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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: pearl on January 04, 2018, 01:47:05 PM

Title: WCB-M-145 info?
Post by: pearl on January 04, 2018, 01:47:05 PM
http://www.workswellbikes.com/PRODDUCT/MTB/Trail/20170809/153.html

I randomly find myself looking on the main carbon frame supplier pages; how new is this? I did some research but couldn't find anything. Anyone know what this is a copy of? With the bb92, it looks like a specialized? The geo looks like a Scalpel.
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Post by: RS VR6 on January 11, 2018, 11:00:23 PM
I'm interested in this as well.
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Post by: RS VR6 on January 12, 2018, 03:10:56 PM
I sent them an email and they told me that they don't even have a mold. It won't be ready until next month.
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Post by: lRaphl on February 06, 2018, 08:29:59 AM
Let us know whenever you have some news about this one!
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Post by: Silverado123 on February 17, 2018, 09:13:00 PM
Thats a rad frame! Definitely one to keep an eye on.
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Post by: samroy92 on March 21, 2018, 02:49:31 PM
WCB-M-145(29ER)
 
Anyone have the weight numbers?

Material: full carbon fiber
Weave: UD
Include:Frame
Headset size:top 1-1/8 down 1-1/2
Seatpost:31.6mm
BB:BB92
Size:15.5/17.5/19/21
Rear shock size:38*165mm
Brake Type: Disc Brake (rear 160mm /180mm rotor)
Single front chagrining setup with no front derailleur
Front travel:100mm
Rear travel:100mm
Rear Hanger:142*12mm or 148*12mm
Max Tire:29*2.3"
Cables routing: All internal
Test: CEN SGS
Warranty: 2 years

(http://www.workswellbikes.com/uploads/allimg/170809/1-1FP9162123234.jpg)
Title: Re: WCB-M-145 info?
Post by: samroy92 on April 19, 2018, 01:32:05 PM
Got an email today from workswell about this frame, looks like they will start shipping in the next month or so:

"Pls checking the price of the WCB-M-145 frame as below:
The EXW price of WCB-M-145 UD matt/glossy is $630/set (Include: Frame)
Match headset is $10/set, thru axle=$12/pcs
The shipping charge to Canada by EMS is $100 /set
 
Dear, WCB-M-145 Frame size 17.5’’ will available in next two weeks , in May. Other size will available in June."

I asked for pictures and specs/weight, etc.
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Post by: samroy92 on April 20, 2018, 11:00:45 AM
They are going to have pictures and weight numbers in about 2 weeks, stay tuned!
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Post by: samroy92 on May 22, 2018, 10:05:43 AM
Got an email this morning from Workswell:

Dear Sam,
Have a wonderful day!
Here is Stephie from workswellbikes company.
I' d like to share you with our Full Suspension Carbon MTB Frames:
WCB-M-145(29ER): http://www.workswellbikes.com/PRODDUCT/MTB/Trail/20170809/153.html


And it's available on alibaba: https://workswellbikes.en.alibaba.com/product/60759616288-806620916/2018_newest_design_29er_suspension_mtb_frame_Max_Tire_29_2_3_All_internal_Cables_routing.html?spm=a2700.8304367.prewdfa4cf.5.1ff7318b16r9YW (https://workswellbikes.en.alibaba.com/product/60759616288-806620916/2018_newest_design_29er_suspension_mtb_frame_Max_Tire_29_2_3_All_internal_Cables_routing.html?spm=a2700.8304367.prewdfa4cf.5.1ff7318b16r9YW)

But no pictures yet, or weight numbers. I replied to ask.
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Post by: lRaphl on May 22, 2018, 12:34:10 PM
Keep the information comming! :)
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Post by: samroy92 on May 23, 2018, 09:21:17 AM
This is all I have right now, but should be more info in the next 1-2weeks. I am planning on building an FS within the next month or two, depending on how they reply I may or may not go with this frame. Latest reply:

"
Dear, the frames are making in matte in the painting factory, will have more pictures and weight in next week. Will send for you check in next week.
 
Price of WCB-M-145 UD matt/glossy is $630/set (Include: Frame)
Match headset is $10/set, thru axle=$12/pcs
The shipping charge to Canada by EMS is $100 /set
 
Any questions, pls ask freely.
 
Best regards!
Stephie

"
Title: Re: WCB-M-145 info?
Post by: adroitrider on May 23, 2018, 11:17:51 AM
I got a lead time of 1.5 months for the XL, I have asked for more pictures.

From the drawing, is there a pivot at the chain/seat stay? What is that round hole in the drawing for? Seems outdated if it is a pivot.

The no pivot at the rear chain/seat stay reminds me of a Gary Fisher Sugar Race, the Ronald McDonald red and yellow version. I loved that bike and could fly on it!
Title: Re: WCB-M-145 info?
Post by: samroy92 on May 23, 2018, 11:52:13 AM
I got a lead time of 1.5 months for the XL, I have asked for more pictures.

From the drawing, is there a pivot at the chain/seat stay? What is that round hole in the drawing for? Seems outdated if it is a pivot.

The no pivot at the rear chain/seat stay reminds me of a Gary Fisher Sugar Race, the Ronald McDonald red and yellow version. I loved that bike and could fly on it!

I think the pivot on the end of the chainstay is probably a good thing. If you go look at 2018 downhill+trail name brands a lot of them have this pivot. If you look at more XC namebrands, they don't. Examples: Specialized stuntjumper, Trek fuel, etc. have this pivot. Some of the really nice brands like Santa Cruz, Yeti have their own very specialized design to prevent bobbing and such from what I understand. Can anyone weigh in on my assessment? I want to make sure im not spreading false info.
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Post by: adroitrider on May 23, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
I guess so, the 68 HTA and 73.5 STA leans toward a more trail orientated geo. A pivot there could work.
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Post by: adroitrider on May 23, 2018, 02:39:31 PM
The Geo is closer to the Habit than it is the Scalpel.
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Post by: adroitrider on May 24, 2018, 10:57:55 AM
Got some pictures yesterday. Here is the rear pivot.


Took down the pics because they are outdated.

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Post by: samroy92 on May 24, 2018, 12:15:29 PM
Got some pictures yesterday. Here is the rear pivot.


Here is lower pivot:


I asked them about the hardware specifics, I hope they don't ship with this piece!

Yeah what the heck, that doesn't look right...
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Post by: samroy92 on May 24, 2018, 03:54:26 PM
Keep em' coming! I'm surprised they sent you the raw photos lol
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Post by: adroitrider on May 24, 2018, 07:59:19 PM
But why are they building this around 100mm travel. Maybe that is a typo and it is really 120mm?
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Post by: RS VR6 on May 25, 2018, 03:23:57 AM
The geo of the 145 is based off a 506 axle to crown.
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Post by: adroitrider on May 25, 2018, 08:45:00 AM
The geo of the 145 is based off a 506 axle to crown.

Nice, good catch. The 100mm is a typo.
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Post by: sclyde2 on May 25, 2018, 08:58:54 PM
If you're thinking the 100mm is a typo because of the 506mm a-c spec, I am thinking the opposite. AFAIK, 506mm suggests a 100mm travel fork
Title: Re: WCB-M-145 info?
Post by: samroy92 on May 26, 2018, 04:01:43 PM
I might order this next week, waiting for a reply.
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Post by: c0urt on July 03, 2018, 11:44:34 PM
they sent me pics of it when asked about a different frame

Title: Re: WCB-M-145 info?
Post by: samroy92 on July 04, 2018, 01:45:53 AM
they sent me pics of it when asked about a different frame

Sweet, thanks!!
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Post by: c0urt on July 04, 2018, 07:58:45 PM
was having posting issues yesterday
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Post by: Srmanuel on July 07, 2018, 09:41:04 AM
was having posting issues yesterday
did you irder it?
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Post by: NB87 on February 02, 2021, 02:20:57 PM
Is there not more info about this frame?
The geo seems decent. Double bottles is a plus. Anyone knows the weight of the frame?

This morning I got quoted about $900 for the frame + $215(!) for shipping.
I hope that's a typo. Especially since according to this thread the frame costed about 2/3 of that 3 years ago!