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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: cassandracomplx on June 16, 2015, 12:13:09 AM

Title: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: cassandracomplx on June 16, 2015, 12:13:09 AM
Welcome! Do you have some pictures or more details about your bike?

here's my Build list:
(http://s11.postimg.org/5aurjowv7/Buildlist_C2_M.jpg)
 oops, I have forgotten the pedals  8) : Shimano XTR PDM9000

...and some Iphone Pictures
(http://s30.postimg.org/wbe5zzagh/C2_M_4.jpg)

(http://s14.postimg.org/w0lpbs4ld/C2_M_7.jpg)
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: RS VR6 on June 16, 2015, 03:18:25 AM
Great looking bike!

Thats some mad saddle to bar drop! ;D
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: cassandracomplx on June 16, 2015, 03:53:04 AM
Great looking bike!

Thanks  :)

Thats some mad saddle to bar drop! ;D

I know - the bike was not made for cruisin' around...  ;)

 
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: carbonazza on June 16, 2015, 04:08:29 PM
Great looking bike!

Thats some mad saddle to bar drop! ;D

It was my first impression too!
You see that bike next to you on a race start(seat height, 36T, rigid fork... ), and you know this one won't be easy :)
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: cassandracomplx on June 17, 2015, 12:10:01 AM
You see that bike next to you on a race start(seat height, 36T, rigid fork... ), and you know this one won't be easy :)

...then you take a look at the rider and you see that he is almost 50years old - so it will be easy... ::)

I really like that riding position.
In the early 90s, I had more saddle to bar drop:
only 9-10cm head tube, short fork length (and a veeeery long 140mm Syncros Stem… ;D)

Cheers
Sascha
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: Sjon7283 on June 18, 2015, 03:22:56 PM
Great bike! I have been looking at their forks before,  very Nice! Do you HEvD the specs of the fork?
What BB are you riding? Is the 36t an easy fit?
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: carbonazza on June 18, 2015, 03:34:29 PM
...then you take a look at the rider and you see that he is almost 50years old - so it will be easy... ::)
Well, I'm not that far for the age, and ride with a 30T.
So my impressions would probably stay, even when seeing the old man on the bike :)
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: cassandracomplx on June 20, 2015, 12:13:30 AM
Do you HEvD the specs of the fork?
What BB are you riding? Is the 36t an easy fit?

sorry, I don't have any specs of the fork.
I only know:
Fork length 470mm
Postmount (at least 180mm rotors)
15mm axle
Sören, CEO of Vpace, sent me pictures of his own bike with this fork and I was in love immediately  ;D
I'm sure, he will update the website with all specs soon...

the 36T was an easy fit. the frame has a 92mm pressfit bottom bracket and I have mounted the sram/truvativ GXP bottom bracket without any spacers.

 I will take some pictures (fork and BB) and post them on monday...
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: cassandracomplx on June 22, 2015, 12:14:26 AM
I will take some pictures (fork and BB) and post them on monday...

Good Morning from germany  ;D,

here are the promised pictures:

Fork...
(http://s7.postimg.org/gd7kcszez/C2_M_2.jpg)
(http://s9.postimg.org/jbsu1k7of/C2_M_10.jpg)
(http://s23.postimg.org/3zppvvdbv/C2_M_11.jpg)
(http://s2.postimg.org/5mzzlmkbt/C2_M_12.jpg)

...and Bottom Bracket
(http://s22.postimg.org/y6w16sso1/C2_M_13.jpg)
92mm bottom bracket and mounted bearings without any spacers.

(http://s3.postimg.org/vx08k6oqr/DSC_0200.jpg)
enough space for the 36T
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: Sjon7283 on June 22, 2015, 12:58:06 PM
Nice pics! I think there is a difference between the BSA and the PF bottom brackets in clearance from the frame. I have a 256sl with 34t xx1 chainring and there is about 2 mm left before touching the frame, so no way a 36t chainring wil fit.

Do you know the weight of the fork? Very Nice fork!
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: d34n on June 22, 2015, 05:50:25 PM
Ya, that fork is sexy. Macht mich geil. Wonder what the closest clone from a chiner vendor is.
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: d34n on June 23, 2015, 11:59:29 PM
Did you get your raceking race sports to go tubeless? And I think I found the "chiner" version of your fork.. from this vendor picture 2.. he sent me 2 geo's of 2 different forks and one of them was the copy of your fork i'm 80% sure ..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Carbon-UD-Matt-29er-MTB-Fork-for-Mountain-Bikes-Fork-Taper-with-axle-15mm-/251989298986?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aabbb8f2a
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: cassandracomplx on June 24, 2015, 12:45:14 AM
Did you get your raceking race sports to go tubeless?

...I didn't try.
It must be very difficult to seal the Conti tires >:(
Maybe I switch to Michelin 26" latex tubes...
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: Sjon7283 on June 24, 2015, 11:28:36 AM
Did you get your raceking race sports to go tubeless? And I think I found the "chiner" version of your fork.. from this vendor picture 2.. he sent me 2 geo's of 2 different forks and one of them was the copy of your fork i'm 80% sure ..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Carbon-UD-Matt-29er-MTB-Fork-for-Mountain-Bikes-Fork-Taper-with-axle-15mm-/251989298986?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aabbb8f2a

Yep looks like the same fork! What's the vpace price.
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: d34n on June 24, 2015, 01:05:16 PM
I got told by the vendor that that fork is actually a 27.5 fork.. They are only 7mm different in height... Crazy.
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: Carbon_Dude on June 24, 2015, 07:04:09 PM
Did you get your raceking race sports to go tubeless?

...I didn't try.
It must be very difficult to seal the Conti tires >:(
Maybe I switch to Michelin 26" latex tubes...

My Continental X-kings were easy enough.
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: cmh on June 24, 2015, 08:42:04 PM
I really like that riding position.
In the early 90s, I had more saddle to bar drop:
only 9-10cm head tube, short fork length (and a veeeery long 140mm Syncros Stem… ;D)

That bike looks haaawt! :D

I got a chance to demo a Specialized Epic World Cup recently with a very similar setup. XL frame with the saddle way up, and the stem slammed and inverted to get lower. Looked almost like Jaroslav Kulhavy rides, and I thought it'd be pretty freaky, but I actually REALLY liked it. Felt great, loved the position, and I went *fast* - like faster than I'd gone before on trails I knew well. Probably wouldn't be great on longer rides or technical terrain, but I didn't care. Would have one now if it weren't for the shocking $10k price tag!

Kicking around the idea of trying to duplicate that position on an 036 FS 29er frame.
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: cmh on June 24, 2015, 08:49:58 PM
It must be very difficult to seal the Conti tires >:(
Maybe I switch to Michelin 26" latex tubes...

Conti RaceSport tires can be tough to run tubeless - I've run the RaceSports, and their sidewalls are as thin as paper. The previous SuperSport versions were even worse, I'd sometimes need double the sealant to get them to seal up the first time, and they usually wouldn't seal until they were ridden. Setting them up the first time, you'd see little dots of sealant forming all over the sidewall! The RaceSport isn't quite as bad as the old SuperSports, but still can be a challenge. The "standard" Conti tires, or the ProTection - I've found those much easier to set up tubeless because of the thicker sidewalls.

With the RaceKing RaceSports and ZTR Crests, I'd say there's no reason you can't run tubeless, it's just going to take some doing. Start with a double dose of Stan's sealant (two scoops or two of the small bottles) and give it at least a ride or two before they seal up fully. You'll want to bring a pump with you on the first ride, at the very least. Once it does set up, though - those things can be sublime. Those super thin sidewalls and no tubes means one of the most crazy supple MTB tires I've ever ridden.
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: RS VR6 on June 24, 2015, 09:08:01 PM
I really like that riding position.
In the early 90s, I had more saddle to bar drop:
only 9-10cm head tube, short fork length (and a veeeery long 140mm Syncros Stem… ;D)

That bike looks haaawt! :D

I got a chance to demo a Specialized Epic World Cup recently with a very similar setup. XL frame with the saddle way up, and the stem slammed and inverted to get lower. Looked almost like Jaroslav Kulhavy rides, and I thought it'd be pretty freaky, but I actually REALLY liked it. Felt great, loved the position, and I went *fast* - like faster than I'd gone before on trails I knew well. Probably wouldn't be great on longer rides or technical terrain, but I didn't care. Would have one now if it weren't for the shocking $10k price tag!

Kicking around the idea of trying to duplicate that position on an 036 FS 29er frame.

I would give the low bar a shot. You'll be surprised at how much better the bike will feel when cornering. You can get low and really drive the front wheel into the ground. Just be careful on those steep sections on the first few rides.  ;)

Think most people ride with their bar too high. ;D

I don't how many spacers you have under your stem now...but try removing 5mm every couple rides...till you reach your "limit".
Title: Re: VPACE C2M build by cassandracomplx
Post by: cmh on June 24, 2015, 09:39:21 PM
Kicking around the idea of trying to duplicate that position on an 036 FS 29er frame.

I would give the low bar a shot. You'll be surprised at how much better the bike will feel when cornering. You can get low and really drive the front wheel into the ground. Just be careful on those steep sections on the first few rides.  ;)

Think most people ride with their bar too high. ;D

I don't how many spacers you have under your stem now...but try removing 5mm every couple rides...till you reach your "limit".

I've got quite a bit of spacers under the stem on my current setup. Thing is, this bike is a large, and I realized the low setup seemed to work really well with the XL frame. Still, I'm planning on doing exactly what you're suggesting, and maybe swapping the 100mm stem for a 110 or a 120, both of which I have on hand already.

Plus - this is a Rumblefish - a trail bike - unsure how the racer-low setup will match with it.