recently and it had State branded shifters and drivetrain. They just rebrand Sensah stuff?

Yes, all rebranded Sensah components. It's somewhat of an open secret.