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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: spcycle on July 27, 2024, 04:02:49 AM

Title: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: spcycle on July 27, 2024, 04:02:49 AM
Dear All:

Have a nice day.

For M868 some inforamtion listed:

Model Name: SP-M868

Material: Full Carbon Fiber

Size: S M L XL

Headtube: 1-1/2" to 1-1/2"

Bottom Bracket: BSA 73mm, threaded

Rear Shock: 190x45mm, Standard install, Bushing specifications Front 8x50mm, Rear 8x22mm.

Cable : Full hides internal cable routing

Frame Travel: 120mm

Advise Fork Travel: 120mm

Brake Type: Post Mount Disc Brake, 180mm Rotor.

Rear Space : 12x148mm Boost, UDH Hanger

Seat Tube: 31.6mm

Max Tire: 29x2.4"

Test Standard:ISO 4210+ 20%

Crankset: Single chainring, Max 38T

Weight: 1720+/-60g. This is the weight of matt black frame

Package including: Frame + Clamp + headset + thru axle.

This frame will be listed at the end of August, Any interesting of this frame, feel free to contact us at any time.

info@lc2000.com.cn
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: darkening on July 27, 2024, 06:09:37 AM
Do you have the leverage ratio and anti-squat charts for this frame?
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: federic000 on July 27, 2024, 06:47:29 AM
 Is the rocker made of carbon or ALU?
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: lukwy on July 29, 2024, 05:18:11 AM
What is the difference to SP-M861?
Only the rear caliper mount? I hope there is still the cable port in the headtube?
If so, I would be interested.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: spcycle on July 31, 2024, 04:07:11 AM
Is the rocker made of carbon or ALU?

The M868 is a carbon rocker arm.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: spcycle on July 31, 2024, 04:09:20 AM
What is the difference to SP-M861?
Only the rear caliper mount? I hope there is still the cable port in the headtube?
If so, I would be interested.

The front triangle is the same as the M861. It uses a full integrated cable design.
The rear triangle and carbon rocker arm are redesigned. The strength will be increased by 30%.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: kalare on July 31, 2024, 11:12:43 AM
Can frame be made or drilled with ports for cables on headtube or downtube instead of headset? 
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: dasfliege on August 02, 2024, 02:29:40 AM
Can't find the bike on aliexpress or in your own shop. When will it be available? Will it replace the SP-M861?
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: spcycle on August 02, 2024, 04:40:47 AM
Can frame be made or drilled with ports for cables on headtube or downtube instead of headset?

In theory it is possible to drill holes in the head tube or down tube of the frame to achieve semi-integrated cables. I will confirm this with our engineers.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: spcycle on August 02, 2024, 04:41:49 AM
Can't find the bike on aliexpress or in your own shop. When will it be available? Will it replace the SP-M861?

We expect to list it on AliExpress by the end of August. M861 will continue to be sold.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: Iztok on August 02, 2024, 05:09:24 AM
Can you please send me price for frame?
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: spcycle on August 05, 2024, 05:00:34 AM
Can you please send me price for frame?

Retail price is 899USD. Including shipping cost. EU buyers do not need to pay customs tax.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: aeroskiii on August 06, 2024, 01:11:04 PM
The front triangle is the same as the M861. It uses a full integrated cable design.
The rear triangle and carbon rocker arm are redesigned. The strength will be increased by 30%.
How is the rear triangle different?
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: JonesD on August 22, 2024, 03:31:55 AM
In theory it is possible to drill holes in the head tube or down tube of the frame to achieve semi-integrated cables. I will confirm this with our engineers.
That would be interesting to know, a frame with cables through the headset is a no go for me :)
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: Specialf. on August 22, 2024, 05:50:22 AM
It vaguely resembles the OIZ. very nice.!
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: Engikris on September 03, 2024, 04:33:34 AM
I contacted SP Cycle and was told that it'll be released on september now. I guess they needed to do more testing.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: lukwy on September 03, 2024, 04:44:19 AM
That would be interesting to know, a frame with cables through the headset is a no go for me :)

For me too, and I suppose for many. The cable routing itself is not a problem for me, but I race, so I want the cockpit as low as possible with a fork of 120mm travel. A completely internal routing is the opposite of that idea. Besides, I am a fan of mechanical gear changes and sharp cable turns will not work here :)
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: Engikris on September 03, 2024, 05:31:30 AM
For me too, and I suppose for many. The cable routing itself is not a problem for me, but I race, so I want the cockpit as low as possible with a fork of 120mm travel. A completely internal routing is the opposite of that idea. Besides, I am a fan of mechanical gear changes and sharp cable turns will not work here :)
Same here. Cables through the headset is a bad design trend that needs to go away. It has no real benefits, is annoying to service and can lead to problems.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: spcycle on September 14, 2024, 12:58:55 AM
The M868 rear triangle has passed testing. Mass production will begin next week.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: federic000 on September 16, 2024, 08:33:07 AM
better to test carefully this time, i would do it twice  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: fabus80 on September 16, 2024, 03:07:39 PM
Was there a problem with spcycle previously?
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: spcycle on September 19, 2024, 03:53:02 AM
The right one is the new carbon rocker arm.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: Engikris on September 19, 2024, 11:16:05 AM
Was there a problem with spcycle previously?
There are several posts of peeps reporting broken suspension arm as well as cracked frames if you google the keywords.
They are claiming to adress those issues with the M868 launch, but since there are also several posts in this forum about other SPcycle frame quality issues, i'm probably going to either skip buying it or wait until others confirming that quality issues have really been solved.
The second problem with them - according to few posts also in this forum, is not honoring their warranty. A couple of buyers left with a broken frame and no replacement in sight.
Either way, SPcycle not doing too good lately with all this bad publishity.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: Vortac on September 20, 2024, 12:59:36 PM
better to test carefully this time, i would do it twice  ;) ;)

Did SP-Cycle replace your broken frame?  It's been a few months...
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: Vortac on September 20, 2024, 01:07:13 PM
In theory it is possible to drill holes in the head tube or down tube of the frame to achieve semi-integrated cables. I will confirm this with our engineers.

Didnt you guys already have two versions of the M861, one with fully internal cables (through headset) and the other one with "partially" internal routing, where the cables would not go through the headset, but traditionally through holes on the frame?  Why wouldnt that apply to this frame, if all thats different is the rocker and rear triangle?

Also does this mean that current M861 frames sold come only with the aluminum rocker arm, but the same old, 'weaker' rear triangle, in order to avoid issues like what happened to federic000?

Thx.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: federic000 on September 20, 2024, 02:37:55 PM
Did SP-Cycle replace your broken frame?  It's been a few months...

Wasn't me, it's another federico I own a Carbonda 936 and so far really happy about it
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: Vortac on September 24, 2024, 09:16:50 AM
Just reached out to them.  New availability for this frame is October now, “expected”.

Debating on going for the M861 with their upgraded rocker arm but old rear triangle, wait for the M868 (prolly not ready till end of year more than likely), or just go with the Carbonda CFM1001 and get it over with…
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: spcycle on November 05, 2024, 12:39:14 AM
M868 has started mass production. We have listed it on AliExpress and spcycle official website.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: Specialf. on November 05, 2024, 01:47:54 AM
Sembra molto bello.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: d3xophen on December 04, 2024, 07:22:13 AM
I am interested in this frame. Are you also providing to sell with shock?
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: lukwy on December 04, 2024, 07:32:59 AM
Buy it while it's light. The more frames will break, the heavier it will become in the future.
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: federic000 on December 05, 2024, 02:31:36 PM
Buy it while it's light. The more frames will break, the heavier it will become in the future.

LoL this  is what happened to your and mine fm936, now it's given for 2150 grams in size M. Mine is 2030 grams, but I remember when it was marketed it was 1850 grams. Then some of them had cracks and now it's heavy like a fat duck  ;D
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: ilyamaksimov on December 06, 2024, 12:10:59 AM
LoL this  is what happened to your and mine fm936, now it's given for 2150 grams in size M. Mine is 2030 grams, but I remember when it was marketed it was 1850 grams. Then some of them had cracks and now it's heavy like a fat duck  ;D

haha, yes!))
Title: Re: Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame
Post by: ASt on December 13, 2024, 06:12:41 AM
I got a used fm936 M from the end of 2023 a week ago, weighs about 1950g