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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: w2ge on September 29, 2023, 06:53:18 AM

Title: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: w2ge on September 29, 2023, 06:53:18 AM
Elves Eglath Pro size XL

Prologo Scratch carbon Saddle
Orome Aeropro integrated bars
Supacaz bar tape
Ultegra Rx rear derailleur
Ultegra 8100 cranks w Stone 50/34 Chainrings
160mm icetech rotors F/R
Gold KMC EL chain, waxed
CeramicsSpeed OSPW
WHEELS Mfg ceramic BB
Gold Wolftooth centerlock rings and Better Bolts hardware for Calipers
Elite Fifty wheels with upgraded 54tooth hub wrapped in Continental gp5000 tires, RideNow tpu tubes

Bike assembled by and all parts choices were done together with Rey Lopez @Bikebuildz.   Awesome guy to work with, bike is an absolute weapon!
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: kubackje on September 29, 2023, 08:48:47 AM
GREAT looking bike, absolute beast. Can you post more photos, would love to see side view.
And tell us how it rides :)
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: cucumber19 on September 29, 2023, 09:58:34 AM
Beautiful bike! Very curious about the Eglath ... seems to no get as much love as some of Elves' other bikes.  What are your ride impressions?
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: w2ge on September 29, 2023, 10:13:26 AM
I can’t compare it to too many bikes as I haven’t ridden a ton of others, but I’ve been riding a Trek Domane CF w Ultegra (2020) for the past three years.  This bike is a WEAPON compared to my Domane.  Domane is ridding on 32s on DT Swiss wheels but just seems SLUGGISH compared to the Eglath.   Eglath doesn’t get the love because ELVES (imo) has been pushing the FALATH EVO,  and now the brand new VANYAR .., they're taking up all the “air in the room”.

Eglath is an all-rounder bike, just not sexy to many anymore..  those others (new VANYAR, and new FALATH EVO) are getting crit guys, the press, etc. excited..  a lightweight climbing bike, and an aggressive aero bike.

Re: the ride..   thrilled to death, smooth as silk, fairly stable (I’m running 400mm wide bars, 100mm stem) hit 33.6mph yesterday (downhill, of course ;D ) and >28mph in the flats. 
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: PLA on September 29, 2023, 10:38:53 AM
the thing i like most about elves is how the name of their frames is like they've put a bunch of letters in a blender and set it to max.
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: sbellote on September 29, 2023, 11:00:07 AM
Eglath doesn’t get the love because ELVES (imo) has been pushing the FALATH EVO,  and now the brand new VANYAR .., they're taking up all the “air in the room”.
yeah, it has to do with current marketing focus (their recent launches) and how Elves came to be more known over the last year (which has a lot to do with the Falath Evo).
Because the brand itself is already known in China and southeast Asia for years, it's just that the western world (and Australia) got to know it recently

anyway, great looking bike! really beautiful frame, the paintjob is nice, and the build itself is well put together. Glad to hear it rides nice :)
now, any particular reason to keep the 'pillar' adhesives on the spokes?

the thing i like most about elves is how the name of their frames is like they've put a bunch of letters in a blender and set it to max.
it's actually just names of Elven people from Tolkien's lore. Vanyar, Eglath and Falath(rim) which the brand decided to exclude the last letters
as someone who is a fan of Tolkien, this brand caught my attention years ago while browsing through Aliexpress ;D
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: w2ge on September 29, 2023, 02:25:01 PM
Lol, Pillar decals were during the build. 

Thanks for the info re ELVEN names, had no idea!  Learn something new everyday even on Chinertown.  Who’da thunk it?
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: Takiyaki on September 29, 2023, 02:25:44 PM
This frame is my pick of Elves lineup... love the look and the geometry. Been waiting to see one of these built up for a while
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: w2ge on September 29, 2023, 04:45:24 PM
Nice, learn something new everyday, didn’t realize the names were from Tolkien.   

Lol, Rey @bikebuildz took those photos with the Pillar decal while it was being finished.  He’s a beast btw, holds like 15 STRAVA KOMs’ in our area.

Some more photos: (@kubackjeee)
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: jonathanf2 on September 30, 2023, 12:43:21 PM
Nice bike! I think this is where Chinese carbon builds shine when you mix-n-match stuff you can get off AliEx with top-tier Shimano components.
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: precision6625 on October 03, 2023, 12:21:32 PM
How are the Stone 2x chainrings? Like if you're spinning slowly does it consistently hook onto the first shift pin available and shift up, as stock Shimano does? And shifts under heavier loads, cross chains in the big ring acceptably, etc?
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: kubackje on October 03, 2023, 02:36:10 PM
How are the Stone 2x chainrings? Like if you're spinning slowly does it consistently hook onto the first shift pin available and shift up, as stock Shimano does? And shifts under heavier loads, cross chains in the big ring acceptably, etc?

I am also interested. Wonder if they would work with my 11 speed dura ace? The seller on Ali told me it's only for 12 speed. Do You use 11 or 12 speed chain?
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: w2ge on October 03, 2023, 06:10:41 PM
How are the Stone 2x chainrings? Like if you're spinning slowly does it consistently hook onto the first shift pin available and shift up, as stock Shimano does? And shifts under heavier loads, cross chains in the big ring acceptably, etc?

They are awesome, very impressed with these chainrings.  Can handle huge watts, shifts are clean, clean, clean and immediate.   Very quiet, too.  I’m using 11speed kmc waxed chain on a 11s ultegra cassette.

I however.. just ordered a SRAM FORCE AXS ETAP 1X set.   ::)
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: kubackje on October 04, 2023, 05:53:53 AM
They are awesome, very impressed with these chainrings.  Can handle huge watts, shifts are clean, clean, clean and immediate.   Very quiet, too.  I’m using 11speed kmc waxed chain on a 11s ultegra cassette.

I however.. just ordered a SRAM FORCE AXS ETAP 1X set.   ::)

I thought that spacing on 12s chainrings is a little different then on 11s chainrings. That's what I've read on the net and that's why 2 sellers told me it's not compatible with 11s. That's why it's great to here from You that it works.
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: Ar26 on October 09, 2023, 06:52:12 AM
Hello, the photos of the Eglath frame are misleading. Indeed, the frame is very inclined. The head tube is very high (opposite of the Vanyar) and the seat tube is low. In the photos, it appears that the horizontal tube is parallel to the ground. For example, if I follow Elves' size recommendations, for my 1m78, I end up with 120mm of head tube for the Vanyar and 170mm for the Eglath.
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: w2ge on October 09, 2023, 02:37:06 PM
Hello, the photos of the Eglath frame are misleading. Indeed, the frame is very inclined. The head tube is very high (opposite of the Vanyar) and the seat tube is low. In the photos, it appears that the horizontal tube is parallel to the ground. For example, if I follow Elves' size recommendations, for my 1m78, I end up with 120mm of head tube for the Vanyar and 170mm for the Eglath.

Not quite sure exactly your point, but here’s another side photo of my Eglath with the camera being  perfectly level with the ground.  I used the tops of the tires with my cameras screen grid to make sure the camera was level.  My frame is an XL, I’m 6’0..  measuring from the top tube by the seat to ground is ~ 78cm and at where the top tube attaches to the headstock it’s 85cm, so yes…it’s inclined upwards of ~ 8cm back to front.   Pretty typical imo of many endurance bikes currently available.
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: kubackje on October 09, 2023, 02:43:18 PM
Hello, the photos of the Eglath frame are misleading. Indeed, the frame is very inclined. The head tube is very high (opposite of the Vanyar) and the seat tube is low. In the photos, it appears that the horizontal tube is parallel to the ground. For example, if I follow Elves' size recommendations, for my 1m78, I end up with 120mm of head tube for the Vanyar and 170mm for the Eglath.

Is this post serious or a troll?
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: Ar26 on October 09, 2023, 03:43:20 PM
Excuse me for being interested in the geometry of the frames. But this is what I see on the internet.
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: w2ge on October 09, 2023, 04:37:44 PM
Tbh, that picture you posted imo is the misleading one.  It does look very severely sloped in your pic, I don’t know why.  But trust me, the pic of my bike is exactly what it looks like in person, along with the measurements I gave you of the difference of the top tube heights.   

I don’t quite understand your concern or question… yes, the Vanyar design is different than the Eglath, and the Falath, etc.
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: Ar26 on October 10, 2023, 01:41:41 AM
It is very simple . The choice of a frame is obviously for technical, sporting,  reasons ...but also for some (I am not the only one) for aesthetic reasons. Regarding the photo, it comes from the Elves site. I also note that it often appears in the comments on the Eglath bike that it is very comfortable. This is partly explained by its geometry. High head tube and large seat post that absorb road vibrations. Regarding the lay up, I have no information.
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: sbellote on October 10, 2023, 06:29:13 AM
couldn't the issue be that the photos are from different frame sizes?
with lots of frames, the smaller sizes have a more sloped top tube - the seat-post is smaller in relation to the stack/head-tube
so if you take the XL frame from w2ge the top tube will indeed be almost horizontal, while if you go for a XS it'll probably be a lot more sloped

if you look atthis photo (https://www.stickybottle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Comparison-e1442524679763-600x403.jpg) of GCN's presenter Connor beside a shorter teammate, it's the same frame but you can see a top-tube slope difference (not so extreme, though)

I remember some time ago seeing a photo of 2 pro riders from the same team side by side, one of them was like 2m height and the other 1,6m, showing their bikes size difference. It'd be the perfect example, but I cannot find it again
Title: Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build
Post by: w2ge on October 10, 2023, 06:33:10 AM
@Ar26, gotcha..

Stack and Reach specs etc. are all available on the Elves website.  I think that photo from the Elves website gives that very “sloped toptube appearance” as the seat tube is very high in that frame.   Probably a smaller sized frame as @sbellote just posted as I was typing this!

  In my circumstance, I could have possibly gone down to the large as the reach is only 6mm shorter than my XL. My height is 183cm.  I’m running their 400/100mm stem bars and I believe they have 110mm stem available which would have covered that.  Stack would’ve put me in a more bent over position as I already added an extra 5mm spacer at my headtube on my XL frame on top of what spacers come standard with the bike (Elves sent me extra spacers for free, just by asking).  It would’ve had me on a more extended seatpost as shown in the stock Eglath photo.   Anyway, yes.. its a very comfortable bike, and this is compared to my Domane Carbon Fiber that has IsoSpeed Front and Rear!