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Title: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: WhityWhite on July 27, 2023, 02:19:19 AM
Hi Community,

I am currently looking for a wheelset for my aero setup.
Delivery to Germany.

I have currently identified the Elitewheels Edge (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004767705476.html?gps-id=pcStoreLeaderboard&scm=1007.22922.271278.0&scm_id=1007.22922.271278.0&scm-url=1007.22922.271278.0&pvid=111ebf40-5f6f-43ad-b4ea-3f81c69c7edc&_t=gps-id%3ApcStoreLeaderboard%2Cscm-url%3A1007.22922.271278.0%2Cpvid%3A111ebf40-5f6f-43ad-b4ea-3f81c69c7edc%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238115%232000&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21938.26%21694.31%21%21%21%21%21%40211b600d16904410479265814e0c61%2112000030399465986%21rec%21DE%214627672901&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.smartLeaderboard_2006113525867.1005004767705476&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu) as my favourite.
They are VERY affordable at around 600 euros / $550 - including tax and shipping.
And are supposedly very light and even stiff.

Does anyone here have any recent experience with the wheels?

They are only available on Aliexpress and not on the official Elitewheels site.

Otherwise, I would be very grateful for other suggestions in this price range?

I had some "Lightcarbon" wheels (https://www.lightcarbon.com/lightcarbon-road-wheels-c52db-ratchet-hub-disc-brake-road-carbon-wheels_p218.html)  in mind (52DB-RD28-55C-1423 Disc - Sapim CX-Ray - centre lock 12/100mm TA 12/142mm - 1540g - US$469 + shipping taxes US$147 = TOTAL US$616 = 567 €)
But these only have a rim height of 55mm and are a bit heavier :-P

I do NOT want carbon spokes.
Otherwise, as described in the title: approx. 65 mm height / tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth.
and preferably as light and stiff as possible :-)

thank you for your help!
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: WhityWhite on August 03, 2023, 05:11:37 AM
no one? :(
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: Mic553 on August 03, 2023, 07:47:10 AM
Well, I'm currently looking for something similiar except I'd stay with 50-55mm and I'd also consider carbon-spokes. Thanks for your link to the elite wheels, they seem to be the best offer I can find so far. I'd also be interested in other peoples experiences, but cannot contribute yet.

I would actually prefer 23mm innerwidth though. Anyone any ideas?
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: Koru1337 on August 09, 2023, 03:16:15 PM
I am looking for the same wheelsize. I found this wheelset with similar dimensions.

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005393755840.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

But no experience with this dealer.

Best regards to Germany
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: Mic553 on August 09, 2023, 11:51:16 PM
I am looking for the same wheelsize. I found this wheelset with similar dimensions.

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005393755840.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

These are almost 300g heavier than the Elite above. That seems too much, even for the lower price. 
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: BalticSea on August 10, 2023, 03:37:43 AM
How about Light bicycle WR65? You can spec them with few different hubs, they are 25mm inner width, 32mm outer width

Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: electrolux on August 10, 2023, 04:24:45 AM
I have the elite edge wheels but the 50mm variant. Only done approx 400km so far but they have been flawless.

Weight is as advertised and very impressive for the cost.

Happy to answer any specific questions.
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: Serge_K on August 10, 2023, 05:03:57 AM
Delivery to Germany.

I have currently identified the Elitewheels Edge (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004767705476.html?gps-id=pcStoreLeaderboard&scm=1007.22922.271278.0&scm_id=1007.22922.271278.0&scm-url=1007.22922.271278.0&pvid=111ebf40-5f6f-43ad-b4ea-3f81c69c7edc&_t=gps-id%3ApcStoreLeaderboard%2Cscm-url%3A1007.22922.271278.0%2Cpvid%3A111ebf40-5f6f-43ad-b4ea-3f81c69c7edc%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238115%232000&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21938.26%21694.31%21%21%21%21%21%40211b600d16904410479265814e0c61%2112000030399465986%21rec%21DE%214627672901&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.smartLeaderboard_2006113525867.1005004767705476&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu) as my favourite.
They are VERY affordable at around 600 euros / $550 - including tax and shipping.


I'm seeing this at 740 USD. Which would put them in line with Farsports.
I dont understand the carbon they use, it seems confusing on purpose. But if it weighs 1495g in 65mm, it's great. I got a farsports quote of 1495g for 58mm tubeless, it's a material difference in depth / material used. Same spokes (pillar wing 20). Except my quote has 24mm inner (30mm external), and yours 21mm.
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: BalticSea on August 10, 2023, 06:43:50 AM
I'm seeing this at 740 USD. Which would put them in line with Farsports.
I dont understand the carbon they use, it seems confusing on purpose. But if it weighs 1495g in 65mm, it's great. I got a farsports quote of 1495g for 58mm tubeless, it's a material difference in depth / material used. Same spokes (pillar wing 20). Except my quote has 24mm inner (30mm external), and yours 21mm.

Which Farsports wheel are these? Hecause I've just chexked their homepage and cheapest disc brake wheelset I could find was $1500

Ah, their other website does have cheaper options... Though the website is absolute mess
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: WhityWhite on August 10, 2023, 07:02:56 AM
I'm seeing this at 740 USD. Which would put them in line with Farsports.
I dont understand the carbon they use, it seems confusing on purpose. But if it weighs 1495g in 65mm, it's great. I got a farsports quote of 1495g for 58mm tubeless, it's a material difference in depth / material used. Same spokes (pillar wing 20). Except my quote has 24mm inner (30mm external), and yours 21mm.

it was my conversion error (EUR -> DOLLAR).

When you put it into the cart - and put the sellers shipping method.
Then you will become the bestprice incl. shipping and tax.
But now it is a bit more expensive as before a few days.

Now 615 Euro / 647 Dollar... :-/
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: OlieSimpson on August 10, 2023, 10:14:10 AM
How about the FarSports Gravel wheels: https://www.wheelsfar.com/gravel-wheelset-built-with-bitex-straight-pull-disc-hub-p0059.html

Deepest they go is 58mm but seem to meet your other criteria?
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: Serge_K on August 11, 2023, 05:36:29 AM
Which Farsports wheel are these?

Contact them by email directly. PM me if you want, i can give you the contact of my sales rep, she may give you the prices i get. Allegedly, i now get OEM pricing. I still think it's expensive, but at least they're good wheels :)
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: Koru1337 on August 13, 2023, 10:17:01 AM
Secoud try:

https://de.elvesbike.com/products/orome-valar-th50d-carbon-road-disc-brake-wheelsets,-disc-brake-carbon-wheels-superlight-carbon-disc-brake-wheelsets?VariantsId=10838

Wider wheels with deep section must be heavier. In my opinion the elitewheels are worth it. ZIPP or Enve wheels are significantly more expensive.
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: Morrisch on August 14, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
Hello community,

I have a related question as the one of the topic starter:
I'm looking for a Chinese frameset and I'm considering to combine this with a set of carbon wheels from the same supplier. Requirements for me are similar as discussed here.

Quite some frame suppliers also offer carbon wheels, often with customization options for rim depth, spokes (pillar, sapim), and hubs (Novatec, DT Swiss). I had a detailed look Tantan and Airwolf and both have a broad selection of aero wheels. They sell around 400-700 usd depending on material choice.

Does anybody have an opinion on the quality of such wheels? I would think it is an OK choice regarding safety/reliability but not top notch for performance or weight. Will they be inferior to a set of Elite wheels?
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: Serge_K on August 15, 2023, 01:44:59 PM
Does anybody have an opinion on the quality of such wheels? I would think it is an OK choice regarding safety/reliability but not top notch for performance or weight. Will they be inferior to a set of Elite wheels?

Elite wheels are not the gold standard of quality wheels, first of all.
Neither tantan nor air wolf will sell you garbage. I suggest if you can to make sure you get T800 carbon and not T700, and pillar wing 20 or sapim CX Ray spokes. Think also about the tyres you want to use and the corresponding rim width you should choose. T700 and cheap spokes will save you 100-200 USD but wheels matter greatly on a bike.
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: wandulus on August 28, 2023, 01:21:46 AM
Until today, the Edge model from Elitewheels can be bought for less than EUR 500, taxes included.  1495gr for 65mm.

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005005862855014.html?aff_fcid=3d89dec2a2294f988a7e018aa705a76e-1693203653037-00680-_DlHW8F1&tt=CPS_NORMAL&aff_fsk=_DlHW8F1&aff_platform=shareComponent-detail&sk=_DlHW8F1&aff_trace_key=3d89dec2a2294f988a7e018aa705a76e-1693203653037-00680-_DlHW8F1&terminal_id=f59f9c6474c248a4ac5688da1c637a21&afSmartRedirect=y
There are some -100 EUR coupons laying around (ES100 for Spain, for example)

Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: WhityWhite on August 28, 2023, 05:20:54 AM
Until today, the Edge model from Elitewheels can be bought for less than EUR 500, taxes included.  1495gr for 65mm.

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005005862855014.html?aff_fcid=3d89dec2a2294f988a7e018aa705a76e-1693203653037-00680-_DlHW8F1&tt=CPS_NORMAL&aff_fsk=_DlHW8F1&aff_platform=shareComponent-detail&sk=_DlHW8F1&aff_trace_key=3d89dec2a2294f988a7e018aa705a76e-1693203653037-00680-_DlHW8F1&terminal_id=f59f9c6474c248a4ac5688da1c637a21&afSmartRedirect=y
There are some -100 EUR coupons laying around (ES100 for Spain, for example)

i did it.

I took advantage of the Ali discount week and ordered on Friday.

With the BTS32 discount code and the current discount due to the promotion at Aliexpress, I'm currently paying $538.04 including tax and shipping via the SellersShipping method, which I'll pay with my credit card, and after conversion I'll end up with €495.57...

And that for 65 mm high rims with 21 mm jaw width with a set weight of 1495g ... unbelievable.


They wrote to me after the order that they are happy - but that I have to extend the delivery time by 15 days, otherwise they can't manage the order and have to cancel it.

Since I don't need the wheels until next year, that's fine and I'll wait 3 months instead of 2.


I will report on my experiences.



Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: wandulus on August 28, 2023, 06:32:36 AM
i did it.

I took advantage of the Ali discount week and ordered on Friday.

With the BTS32 discount code and the current discount due to the promotion at Aliexpress, I'm currently paying $538.04 including tax and shipping via the SellersShipping method, which I'll pay with my credit card, and after conversion I'll end up with €495.57...

And that for 65 mm high rims with 21 mm jaw width with a set weight of 1495g ... unbelievable.


They wrote to me after the order that they are happy - but that I have to extend the delivery time by 15 days, otherwise they can't manage the order and have to cancel it.

Since I don't need the wheels until next year, that's fine and I'll wait 3 months instead of 2.


I will report on my experiences.

Happy to read that!
I'm interesed in Gravel and 50mm options on that wheels. Usually in November 11st Ali offers good deals.
Keep posted your experience on this.
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: Mic553 on August 28, 2023, 09:41:16 AM
They wrote to me after the order that they are happy - but that I have to extend the delivery time by 15 days, otherwise they can't manage the order and have to cancel it.

Since I don't need the wheels until next year, that's fine and I'll wait 3 months instead of 2.

They asked me for a 20 day extend, which was fine. It then took only 13 days from order to shipping. Currently I'm still waiting for the delivery.   
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: Avalius on September 18, 2023, 09:23:46 AM
They arrive within two months mostly. Ordered a pair of 50 edge wheels. Aero advantage too small to size up.
Title: Re: Which Disc-Wheels??? 65 mm height / Tubeless / min. 21 mm innerwidth / TA
Post by: WhityWhite on September 25, 2023, 06:56:26 AM
Just for the overview and the continuation of the topic:
Here I list my experiences with the Elite Wheels Edge wheelset :-)

http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4444.0.html