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Title: ICAN GRA04 Gravel Frame
Post by: ArchM87 on April 11, 2025, 03:51:22 AM
Hi guys,

I need some help. ICAN is not able to send my GRA04 Frame. I ordered it 3 month ago, and now I dont have any patience or trust, that ICAN will send me the frame. It was ordered with a simple 2 colored paintjob. I definetly

Now I need a similar Frame. I ordered it in size "M" - 53. Is there something like the GRA04 out there?

- lightweight
- storage space
- integrated cockpit
- UDH
- Tire size up to 50 mm
- similar geometry

best regards
Title: Re: Alternativ frame like ICAN GRA04
Post by: FullCarbonAlchemist on April 11, 2025, 04:01:52 AM
The Carbonda CFR707 doesn’t have a down tube storage compartment but fits your requirements otherwise. I’ve been happy with mine.

Personally I haven’t felt the need for more than a top tube bag and jersey pockets will carry but I don’t do long rides on my gravel bike very often; it’s just for quick casual rides out the door on days when I’m not riding MTB/DH.
Title: Re: Alternativ frame like ICAN GRA04
Post by: SillyMochi on April 11, 2025, 04:30:14 AM
Oh boy, another "ICANT"-story. Hope you at least get your money back in full?!

Might wanna look into the GV201/GR201 from Tideace, Tantan, or Longteng (all the same frame just different shops/manufacturers). There is a lot of info into this frame on the forum already if you wanna deep dive: https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4724.0.html

It's not the exact matching geometry but fulfills all your other needs. Depending on your size (and where that M from ICAN sits for you), you wanna go for a 54 or 56:
https://www.bike-stats.de/en/geometrie_vergleich?Bike1=ICAN_GRA04_2024_M&Bike2=Tideace_FM-GV201%20NOAH_2024_54

Tideace: https://tideacebike.com/products/fm-gv201-noah-carbon-gravel-bike-frame?variant=42818324562103
Tantan: http://tantancycling.com/index.php?_m=mod_product&_a=view&p_id=1139
Longteng: https://www.ltbikes.com/index/products/view/id/411.html
Title: Re: Alternativ frame like ICAN GRA04
Post by: apphex on April 11, 2025, 04:42:13 AM
Aside from the storage, the Carbonda CFR707 is practically identical to the GRA04 frame.
Title: Re: Alternativ frame like ICAN GRA04
Post by: ArchM87 on April 15, 2025, 02:55:05 AM
Hi,

thank you for the recommendations. I think getting a little mad, also via facebook/instagram, helped. The frame is now finished with painting, and ready to be send out.
Title: Re: Alternativ frame like ICAN GRA04
Post by: ArchM87 on May 13, 2025, 08:02:56 AM
hi guys,

just some quick shots, from my first ride with the GRA04. I will share my experience later.
But as a short feddback:
The build went smooth, without any problems, and I´m pretty happy with the bike.

 
Title: Re: ICAN GRA04 Gravel Frame
Post by: SillyMochi on May 13, 2025, 04:16:56 PM
Looks clean. Glad you finally got to build and ride it!

BTW how do you like that bottle? Was just wondering whether they are any good and I should get two on order :D
Title: Re: ICAN GRA04 Gravel Frame
Post by: ArchM87 on May 14, 2025, 05:40:47 AM
Not that happy with the bottle. There are a lot of scratches on it, just from pull it and put it back from the cage 3-4 times.
Drinking from the bottle is ok. Nothing special or bad about drinking. They are cheap (3 for 8,-€), but I wouldnt buy them
again...
Title: Re: ICAN GRA04 Gravel Frame
Post by: pavlo.k on May 18, 2025, 02:59:22 AM
How did you manage to get this frame? I contacted Ican about it but they refused to sell it b2c
Title: Re: ICAN GRA04 Gravel Frame
Post by: ArchM87 on May 19, 2025, 03:01:16 AM
How did you manage to get this frame? I contacted Ican about it but they refused to sell it b2c

I just asked for it directly with "get a quote" at the homepage. I´ve done nothing special. From that point it was the normal process:
Choosing the size, color scheme, pay for the frame, and waiting far too long...
I asked for it in January. Maybe they stoped selling the frame to normal customers.
Title: Re: ICAN GRA04 Gravel Frame
Post by: ArchM87 on May 26, 2025, 04:03:33 AM
After the first rides, its time for a little feedback. You can find my buildlist in the attached picture.

The paint:
I´ve choosed a custom paintjob in dark green and matte black. The paint looks really good. I´ve found just one speck of dust below the paint. And they have done everything exactly like I told them.

The carbon quality:
Nothing bad to say. Everything looks well made and I found no loose carbon strings, holes or anything like that

The build:
Went really smooth. It was my first build, so I´ve done some mistakes, wich took some time. But beside that, everything was good, even for me as a newbe in bike builds.

Positives:
- The build is a blast to ride. It is so much fun, no matter wich underground. It feels safe and it feels fast
- The beginning process of communication with ICAN was fast, friendly and they have answered everything I asked them for

Negatives:
- The weight. It´s more heavy than expected and more than they say on the website. After my feedback, they changed the weight on the website from 1050 to 1100. So they accept criticism, thats positive.
- The production and delivery time and the communication with ICAN in the later process. 3.5 month from payment to delivery is way to long. And they lied multiple times about the estimated delivery time.
- The downtube storrage. Its just a hole in the downtube. If you put something in there, it will fall down to the bottom bracket. No bag or anything. I will print a solution for that, but its really disapointing, that you cant use the storrage from the start and you have to build something on your own.

So I´m happy with the build and, mostly, happy with the frame. But I'm not happy with ICAN. And for my next build I will go for another brand.
Title: Re: ICAN GRA04 Gravel Frame
Post by: SillyMochi on May 26, 2025, 05:13:29 AM
Glad you enjoy the bike! Regarding weight: did you weigh the full bike at the end or just tally up the individual measurements? 8.4kg for a ready to ride gravel bike isn't that after all.
Title: Re: ICAN GRA04 Gravel Frame
Post by: ArchM87 on May 26, 2025, 01:31:30 PM
I did weight it, really quick. With tubeless milk, a toptube bag and a little dirt,  its 8563.  But just with a cheap luggage scale. So there is a little +/-.