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Title: Lightest Hub and Rims!
Post by: jakob on August 30, 2023, 04:00:19 PM
I want to build Up a real light wheelset with the sapim super CX , Not Sure which hub and Rim i should choose, searching for the lightest Set Up, please Help!
Title: Re: Lightest Hub and Rims!
Post by: Pedaldancer on August 30, 2023, 06:37:32 PM
Without any spec that's a bit weird question.  :-X
There's plenty of options for rims and hubs but most of them will be probably not what you want.

Title: Re: Lightest Hub and Rims!
Post by: jefflinde on August 30, 2023, 08:29:48 PM
if you are sub 90kg the light bicycle AR25s are going to be the lightest.  there are also some Fiber In rims that are sub 300g with no weight limit.  as for hubs, extralite, Tune DT Swiss 180 are probably the lightest.  however, novatec 411/412 are super light and affordable, venfort makes a super light DT 180/240 clones that are way cheaper than the other. 
For spokes, pilar 1420 DT swiss aerolight are the lightest.  if you have the $$ then Berd or Pi Rope will save you another 100g over the Pilar/DT Swiss options. 

I hvae the novatec/fiber in combo and they are sub 1100g. 
Title: Re: Lightest Hub and Rims!
Post by: some guy on August 31, 2023, 01:15:11 AM
Do you have a link for the fiber in rims?
Title: Re: Lightest Hub and Rims!
Post by: TidyDinosaur on August 31, 2023, 01:25:43 AM
if you are sub 90kg the light bicycle AR25s are going to be the lightest.  there are also some Fiber In rims that are sub 300g with no weight limit.  as for hubs, extralite, Tune DT Swiss 180 are probably the lightest.  however, novatec 411/412 are super light and affordable, venfort makes a super light DT 180/240 clones that are way cheaper than the other. 
For spokes, pilar 1420 DT swiss aerolight are the lightest.  if you have the $$ then Berd or Pi Rope will save you another 100g over the Pilar/DT Swiss options. 

I hvae the novatec/fiber in combo and they are sub 1100g.

One more vote for the Novatec hubs. I have been looking for alternative hubs on Ali and you can find some that are 50-60gr lighter. But I am a Novatec fan for the simplicity of their hubs and especially because they just work (after you replaced the original set of bearings after a few 100km's that is) and it it very easy to get replacement parts...
You can get a less known brand hub that is lighter, but what if the freehub gets damaged (happens a lot judging by the reviews of for example Goldix hubs) and you have to order one from china... 1 month without a bike if you are unlucky. You can get Novatec replacement parts from their own (EU) website or from a lot of online bike stores.
Combine the 411/412 hubs with 315gr carbon rims and Sapim laser spokes and you have a 1200gr wheel :)
Title: Re: Lightest Hub and Rims!
Post by: TidyDinosaur on August 31, 2023, 01:29:03 AM
Do you have a link for the fiber in rims?

You're probably better of just ordering the complete wheels from them. When I was looking for a high rim wheelset I came across Fiberin and they have a gravel wheelset with 45mm rims and the 411/412 hubs for less money than you can find the parts on their own. I bought them last year and they are great. I use them on my roadbike with 28mm tires now.
Title: Re: Lightest Hub and Rims!
Post by: jefflinde on August 31, 2023, 03:35:41 PM
You're probably better of just ordering the complete wheels from them. When I was looking for a high rim wheelset I came across Fiberin and they have a gravel wheelset with 45mm rims and the 411/412 hubs for less money than you can find the parts on their own. I bought them last year and they are great. I use them on my roadbike with 28mm tires now.

This is how I would go unless you are looking to go Berd or pi rope spokes.  They can build with all the lightest spoke options.  These are the rims though.  They are true to the weight.  I have 3 sets and all where at or under the 280g

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800282655021.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.2399631dizNRBJ&browser_id=0e4e00d841e747f284fa68c56790414e&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=exhyfyziscaawvma18a4d4e1236229431022117444&gclid=&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21165.00%21130.35%21%21%21165.00%21%21%402102169316935140767328462d0778%2110000001887192732%21sea%21US%21729227242%21&algo_pvid=e0ad4b66-48cf-4603-b6be-b15479d39fbd
Title: Re: Lightest Hub and Rims!
Post by: OralMaster on September 04, 2023, 09:22:54 PM
timibikes on taobao is my go to!

he has options of hubs ranging from novatec/hubsmith/DT Swiss/Chris King. The new carbon wheels are also lightweight!
Title: Re: Lightest Hub and Rims!
Post by: electrolux on September 05, 2023, 12:12:16 AM
timibikes on taobao is my go to!

he has options of hubs ranging from novatec/hubsmith/DT Swiss/Chris King. The new carbon wheels are also lightweight!
Which country are you from and how does the taobao ordering process go?
Title: Re: Lightest Hub and Rims!
Post by: jakob on September 15, 2023, 04:54:15 PM
okay, so if i search for about 45 mm high rims and i want to take the whole wheelset is the lightcarbon (https://de.lightcarbon.com/lightcarbon-ultra-light-and-stiff-disc-brake-road-wheels-with-carbon-spokes_p208.html) one of the best choices, or would you recommend something better, is there something lighter possible?
what do you say about the depth? thought that 45 would be a good allrounder, livin in berlin here evereything is flat but sometimes in freiburg, the black forest with a lot of mountains.
Title: Re: Lightest Hub and Rims!
Post by: carbonazza on September 16, 2023, 09:58:20 AM
I ride(and love  8)) these on my road bike https://www.lightbicycle.com/700C-tubeless-bicycle-wheels-32mm-wide-40mm-deep-clincher-for-cyclocross-road-and-gravel-bikes.html , with 28mm tires.
You could order them with aero carbon spokes, that would save 100-150g compared to CX-Ray's
Title: Re: Lightest Hub and Rims!
Post by: OralMaster on November 09, 2023, 01:02:14 AM
Which country are you from and how does the taobao ordering process go?


I am in Singapore. you can use try using the web browser translating function and surf taobao. I believe taobao ships to multiple countries.