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Chinese Carbon MTB => Metal Frames => Topic started by: adri on July 10, 2024, 09:31:35 AM
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Hey I found this new Metal Frame from Fastworks (not sure if Himalo makes them)
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005007322575385.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller.2.487euN1huN1hQ9&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=39a4cdfc-8223-48af-a80e-b101c0cf6b6c&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:39a4cdfc-8223-48af-a80e-b101c0cf6b6c,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238107%231934&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21CHF%21490.71%21343.50%21%21%21536.00%21375.20%21%402101ea8c17206207803658360e4a17%2112000040258494699%21rec%21CH%212792483145%21&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller%7Cquery_from%3A
It appears that they made some improvements, like bigger bearings, a more stable axle in the linkage, and thicker parts on the frame.
I just wanted to show what I found and ask how your experience is with the company. ( I really like the color)
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Looks pretty interesting to me. I'd like to learn more about it.
When looking at this frame on Aliexpress I see a link for another aluminum frame that has the shock connected to the down tube like a Jeffsy. It says the seller is Greenrider
Store. I'm really interested in that frame too. Wonder how these two frames compare.
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You mean this ?
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005007322688314.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller.3.6d90YeW2YeW2Dp&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=29c55c0c-b0b6-4b6f-bbc2-fe226cf60748&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:29c55c0c-b0b6-4b6f-bbc2-fe226cf60748,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238109%231935&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller%7Cquery_from%3A
Yea, I am interested in the frame too. It even has 2 yoke links, one for 210mm and the other for 220mm (eye-to-eye shock).
I do not know if the geometry on the link is even the correct one.
How much travel each link has is still a mystery.
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that second link you posted is the Winbo Cooyes CY-6 which appears to be the newer version of the CY-5, and it is also about us$170 more, I have been looking at the cy5 for a very long time but I haven't been able to get it yet. It has 155 rear travel instead of 162 and i dont know if it has that same two length shock mount. If anyone knows more about Winbo bikes I haven't been able to find anything at all besides that so, please let me know.
cy5 link: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806549616291.html?spm=a2g0o.home.0.0.403a76dbLp4hky&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt
this is my first post, by the way, i have been trying to research the cy5 and i found this and thought it might be helpful for me to learn more about it.
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Both the 5 and 6 look pretty good to me
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What's keeping you from getting it? What reservations do you have on this frame?
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wonder what the stackhight is on this frame? cant find it in the info
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What's keeping you from getting it? What reservations do you have on this frame?
Already bought a frame and too litle information
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Fair enough
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The first link has better geo imo
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I’m noticing that the cable routing on the horizontal shock frame looks iffy. The dropper routing is a little funky but the rear brake (and possibly the shift cable) routing seems to run outside the frame for a long distance without much if any clips holding it in place. Seems like a recipe for rattle and annoyance but the pictures aren’t quite high res enough to tell for sure.
Weight of both frames is on the high side, but I don’t look at enough alloy frames to tell by how much.
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I was looking at the new Cam Zink Vacay frames and noticed someone in the comment section thought it looked an awful lot like the Winbo Cooyes CY-6. It does look pretty similar but the geometry seems a lot better to me. If Winbo ever offers a new CY-6 with this geometry, I'm in.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-cam-zink-launches-zink-bikes-vacay.html
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I was looking at the new Cam Zink Vacay frames and noticed someone in the comment section thought it looked an awful lot like the Winbo Cooyes CY-6. It does look pretty similar but the geometry seems a lot better to me. If Winbo ever offers a new CY-6 with this geometry, I'm in.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-cam-zink-launches-zink-bikes-vacay.html
I’ve been thinking the same thing. It looks like a bunch of swing-link horizontal shock frames similar to Fastwork’s, even down to some of the details like the shape of the stays.
What convinced me it was actually unique to Cam was something he said about the kinematics: it’s tuned more for support on jumps, wheelies and manuals than it is for pedaling versus most bikes. I assume this relates mainly to anti-squat but probably also involves different tradeoffs on anti rise and pedal kickback than typical 150mm frames. Subtle tweaks on the pivot locations can easily do this on yoke driven swing link designs, so it wouldn’t necessarily look that different from Fastwork etc.
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Hopefully the Chinese frames start adopting geometry more like this frame. Steeper seat tube angles, etc
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Has anyone bite the bullet and got a CY5/6? Looking at them pretty seriously. Open to any input
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Nope. I'm still looking both seem like great options to me, though. I'm also now interested in that mullet frame that I started a thread on. But no one has commented, so I guess no one else is interested in it. As far as the other frames, I'm not sure if I like the 5 or 6 more
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Yea, I think gmbn did the CY5
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Hopefully the Chinese frames start adopting geometry more like this frame. Steeper seat tube angles, etc
I think they already do. Just talked a while to sift through the enormous amount of frames to find the modern frame.
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Yea, I think gmbn did the CY5
I was pretty pumped when I saw that vid pop up on my feed. But the vid felt weird. He was complaining about odd things being extremely nit-picky. The stem is too sharp? The saddle smells chemically? And then he obviously didn't pay attention when ordering the cassette and cranks. And what was with measuring the head angle on the uneven head tube? Just measure it on the fork stanchions. This vid felt like it went out of its way to complain as much as possible. I was hoping for a fair assessment.
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This is my fastwork enduro bike, I bought most of parts from Aliexpress
(https://i.imgur.com/l7jQDEW.jpeg)
Frame and Suspension
Frame: Fastwork Four-link soft fail trunnion
Rear Shock: Marzocchi Bomber Air 205x65mm
Fork: Marzocchi Bomber Z1 Coil 170mm
Wheels and Tires
Front Rim: GW 29
Rear Rim: GW 27.5
Front Hub: Novatec D041SB
Rear Hub: Novatec D442SB
Spokes: GW
Front Tire: Maxxis Assegai 2.5
Rear Tire: Maxxis Assegai 2.5
Tubeless Sealant: N/A
Drivetrain
Crankset: Shimano Deore M5100 175mm
Chainring: Shimano Deore 30T
Pedals: Fooker
Chain: KMC 11s
Cassette: Shimano Deore 11x
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore 11x
Shifter: Shimano Deore 11x
Chain Guide: Ztto
Brakes
Front Brake: Shimano SLX 4 pistons
Rear Brake: Shimano SLX 4 pistons
Front Rotor: Shimano SLX 203mm
Rear Rotor: Shimano SLX 203mm
Pads: Shimano XTR
Cockpit (Handlebar and Steering)
Handlebar: PNW Gen 3
Stem: Funny Equalizer 35mm
Grips: ODI Elite Pro
Headset: Ztto
Saddle and Seatpost
Saddle: EC90 Carbon
Dropper Seatpost: KS 900i Exa Form
Seatpost Clamp: Fastwork
Miscellaneous Components
Frame Protection Tape: Enlee
Chainstay Protector: N/A
Bottle Cage: Elite Prism
Multitool: M19
I love it but it's a heavy bike ~39lb. I think I could significantly reduce the weight with higher-quality wheels. However, after three months of heavy use, no complaints so far.
Most of the components came from a previous project, so I only had to buy the frame and the shock.